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Sep 2, 2014 21:43:21   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
clarkwv wrote:
My point on Elites was are you not just as guilty when you use the word as anyone else, especially on a public form.

As far a Obama and the $2500, if you look up the quote (I did), you will see he said I have a plan which could save the average family $2500. This is not the same as saying I will save the average family $2500. As no president or party can always tell how there members in the House or Senate will v**e you statement he had no excuses, there were enough in both houses who felt the Public Option would hurt there change at ree******n that the bill would not work in either the House or Senate, so no the bill he talked about when running was not the bill that passed.

Any ambassador has the power and the right to take all of the state dept. people out of any country he is ambassador to. There for who is to blame, but himself for keeping those people there if he felt it was no safe but himself.

As to they should of had more protection, as Congress had cut funds for the protection of our state dept. bases and people overseas, where should have cuts been made to give that base better protection?

AS it is a known fact the video led to some of the problem in that time period in other countries in the Near East, how can you be so positive it had nothing to do with there.

I think some are looking a little to hard at this happening, as the real blame falls on those people who decided to attack, no where else. Try to find others to blame is nothing more that being a Monday Morning Quarterback.
My point on Elites was are you not just as guilty ... (show quote)
1. His words were clearly spoken to say to Americans that they would save $2500.00, keep their plan, and keep their doctor. No lawyer-speak technicality changes the deception. IOW he lied.
2. He made a promise of saving 2500. It was not a conditional promise. He didn't veto the bill. He signed it. IOW, he lied.
3. Congress is not CIC and not Sec of State. The spending cuts did not marroon the people that died without support, Obama and Hillary did. They could have pulled them out but did not. POTUS had assets to protect them but did not bother to use them. IOW, they lied.
4. There was no spontious video demonstration, there was a planned terrorist militaryish attack. IOW, they lied.

Every leader makes mistakes. Not everyone lies and blames videos to cover their errors because the aren't mature enough to lead.

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Sep 3, 2014 14:01:27   #
clarkwv Loc: west virginia
 
Super Dave wrote:
1. His words were clearly spoken to say to Americans that they would save $2500.00, keep their plan, and keep their doctor. No lawyer-speak technicality changes the deception. IOW he lied.
2. He made a promise of saving 2500. It was not a conditional promise. He didn't veto the bill. He signed it. IOW, he lied.
3. Congress is not CIC and not Sec of State. The spending cuts did not marroon the people that died without support, Obama and Hillary did. They could have pulled them out but did not. POTUS had assets to protect them but did not bother to use them. IOW, they lied.
4. There was no spontious video demonstration, there was a planned terrorist militaryish attack. IOW, they lied.

Every leader makes mistakes. Not everyone lies and blames videos to cover their errors because the aren't mature enough to lead.
1. His words were clearly spoken to say to America... (show quote)


I am not going to change your mind and you are not going to change mine, so can we agree to disagree?

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Sep 4, 2014 15:49:39   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
clarkwv wrote:
I am not going to change your mind and you are not going to change mine, so can we agree to disagree?
Of course we can disagree.

I'll be interested to see more evidence come out, and as it comes out, the reaction from the Race-Baiters is pretty easy to guess:

If it condemns the police officer, it will be proof of r****m, because there is no other way a black man can be shot by a white man.

If it condemns the man that was k**led, it won't matter, because the facts will be r****t.

Either way it plays out, you can rely on the race-baiters to make it about r****m and black victimization.

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