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Almost half of Republicans would join Trump party: poll
Feb 23, 2021 20:25:22   #
rumitoid
 
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll

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Feb 23, 2021 21:58:16   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon ... (show quote)


Ive got the perfect name for the trump party.
We call it the Skunk Party. Because everywhere they go they stink everything up.
Dems new logo could be Rats.
So, the skunks and the rats.
Dump the elephant and Donkey show.

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Feb 23, 2021 22:07:29   #
rumitoid
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Ive got the perfect name for the trump party.
We call it the Skunk Party. Because everywhere they go they stink everything up.
Dems new logo could be Rats.
So, the skunks and the rats.
Dump the elephant and Donkey show.


Haha.

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Feb 23, 2021 22:32:12   #
jdw57 Loc: Almost Heaven
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon ... (show quote)


Sounds good to me!

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Feb 23, 2021 22:42:20   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
I cannot contain my critique to but one party.

The Constitution that Washington helped draft in 1787, the Constitution our government still operates under today, makes no mention of political parties, and it clearly did not anticipate them. As originally ratified, the United States Constitution declared that the winner of second-place in the p**********l e******n would serve as vice president.

IMHO, the percentage of traditionally Republican v****g, conservative U.S. citizens who are rightfully more than anxious to scuttle the Republican party and those who control it, as it exists and functions today, should be much higher than 46 percent.

How about 98%?

George Washington's family had fled England precisely to avoid the civil wars there, while Alexander Hamilton once called political parties "the most fatal disease" of popular governments.

The problem can be summed up very briefly: Many people become more loyal to their party than to their country.

Again, IMHO, there is nothing left in the current leadership of the Republican party to which one should bear allegiance, and personally, I no longer consider the Democrat party an American enterprise.

In George Washington’s farewell address, he warned his fellow Americans against the poisonous influence of political parties. Today, his words are prophetic:

"Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally r**t and i**********n. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions."

Now, nearly 224 years after this address was given, each part of that warning has come to pass.

Lawmakers are distracted by their party loyalties. Candidate incumbents spend more time fundraising and mudslinging, than in time passing legislation that will benefit all of their constituents (not just their own party).

Instead of occupying themselves during hearings by actually listening to witnesses and learning the facts, they play to the camera, to exalt themselves and their party, hoping to get the perfect soundbite, while simultaneously attempting to silence any information that may be a threat to their agenda. They subtly or blatantly indicate that the other side is a danger to our representative Republic.

Social media groups, Tech platforms, News networks, Blogs, articles and speeches declare that the Democrats, or the Republicans (erroneously more commonly accused than Democrats) want to do one thing or another that will lead to the demise of America.

Fear tactics, violent r**ts and even terrorist tactics are now being promoted to ensure party loyalty and ree******n (again 1,000 to 1 by Democrats, more than by Republicans). Some citizens have launched verbal or even physical attacks toward their own neighbors, for displaying loyalty to the opposing side.

Bots originating in other countries have flung the door wide open to foreign influence, as they meddle with our e******ns by using social media accounts to spread false information.

During this past U.S. P**********l year, local, state and national Republican leaders have, to a large extent, still vocalized their "traditional" values, but have then folded eagerly, like cheap suits, when faced with any opposition at all, or even stared at reprovingly.

They have earned neither respect or support.


rumitoid wrote:
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon ... (show quote)

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Feb 23, 2021 23:04:45   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon ... (show quote)


I'm sure true repubs and certainly true conservatives would rejoice if they did.

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Feb 23, 2021 23:44:25   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
By whose pure, unadulterated definition of "true" republicans and/or of "pure" conservatives?


lpnmajor wrote:
I'm sure true repubs and certainly true conservatives would rejoice if they did.

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Feb 24, 2021 05:28:27   #
PJT
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon ... (show quote)


Its sad to watch the GOP in a suicide mode.
As much as I supported Trump, I fear a cult leader leading the party...or destroying it.
Ego maniacs are the ultimate danger to freedom. One man leadership is a set-back for freedom. Just reference Germany or Russia or Uganda or Cambodia or China.

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Feb 24, 2021 12:37:41   #
rumitoid
 
Zemirah wrote:
I cannot contain my critique to but one party.

The Constitution that Washington helped draft in 1787, the Constitution our government still operates under today, makes no mention of political parties, and it clearly did not anticipate them. As originally ratified, the United States Constitution declared that the winner of second-place in the p**********l e******n would serve as vice president.

IMHO, the percentage of traditionally Republican v****g, conservative U.S. citizens who are rightfully more than anxious to scuttle the Republican party and those who control it, as it exists and functions today, should be much higher than 46 percent.

How about 98%?

George Washington's family had fled England precisely to avoid the civil wars there, while Alexander Hamilton once called political parties "the most fatal disease" of popular governments.

The problem can be summed up very briefly: Many people become more loyal to their party than to their country.

Again, IMHO, there is nothing left in the current leadership of the Republican party to which one should bear allegiance, and personally, I no longer consider the Democrat party an American enterprise.

In George Washington’s farewell address, he warned his fellow Americans against the poisonous influence of political parties. Today, his words are prophetic:

"Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally r**t and i**********n. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions."

Now, nearly 224 years after this address was given, each part of that warning has come to pass.

Lawmakers are distracted by their party loyalties. Candidate incumbents spend more time fundraising and mudslinging, than in time passing legislation that will benefit all of their constituents (not just their own party).

Instead of occupying themselves during hearings by actually listening to witnesses and learning the facts, they play to the camera, to exalt themselves and their party, hoping to get the perfect soundbite, while simultaneously attempting to silence any information that may be a threat to their agenda. They subtly or blatantly indicate that the other side is a danger to our representative Republic.

Social media groups, Tech platforms, News networks, Blogs, articles and speeches declare that the Democrats, or the Republicans (erroneously more commonly accused than Democrats) want to do one thing or another that will lead to the demise of America.

Fear tactics, violent r**ts and even terrorist tactics are now being promoted to ensure party loyalty and ree******n (again 1,000 to 1 by Democrats, more than by Republicans). Some citizens have launched verbal or even physical attacks toward their own neighbors, for displaying loyalty to the opposing side.

Bots originating in other countries have flung the door wide open to foreign influence, as they meddle with our e******ns by using social media accounts to spread false information.

During this past U.S. P**********l year, local, state and national Republican leaders have, to a large extent, still vocalized their "traditional" values, but have then folded eagerly, like cheap suits, when faced with any opposition at all, or even stared at reprovingly.

They have earned neither respect or support.
I cannot contain my critique to but one party. br ... (show quote)


Wow! Brilliant. Best ever dissertation on political parties in America. Your critique should be the focal point in any of our History classes. Well done.

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Feb 24, 2021 12:38:51   #
rumitoid
 
PJT wrote:
Its sad to watch the GOP in a suicide mode.
As much as I supported Trump, I fear a cult leader leading the party...or destroying it.
Ego maniacs are the ultimate danger to freedom. One man leadership is a set-back for freedom. Just reference Germany or Russia or Uganda or Cambodia or China.


Great insight, thank you.

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Feb 24, 2021 12:39:18   #
kemmer
 
rumitoid wrote:
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon the party as it is currently structured and join a new party if former President Trump was its leader, according to a new poll released Sunday.

A Suffolk University-USA Today poll found that 46 percent of Republicans said they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. Only 27 percent said they would stay with the GOP, with the remainder indicating they would be undecided.

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," a Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee told the newspaper. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."
Trump has not indicated the details of his political future. But after his acquittal in his second impeachment trial, Trump issued a scathing rebuke of Republican leadership, specifically Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.)

McConnell did not v**e to convict Trump, citing the unconstitutionality of convicting a president who no longer holds office. But after the Senate's acquittal v**e, McConnell said Trump was "morally" responsible for the J*** 6 r**t of his supporters at the Capitol and alluded to potential criminal prosecution of the former president for alleged crimes he may have committed in office.

"He didn't get away with anything yet," McConnell said on the Senate floor at the time.

"Mitch is a dour, sullen, and unsmiling political hack, and if Republican Senators are going to stay with him, they will not win again," Trump said in response to McConnell's remarks. "He will never do what needs to be done, or what is right for our Country. Where necessary and appropriate, I will back primary rivals who espouse Making America Great Again and our policy of America First. We want brilliant, strong, thoughtful, and compassionate leadership."

Trump's top advisers have said they are focused on helping elect conservatives to Congress.

“Our goal is to win back the House and Senate,” Jason Miller, a senior adviser to Trump, told The Hill this week. “We’ll be looking at open seats, Democratic-held seats, and maybe there are places where we look for upgrades and more MAGA-friendly voices. I have no idea why McConnell decided to lash out at the president this way, but when you do, you can expect to get hit back.”

The Suffolk University-USA Today poll was taken among 1,000 Trump v**ers, identified from 2020 polls, between Feb. 15 and Feb. 19. It has a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
https://thehill.com/homenews/politics-101/539779-almost-half-of-republicans-would-join-trump-party-poll
Nearly half of Republicans say they would abandon ... (show quote)

Fine. There’s the door and good riddance.

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Feb 24, 2021 13:23:17   #
PJT
 
Rumitoid...Well that half needs reeducation. As do most Democrats. The mass media is perhaps beyond hope or salvation.
I don't mean re-doctrination, just re-education.

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Feb 25, 2021 01:24:01   #
WEBCO
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I'm sure true repubs and certainly true conservatives would rejoice if they did.


I, for one, would welcome a political party that brought back traditional conservative values.

Limited government, self reliance and responsibility, a free market economy, and a government that actually puts the well being of its citizens first.

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Feb 25, 2021 08:13:15   #
PJT
 
I agree But my re-education of Republicans and Conservatives means 're-education of values, morals and patriotism
It means on c*******m inc Russian and Red Chinese varieties.

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