crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

C-L
The first & central issue for me is right-to-life. I will not v**e for anyone who is not pro-life. Everything else is just window dressing but I do agree with most of his policies.
Donald J. Trump has been the most pro-life president became an issue. It was never an issue before Roe vs Wade in 1973. The decision was written by Harry Blackmun, Pres. Richard Nixon's third choice for an open seat…


Tiptop789
Well there you go, you're saying you would v**e for Vladimir Putin or Kim Jung Un as long as they're.pro-life. Talk about one dimensional, that's a line. Like most that refuse to accept a woman's right to choose, you seem only to care about life until birth.


C-L
Well there you go again, distorting what I had to say. CNN might need more reporters.
I wrote it was the starting position.
Have pro-deathers ever thought that the fetus has some rights? Of course not.
Did the woman and man engage in the sex act voluntarily? That was their choice.
As far as your assertion that 'you (I assume you mean all pro-lifers) seem only to care about life until birth,' pro-lifers have been shown to give far more to charity than you liberals. When was the last time you gave anything?
Care to move on to the biology & medical science?



I have often found that just a side thought often leads to a much larger point. Thus, I had the above exchange with another OPP member.
I posted the first item as a statement regarding an ongoing discussion on other than a******n. As a Catholic and a physician, I am opposed to a******n on medical, psychologic and ethical grounds.
Tiptop789 then made his (hers?), the second post. Notice, he (she?) says I would support Putin or Kim when I nowhere mentioned them. It is a conclusion that my posting justifies only in the fevered minds of deluded pro-deathers.
Further, he (she?) states that pro-lifers only ‘care about life until birth,’ a statement that is contrary to the evidence but not really immediately relevant to the issue. The problem is that this is precisely what the left does. Opinions are disseminated as fact and no liberals nor the media call them on it. Completely unwarranted conclusions are permitted & even encouraged. It shows what we’re up against.

EmilyD

If a lefty cannot find a meaningful response to an expressed opinion, they revert to two things: (1) They spin the conversation off to a bunny trail ("...you would v**e for Vladimir Putin or Kim Jung Un"), hoping no one will go back to the issue they can't respond to; and (2) They personally insult the person they are responding to ("you seem only to care about life until birth")...I guess hoping they will be so insulted they will just go away and stop discussing the topic.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Thank you.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Why is it O.K. With lefties who state they would never v**e for a pro life person, but when we state the opposite the debate goes out the window?

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

You said "I will not v**e for anyone that's not pro-life". Therefore when forced to choose between a liberal & the devil, you choose the devil (or you don't v**e). You have a right to choose but deny that to others. You want to decide for others (and the unborn), but you don't want women to make that choice? That's your choice, not mine. You don't want an a******n, don't get one.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

Jimbo, my point is that I'm more than one dimensional. To claim I'll never v**e for a pro-life candidate is ludicrous. There's more issues of greater importance than a******n.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You don't want an AR-15, don't get one.

DASHY

Pro Life v. Pro Death discussions are beside the point when discussing the legal medical treatment of ending a pregnancy. Row v. Wade decision got it right when it ruled the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose to have an a******n without excessive government restrictions. She has a "right to privacy." The good v. evil discussion needs a new topic. We are reminded of Jesus' statement: "He who is without sin can cast the first stone."

archie bunker Loc: Texas

So, you retain your right to have your baby k**led with a pair of forceps, but you don't want me to have a gun in my safe because it might k**l your baby??

DASHY

I have no plan to k**l anybody and you are doing the right thing by keeping your gun locked in your safe.

EmilyD

To put Jesus into a discussion about whether a******n is right or wrong is so typical of a l*****t. The first thing Jesus would tell you is that it is wrong. Without question. Period.

There are many ways a pregnancy can be avoided now that weren't available when Roe v. Wade was decided almost 50 years ago in 1973. The argument that a******n is a privacy issue and protects a woman's liberty to choose only concerns that woman who becomes pregnant. It does not involve the father of the baby or the baby itself that is murdered!

The baby should not pay the ultimate price for the woman's "mistake" or "bad decision" or wh**ever other excuse she wants to use....it is NOT the baby's fault that the woman is irresponsible.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

There is no issue greater than that of life & death. For you to maintain the fetus is not lie is to display an appalling ignorance of biology. Even Naomi Wolfe, a woman committed to legal a******n admits it is life.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

I can always fund someone who is pro-life and write in his or her name if necessary.

A woman and a man chose to enter into a relationship where a pregnancy was a likely possibility. The institution of marriage protects the woman from the man walking away from it.

"You don't want an a******n, don't get one", makes no sense. There's a living fetus involved.

As I wrote, let's discuss the science & biology. You liberals claim to be pro-science. Let's debate the medical science.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Pro Life v. Pro Death are NOT beside the point; they are essential to whether Roe Vs. Wade was valid. The decision appalled even some pro-a******n constitutional scholars. The question is does the fetus have any rights. I believe it does.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I notice all you self righteous loons that come up with an excuse for a******n have already been born.