ChJoe

A division of the American Library Association v**ed unanimously Saturday to strip Laura Ingalls Wilder's name from a major children's literature award over concerns about how the author referred to Native Americans and b****s.


http://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623184440/little-house-on-the-controversy-laura-ingalls-wilders-name-removed-from-book-awa

The Ms.

I am pretty sure that she does not care..... the issue with wanting man made recognition..... they give and take away..... nothing of real value.... just a thought....

ChJoe

Her being dead, she probably doesn't give a rat's butt. However, the nonsense of judging yesterday by today's "standards" is getting old.

American Vet

Just more l*****t nonsense.

The Ms.

Yes, does not matter when you are dead.... so why do so many sell their souls for money and recognition? Maybe current insanity will wake up some people..... keep your awards. My take “ not good enough to judge me”. Take your awards and shove them..... just a thought z

Larry Joe

ChJoe, I agree completely. People should be held to the standards of their own time and not to the standards of another era. Society is based on the pillars of its history, both good and bad. Tear down a society’s history, and you destroy that society.
Larry Joe

ChJoe

True! And then what do we end up with?

American Vet

1984

The Ministry of T***h is involved with news media, entertainment, the fine arts and educational books. Its purpose is to rewrite history to change the facts to fit Party doctrine for propaganda effect.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

So?

ChJoe

So? Let's see now, because it's stupid! You think we should delete from our past things that by today's holy standards are not fit for view?

What is your favorite book ipn? What is your favorite anything, fiction or non-fiction? What part of the past do you want to hide, never again to be studied or learned from? What is your favorite food? What is your favorite activity?

None of it will stand up to this BS. So lets see, tell us what you dig to read, music you like to listen to?

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Not that cut and dried.

That assumes that there is only one standard in any era. For example....Thomas Jefferson knew that s***ery was a stain on the US....

"But it is impossible to be temperate and to pursue this subject through the various considerations of policy, of morals, of history natural and civil. We must be contented to hope they will force their way into every one's mind. I think a change already perceptible, since the origin of the present revolution. The spirit of the master is abating, that of the s***e rising from the dust, his condition mollifying, the way I hope preparing, under the auspices of heaven, for a total emancipation, and that this is disposed, in the order of events, to be with the consent of the masters, rather than by their extirpation."

So even though the 'standards of the time' may have accepted s***ery, many folks knew that it was also wrong.
I'll leave you with a quote from Frederick Douglas:
"The white man’s happiness cannot be purchased by the black man’s misery."
Depends on who one asks in any time period what standards are acceptable. Abolitionists knew that sin was wrong....at the same time the 'standard' was accepted by many.

ChJoe

No, you l*****ts won't leave it at that. You start projecting into words and phrases which were acceptable without any r****t meaning what so ever taking your foolishness to the nth degree. The reality is, almost every single person on the globe back there were and most still are r****ts. It was the norm, no matter how unacceptable it is now. You might as well abolish the constitution because it was accepting of s***ery when it was written. Lincoln himself believes the black race was a lesser race. Do we return to s***ery because his proclamation freeing the s***es was done as a r****t man?? Do we undo all the work of all r****ts that have ever lived?

History is the history. Learn from it or be doomed to repeat it. But what ever we do, don't erase it.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Not sure what your post has to do with mine.
I answered a specific post about judging people by the standards of the time by pointing out that it is not that simple: that folks at the same time knew the 'standard' was incorrect, wrong. That is true of any era in history, including this one. Discussing historical complexity has nothing to do with abolishing the constitution or whether Lincoln believed that one group of Americans was inferior.

A statement like this:
"Do we return to s***ery because his proclamation freeing the s***es was done as a r****t man??" should give you pause to consider that you are oversimplifying a complex issue. We should learn from history. It's just not as simple as either/or.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

His favorite spewing BS.

American Vet

Learn - yes.

Eradicate/rewrite (as the l*****t are trying to do) No.