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Feb 19, 2021 09:51:38   #
EmilyD
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Exactly right, I'm glad a voice for negative h**eful comments are silenced, we'll be better off as a nation without them.


You don't speak for me or for hundreds of millions of other Americans who loved and respected Rush - do not even dare to pretend to speak on my behalf!

It's possible that when you leave this earth, someone will say what you just said about Rush to a bunch of people on a forum...very possible.

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Feb 19, 2021 09:54:32   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Arya Stark wrote:
No, Rush doesn't get a pass. That said, funerals aren't for the dead. They are for the living. Maybe we would benefit from taking the moral high road here. Can we all just keep our disdain to ourselves? People are grieving, legitimately mourning. We reduce ourselves in mocking a dead man.

I'm guilty, too. Let's just let this be. We can be above all of this.



Well said and Thank You for saying it too...

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Feb 19, 2021 10:03:15   #
American Vet
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Exactly right, I'm glad a voice for negative h**eful comments are silenced, we'll be better off as a nation without them.


Do you mean when l*****t make h**eful comments such as these? Should they be silenced?

Abolish ICE protestors call police the 'N' word. (Think they were Republicans?)

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has been the relentless target of the most vile liberal hatred since his appointment, being viewed as a "race t*****r" on account of his conservative views. In 2011, a group of white liberal protesters showed their true r****t colors when they said on camera that they wanted to "hang him" and "send him back to the fields" and all sorts of other h**e speech against him.

Condoleezza Rice was the first African-American woman to be Secretary of State. Liberal columnist Ted Rall made a r****t cartoon stating her "punishment" was to be sent to a racial re-education camp, and in the process calls her "Bush's beard" and Bush's "house n****".[14] Other liberal "cartoonists" like Pat Oliphant, for instance, depicted her as a bird with accentuated lips praising her "master".

Far-Left CNN contributor Rick Wilson suggested on a Twitter post that Melania Trump should ‘Be Infected’ with c****av***s

https://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_h**e_speech#Against_African-Americans

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Feb 19, 2021 10:09:01   #
American Vet
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Agreed, where did slander and freedom of speech get skewed. In this case I am for suing people/companies that lie, tell falsehood's. Freedom of speech should not equal allowing lies or intentional misinformation.


Fortunately, the Constitution protects us from despots who think like you.

Under U.S. law, many falsehoods—even some deliberate lies—receive the full protection of the First Amendment. That is true even though “there is no constitutional value in false statements of fact,” as Justice Lewis Powell Jr. wrote for the Supreme Court in 1974. Nonetheless, the Court has often refused to allow government to penalize speakers for mistakes, sloppy falsehoods, and lies. Political lies are strongly protectedhttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/does-the-first-amendment-protect-deliberate-lies/496004/

There’s no exception for h**e speech under the First Amendment’s protection for freedom of expression, unless the speech is direct, personal, and either truly threatening or violently provocative.

The First Amendment guarantees the right to freedom of expression. Many Americans—from college students to journalists to legal scholars—believe that guarantee shouldn’t apply to h**e speech. As they argue, h**e speech tramples on the constitutional rights of its targets by insulting, threatening, or silencing them based on characteristics that are protected under antidiscrimination laws (such as ethnicity, religion, g****r, or disability). After all, the U.S. Supreme Court has carved out First Amendment exceptions for certain kinds of particularly dangerous or harmful speech. But the Court hasn’t recognized an exception for h**e speech, unless it falls under one of the other kinds of unprotected expression.
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/does-the-first-amendment-protect-h**e-speech.html

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Feb 19, 2021 13:21:12   #
Cuda2020
 
EmilyD wrote:
You don't speak for me or for hundreds of millions of other Americans who loved and respected Rush - do not even dare to pretend to speak on my behalf!

It's possible that when you leave this earth, someone will say what you just said about Rush to a bunch of people on a forum...very possible.


I never pretended to speak for you, if I want to say I think the nation as a whole is better off, I can, it's my right of free speech and my opinion which I can have also, don't blame me for your panty's being in a wad. I don't spew h**e, lies and mockery on a public broadcasting system.

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Feb 19, 2021 13:25:19   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
Fortunately, the Constitution protects us from despots who think like you.

Under U.S. law, many falsehoods—even some deliberate lies—receive the full protection of the First Amendment. That is true even though “there is no constitutional value in false statements of fact,” as Justice Lewis Powell Jr. wrote for the Supreme Court in 1974. Nonetheless, the Court has often refused to allow government to penalize speakers for mistakes, sloppy falsehoods, and lies. Political lies are strongly protectedhttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/does-the-first-amendment-protect-deliberate-lies/496004/

There’s no exception for h**e speech under the First Amendment’s protection for freedom of expression, unless the speech is direct, personal, and either truly threatening or violently provocative.

The First Amendment guarantees the right to freedom of expression. Many Americans—from college students to journalists to legal scholars—believe that guarantee shouldn’t apply to h**e speech. As they argue, h**e speech tramples on the constitutional rights of its targets by insulting, threatening, or silencing them based on characteristics that are protected under antidiscrimination laws (such as ethnicity, religion, g****r, or disability). After all, the U.S. Supreme Court has carved out First Amendment exceptions for certain kinds of particularly dangerous or harmful speech. But the Court hasn’t recognized an exception for h**e speech, unless it falls under one of the other kinds of unprotected expression.
https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/does-the-first-amendment-protect-h**e-speech.html
Fortunately, the Constitution protects us from des... (show quote)


Yes, unfortunately they don't protect us from the rantings of people like Limbaugh. So much for what you just posted. Otherwise, we all wouldn't have had to hear his degenerative exploits. The division this country is in is directly caused by people such as Trump and Limbaugh.

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Feb 19, 2021 13:31:31   #
Cuda2020
 
American Vet wrote:
Do you mean when l*****t make h**eful comments such as these? Should they be silenced?

Abolish ICE protestors call police the 'N' word. (Think they were Republicans?)

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has been the relentless target of the most vile liberal hatred since his appointment, being viewed as a "race t*****r" on account of his conservative views. In 2011, a group of white liberal protesters showed their true r****t colors when they said on camera that they wanted to "hang him" and "send him back to the fields" and all sorts of other h**e speech against him.

Condoleezza Rice was the first African-American woman to be Secretary of State. Liberal columnist Ted Rall made a r****t cartoon stating her "punishment" was to be sent to a racial re-education camp, and in the process calls her "Bush's beard" and Bush's "house n****".[14] Other liberal "cartoonists" like Pat Oliphant, for instance, depicted her as a bird with accentuated lips praising her "master".

Far-Left CNN contributor Rick Wilson suggested on a Twitter post that Melania Trump should ‘Be Infected’ with c****av***s

https://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_h**e_speech#Against_African-Americans
Do you mean when l*****t make h**eful comments suc... (show quote)


Should I post what has been said by many on the right including yourself on Kamala Harris? If you want to go tit- for-tat on how many more insults per party, you'd lose by a landslide.

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Feb 19, 2021 13:56:02   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
woodguru wrote:
You will never understand the objectivity involved with having no sympathy for truly despicable people. I personally knew Limbaugh when he was in Sacramento in the 80's. It goes deeper, I worked with and was very good friends with his wife at that time. He was a truly despicable person, a pompous and arrogant windbag. He thought the world revolved around him, and was offended that his wife could have the audacity and selfishness to put her career ahead of his personal "needs" for her.

In Sacramento he was an anti government advocate, meaning he was all about looking into waste, fraud, and general government incompetence. And I have always said that he was unbiased in terms of going after republicans as quickly as he'd be on a democrat's butt. There were times he got things right because he was talking about something wrong...but he had a unique talent for being full of crap in terms of his solutions and identification of reasons. Even then he had a tendency to look for conspiracy theories that were often way off base with reality.

He quickly came to realize that there was no money in trashing republicans, dems had no deep pockets for going on crusades against republicans, meanwhile he was being paid more and more to go after dems, to create unrelenting pressure on their mistakes. He even said things on his show reflecting this exact thing, that the reason he was spent more time going after dems was because republicans paid more to do the investigations.

Meanwhile his wife wanted out of her marriage with the fat d********g pig (her words) so badly that she didn't care about the money he was looking at for a syndication deal. I was able to convince her that she had a part in what he was going to get, and hooked her up with one of the best divorce settlement attorneys in Sacramento.

When a person who starts out as an equal opportunity critic and advocate turns to one side because there is far more money involved with attacking the other side, when they see nothing wrong with fueling lies and rhetoric they know are deceiving gullible people, they have sold their soul, it's that simple, they have no soul, honor, or integrity.

That is the man I knew, and the only good thing I can say about him is that he started out with a certain sense of right and wrong even if his processing sk**ls were deeply flawed. There was a point where he tried to advocate for and against right and wrong.
You will never understand the objectivity involved... (show quote)


Wow, you really are a regular Jim Smith.
Rush Limbaugh was a salesman.
Most of his life he was on the wrong side.
Then Trump came, Rush saw Savage surge, dumped the CFR/Bush/neocons,
and finally got it right.

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Feb 19, 2021 14:11:27   #
EmilyD
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I never pretended to speak for you, if I want to say I think the nation as a whole is better off, I can, it's my right of free speech and my opinion which I can have also, don't blame me for your panty's being in a wad. I don't spew h**e, lies and mockery on a public broadcasting system.


You lie...or you don't remember your own words. You said "Exactly right, I'm glad a voice for negative h**eful comments are silenced {meaning Rush's voice}, we'll be better off as a nation without them."....."we" being the operative word. Since I am part of this nation, then you imply that I will be better off without Rush and "people like him". I do not believe that, and neither do hundreds of millions of people who feel the same way about Rush.

No, you don't spew h**e, lies and mockery on a public broadcasting system, but you do it here on OPP.

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Feb 19, 2021 14:18:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
EmilyD wrote:
You lie...or you don't remember your own words. You said "Exactly right, I'm glad a voice for negative h**eful comments are silenced {meaning Rush's voice}, we'll be better off as a nation without them."....."we" being the operative word. Since I am part of this nation, then you imply that I will be better off without Rush and "people like him". I do not believe that, and neither do hundreds of millions of people who feel the same way about Rush.

No, you don't spew h**e, lies and mockery on a public broadcasting system, but you do it here on OPP.
You lie...or you don't remember your own words. Yo... (show quote)


Barracuda is one of the more subtle liars on OPP.

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Feb 19, 2021 14:26:14   #
EmilyD
 
JFlorio wrote:
Barracuda is one of the more subtle liars on OPP.


The worst kind of liar. Think they're being clever when everyone can see their deceit....pathetic.

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Feb 19, 2021 15:05:42   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
EmilyD wrote:
The worst kind of liar. Think they're being clever when everyone can see their deceit....pathetic.


Never debates honestly. When he can’t refute your argument deflects. Then tries to dishonesty turn your response around and never does answer any original questions. Like you said clever. Clever as a dunce. Probably has a collection of caps.

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Feb 19, 2021 15:34:13   #
American Vet
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Yes, unfortunately they don't protect us from the rantings of people like Limbaugh. So much for what you just posted. Otherwise, we all wouldn't have had to hear his degenerative exploits. The division this country is in is directly caused by people such as Trump and Limbaugh.



TDS rant noted.

Fortunately for you, the Constitution protects your rants as well.

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Feb 19, 2021 15:35:36   #
EmilyD
 
woodguru wrote:
Which is the joke about pure ignorance and beliefs formed in a vacuum of pure and absolute ignorance...This is an example of what you believe having absolutely no relationship to facts or t***h.

Her name she used at the print shop she worked at, Graphic Center, was Melanie, she was a job coordinator or CSR. Chances are you can see in bios on Limbaugh that he went through several marriages, and Melanie's happens to coincide with the period I was talking about before and during when he got his big syndication deal worth tens of millions and moved away from Sacramento. They had no kids but she never had to work again after leaving him.

If I wanted to make something up it wouldn't be about this windbag.
Which is the joke about pure ignorance and beliefs... (show quote)

Sounds like you made up one of his ex-wives. Who is "Melanie"???

Limbaugh was previously married to Roxy Maxine McNeely (1977 to 1980), who was a secretary at a radio station in Kansas City where Limbaugh was also employed; Michelle Sixta (1983 to 1990), a college student and usherette at the Kansas City Royals Stadium Club; and Marta Fitzgerald (1994 to 2004), an aerobics instructor from Jacksonville when they were married. He married Kathryn Adams Rogers in 2010.

It seems to me if you really knew Rush's ex-wife you would at least know her name.

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