Are you Religious or Spiritual?? (Page 9): He is and, that was a bit of eloquence yourself lijo. Do you paint too? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:...

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

lindajoy wrote:

How beautiful the picture is...God is indescribable until we see his beauty, reminding us, he is ever present in all things...

He is and, that was a bit of eloquence yourself lijo. Do you paint too?

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She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia

RockKnutne wrote:

I love that She Wolf, thank you for sharing that, can I copy that for my "best of the best" file? Can you stop me if the answer is no? :XD: :XD: :XD:

My grandmother was Irish and, she had things to live by on her walls too. What more can be said about the Irish... ?

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Of course you may copy that. Make my German Grandmama proud. I would like to copy yours as well. The Irish have the best blessings anywhere.

I think by having things to live by on our walls, we are reminded of what we should be.

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

She Wolf wrote:

Of course you may copy that. Make my German Grandmama proud. I would like to copy yours as well. The Irish have the best blessings anywhere.

I think by having things to live by on our walls, we are reminded of what we should be.

Well put and, God bless you dear lady! Irish eyes are smiling here.

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rumitoid

lindajoy wrote:

Admittedly I had to look it up because I was not familiar with the term, but suggest from what I did read it is inaccurate...Scriptures are just that and lay the foundation of knowledge before us, which taken literally, hold God's word..But Gods word is then passed through mans conception of what was meant......Thus the varying "stories of certain events"as relayed by the author at the time and our quest to define them.

Gods word is absolute..Mans interpretation, not~~

Also it says in Romans1:19-20 that God's character and presence is plainly seen in nature, so humankind can have no excuse. There are many ways to see and know God not found in the Bible.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

RockKnutne wrote:

Eres sabio y divertido my friend, don't even wipe your face, you are fine just the way you are.

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Gracias mi amigo.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

RockKnutne wrote:

And, amen!

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Thank You, Rock~~~

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

RockKnutne wrote:

He is and, that was a bit of eloquence yourself lijo. Do you paint too?

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Not so much but I do make stained glass lamps and such~~ :mrgreen: Once again, I Thank You for your kind words..

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

rumitoid wrote:

Also it says in Romans1:19-20 that God's character and presence is plainly seen in nature, so humankind can have no excuse. There are many ways to see and know God not found in the Bible.

The Bible lays the foundation in and of God~~
Then we have witness of his Son he gave to us so we may be saved..
Then we have his rainbows~~his promise
We have his sunrise and sunsets filled with his majestic colors and hues so intoxicating we can not re-create..
We have his Moon and stars to guide us (to Him)
We have his Love, to full fill and sustain us
We have his hope, that we may better ourselves
We have his spirit so that we try...
And finally we have his Faith in knowing He is always with us and when we are most tired, it is He whom carries us..

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

lindajoy wrote:

The Bible lays the foundation in and of God~~ br T... (show quote)

Well thank you for that! I have to add two things to my "best of the best" file. That is my new OPP record.

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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Old_Gringo wrote:

Gracias mi amigo.

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lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

RockKnutne wrote:

Well thank you for that! I have to add two things to my "best of the best" file. That is my new OPP record.

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And Thank You~wow, honored in this great compliment, I am...

rumitoid

RockKnutne wrote:

Thanks for sharing that rumi. And, if it makes you happy, I will feel sorry for you... I'm just teasing you.

The duality of man, I heard about that. You never defined what "the rest" is exactly. How would I know if I share your view?

You need to grab focus here and, I'll be more than happy to debate wh**ever position you hold. It's Friday after all and, I always am feeling my oats on Friday.

Want me to save you a bowl?

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At my age, a bowl of oats is the perfect gift. Sorry I did not get back yesterday. Lately, two days in a row of OPP is too much to handle.

I have enjoyed reading your comments and you seem a fair, honest, decent, and intelligent man. Therefore, my question to you is: What are you doing here? Partially kidding on that point; there are a number of truly good people here, some of whom do not care for me very much any more. That hurts but I digress.

My "turn" in how I view Christianity came with getting sober. Their emphasis on a spirit of action over a system of belief and of getting a personal and wholly dependent relationship with God made what I previously knew of my Catholic faith to be wanting. During my first five years of sobriety, I thoroughly immersed myself in the study of other religions, primarily the Tao and Zen Buddhism, and of the Bible, which I was not directly familiar with but only excerpts found in the RCC missile.

Without ever losing faith in Christ since I was a young boy, I nonetheless started this study with the goal of tearing down Christianity as we know it today. Literally hours everyday during those years were spent in nitpicking every verse, reading many books of commentary, attending different churches and their Bible studies, and generally being absorbed (obsessed) with the downfall of the Church. All that determined effort eventually paid off, but it had the opposite effect: it give new life to my faith.

More will be forthcoming but I just wanted to touch base.

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

rumitoid wrote:

At my age, a bowl of oats is the perfect gift. Sor... (show quote)

Too easy a question you ask me. What am I doing here? I say, for the same reason you are, even though the way you said it made me spit my oats out and laugh.

I'm not here for the abuse, insults and h**e. I'm here because there are some truly great people, like you rumi, that show love, kindness and compassion, even if you get those feelings mashed a might some days.

I'm only sad that I can't meet everyone in person. First the ones that have really p*ssed me off, I like to take care of business first and forego happy to later. What a fat lip I could give a few and, I do mean a few. The rest I'd like to hug and, with this crowd, I'd suffer from "hug exhaustion" pretty quick. What a great bunch of folks. I feel a whole lot of love on OPP, it's the dominant force and, what keeps me hangin' on here so much.

Add to that, that you told me once you'd buy me lunch and, I'd like to collect what you owe me. ;)

God is so clever isn't he rumi? I was immersed in Catholicism myself until I went into the service. I felt I knew something about God and, that "something" seemed to be a whole lot more than any of my Catholic counterparts could demonstrate to me. It was a good start though and, like you, I looked for answers and I found my faith.

You might be able to tell by what I post sometimes, I'm a bit of a cynic and, have never been one to buy off on what anybody just tells me. My goal was to see if God worship was even worth my precious time. I had no expectations and, decided if God existed the way I felt He did, He'd have no problem showing me His, if I showed Him mine. He had no problem doing that for me... None whatsoever. I have come away with an unshakable faith in things I can't see and, trust my feelings even more than I thought I once had.

I really appreciate the kind things you have said about me. It kind of made me feel real good, all the way down to my soul. You are a good guy rumi and, your type is especially needed to keep us all on the straight and narrow, questioning the answers, and remembering to be loving and compassionate to each other. Plus, whenever you go off on them tangents, you provide a dang good reason to keep drinking. :wink:

I'm kidding of course.

God bless and have a truly great day!

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rumitoid

RockKnutne wrote:

Too easy a question you ask me. What am I doing here? I say, for the same reason you are, even though the way you said it made me spit my oats out and laugh.

I'm not here for the abuse, insults and h**e. I'm here because there are some truly great people, like you rumi, that show love, kindness and compassion, even if you get those feelings mashed a might some days.

I'm only sad that I can't meet everyone in person. First the ones that have really p*ssed me off, I like to take care of business first and forego happy to later. What a fat lip I could give a few and, I do mean a few. The rest I'd like to hug and, with this crowd, I'd suffer from "hug exhaustion" pretty quick. What a great bunch of folks. I feel a whole lot of love on OPP, it's the dominant force and, what keeps me hangin' on here so much.

Add to that, that you told me once you'd buy me lunch and, I'd like to collect what you owe me. ;)

God is so clever isn't he rumi? I was immersed in Catholicism myself until I went into the service. I felt I knew something about God and, that "something" seemed to be a whole lot more than any of my Catholic counterparts could demonstrate to me. It was a good start though and, like you, I looked for answers and I found my faith.

You might be able to tell by what I post sometimes, I'm a bit of a cynic and, have never been one to buy off on what anybody just tells me. My goal was to see if God worship was even worth my precious time. I had no expectations and, decided if God existed the way I felt He did, He'd have no problem showing me His, if I showed Him mine. He had no problem doing that for me... None whatsoever. I have come away with an unshakable faith in things I can't see and, trust my feelings even more than I thought I once had.

I really appreciate the kind things you have said about me. It kind of made me feel real good, all the way down to my soul. You are a good guy rumi and, your type is especially needed to keep us all on the straight and narrow, questioning the answers, and remembering to be loving and compassionate to each other. Plus, whenever you go off on them tangents, you provide a dang good reason to keep drinking. :wink:

I'm kidding of course.

God bless and have a truly great day!

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Too easy a question you ask me. What am I doing he... (show quote)

If I have to be honest, your post almost brought a tear to my eye and by a cruel stroke of coincidence, a wind at that very moment blew a cinder into my eye and an actual tear or two fell: crazy, eh?

I like you and I feel deeply honored to know you. Stick around.

RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll

rumitoid wrote:

If I have to be honest, your post almost brought a tear to my eye and by a cruel stroke of coincidence, a wind at that very moment blew a cinder into my eye and an actual tear or two fell: crazy, eh?

I like you and I feel deeply honored to know you. Stick around.

God bless you rumi. I'm honored to be in the family of God with you. I will stick with you for... well if you count eternity, a fairly long time.

Be well my friend!