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Feb 16, 2021 21:02:52   #
jelun
 
son of witless wrote:
In a court of law the deck is stacked for the defendant. The prosecution has to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. They also have to get an unbiased jury. Finding that unbiased jury is near impossible which works for the defense. You also need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt Donald J. Trump's intent. I cannot imagine after reading the speech that you can do that. Innuendo is not admissible.

You have a better chance in civil court because the burden is far less. Even there, we will likely all be dead before that would get settled.
In a court of law the deck is stacked for the defe... (show quote)



You don't really believe that all of this is about one speech.
We have conspiracy charges moving forward. It is going to be fantastic reading and listening and watching this. My only disappointment will be a lack of coverage on CSpan.

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Feb 16, 2021 21:53:57   #
WaddlEroad
 
I remember when Biden had to drop out of the race in ‘88 for lying and plagiarism. Saying he was in the top of his class when he was near the bottom that he had three degrees when he only had one. Trump kept his promises and worked for nothing Biden’s time in the White House has already been a disaster. He doesn’t know where he’s at half the time. I’m willing to bet he doesn’t last a year before the most radical one in congress, Kamala, has to take over. Anyone that was stupid enough to v**e for him will get what they deserve.

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Feb 16, 2021 22:13:16   #
WaddlEroad
 
Immigrants to support us in our old age? Who coming across the southern border will be qualified to support us? The only thing they’re qualified for is landscaping! I’ve seen the price of gas below $2 while Trump was president and I’ll bet it will be $4 a gallon by the time the i***t in the White House has to be committed for Alzheimer’s! Everything he’s done so far has been a disaster by k*****g jobs kicking Israel aside and cozying up to Iran. That XL pipeline provided a lot of jobs and Kerry showed his stupidity by saying they could move right into green jobs. Green jobs pay a little more than 50K a year compared to the pipeline jobs paying over 80K. Not to mention the tax money coming in. By all means lets get back in the Paris accord for a few trillion while India, China and Japan continue building coal fired generating stations. Unemployment is not up?? Really? Please don’t go out unsupervised you’re sure to hurt yourself! Only an i***t would have v**ed for the corrupt pos we now have in the White House!

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Feb 16, 2021 23:03:28   #
Rose42
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"Name one thing Biden has done his short time in office that has helped Americans. "

He kicked a lying POS out of the White House.


No he didn’t. V**ers did.

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Feb 16, 2021 23:08:05   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Rose42 wrote:
No he didn’t. V**ers did.


Would you call it a gang bang?

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Feb 16, 2021 23:22:21   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
son of witless wrote:
I quadruple dog dare you to answer this question. How are these Republicans of which you speak any different from the Democrats who v**ed to acquit Bill Clinton in his Impeachment trial ?


Clinton lied about sex.
Trump hasn’t stopped
Lying about everything yet?

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Feb 16, 2021 23:32:14   #
kittykatt
 
jelun wrote:
You must be quite ashamed of Mr. Trump then, he created a whole i**********n through conspiracy in order to steal an e******n.


No he didn't. And if he did then why are the democrats in the White House? All President Trump did was to mobilize his supporters and tell them to fight for justice. His using the word 'fight' was no different than the legal commercials saying that they will 'fight' for their client. Or the USC song. He did not mean to use sticks, stones, knives, guns or any other lethal weapon.

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Feb 17, 2021 05:10:53   #
fullspinzoo
 
rumitoid wrote:
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. Trump has been acquitted of betraying his oath and his country. He was guilty of these charges, and so is the Republican Party, despite a handful of exceptions in a 57-43 v**e that allowed Trump to escape conviction and a permanent ban on holding federal office.

The Democratic House managers did a magnificent job, marshaling elegant rhetoric and ironclad logic far beyond what Trump’s obvious guilt required. Their case will stand for years as an example of civic virtue.

Trump’s defense team, composed of a personal injury lawyer and a few other nonentities, was incompetent and whined like Trump himself about “Democrat managers” and “cancel culture.” They managed to make ambulance chasing seem noble by comparison.

And none of it mattered. The outcome was foreordained. On a weekend we once reserved for honoring the births of Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, so-called constitutionalists like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah gleefully betrayed everything for which Lincoln lived and for which he was murdered in cold blood. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, barely able to contain his smirking, made the case within minutes of Trump’s acquittal that the former president was probably guilty anyway, but hey, maybe someone else can take him to court — just somewhere other than the Senate.

Bending a knee to the cult of Trump

It is long past time to put aside rationalizations about ideology and party loyalty and tribalism. The v**ers back home in these Republican states and districts might be drunk on the vile moonshine brewed by Fox News, One America News Network and other right-wing outfits, but McConnell and the Republican members of Congress are — with the obvious exception of kooks like Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado or Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia — educated men and women who know better. They know exactly what they are doing and why.

The acquittal of Donald Trump proved, with final certainty, that the Republicans are driven only by ambition, comfort and self-interest — and the Constitution be damned.

For all of their complaints about “The Swamp,” these GOP careerists are creatures of Washington. No matter where they were born, they are now the squires of Northern Virginia and Georgetown and they are not going back. For all their populist bravado about how the “elites” h**e the Real Americans, no one is more elitist and h**es Real America — including their own constituents — as much as the Republicans who will do anything rather than risk being sent home to live among them.

Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton and the House’s dreadful Elise Stefanik, from New York's Adirondacks, did not both go to Harvard just to end up as the mayor of Fayetteville or relegated to a city council in Plattsburgh. Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley didn’t make it to Stanford and Yale just to hang out a shingle probating wills and handling divorces in Sedalia.

These opportunists will never do anything that might incur even so much as the remote risk of a primary challenge. They have made it and they are staying where they are. Exile from the District of Columbia is not for them. If bending the knee yet one more time to the cult of Trump keeps them motoring along the Rock Creek Parkway while taking in the vista of the Potomac River, it is a price they will gladly pay. And so will all of us pay, too, as democracy settles into trench warfare between a shrinking but powerful claque of ruthless frauds and the rest of America.

There are a few noble exceptions among the Republicans, but not enough to matter. Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, for one, has said point-blank that he is willing to lose his job if that is the price of telling the t***h, and that if it happens, he will be at peace.

But others, such as Sens. Rand Paul (himself the son of a long-serving congressman) or Ted Cruz — a man known for his legendary and insufferable ambition since college, and who probably ran for class leader in his newborn ward in the hospital — will risk no such sacrifice. They, you see, were bred for better things far from Kentucky and Texas, and if that means allying themselves with the worst and most partisan elements in America rather than with the Constitution, so be it.

Cynical in the face of history

The Republicans have repeatedly betrayed both Lincoln and the Union. The party whose first president died as a martyr at the hands of an i**********nist is now controlled by empty, hollow people who rolled their eyes and lazed their way through the trial of a president who was manifestly guilty of inciting an i**********n.

If nothing else, perhaps this d********g dishonoring of the memory of our 16th president should persuade the rest of us to bring back the actual Feb. 12 and Feb. 22 birthdays of Presidents Lincoln and Washington as national holidays, so that we do not confuse their heroism and nobility with the cult of personality practiced by modern Republicans.
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. T... (show quote)


See a doctor. You have some real mental issues. Other than that NWR!!!!

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Feb 17, 2021 10:23:06   #
Dragnet
 
rumitoid wrote:
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. Trump has been acquitted of betraying his oath and his country. He was guilty of these charges, and so is the Republican Party, despite a handful of exceptions in a 57-43 v**e that allowed Trump to escape conviction and a permanent ban on holding federal office.

The Democratic House managers did a magnificent job, marshaling elegant rhetoric and ironclad logic far beyond what Trump’s obvious guilt required. Their case will stand for years as an example of civic virtue.

Trump’s defense team, composed of a personal injury lawyer and a few other nonentities, was incompetent and whined like Trump himself about “Democrat managers” and “cancel culture.” They managed to make ambulance chasing seem noble by comparison.


And none of it mattered. The outcome was foreordained. On a weekend we once reserved for honoring the births of Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, so-called constitutionalists like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah gleefully betrayed everything for which Lincoln lived and for which he was murdered in cold blood. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, barely able to contain his smirking, made the case within minutes of Trump’s acquittal that the former president was probably guilty anyway, but hey, maybe someone else can take him to court — just somewhere other than the Senate.

Bending a knee to the cult of Trump

It is long past time to put aside rationalizations about ideology and party loyalty and tribalism. The v**ers back home in these Republican states and districts might be drunk on the vile moonshine brewed by Fox News, One America News Network and other right-wing outfits, but McConnell and the Republican members of Congress are — with the obvious exception of kooks like Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado or Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia — educated men and women who know better. They know exactly what they are doing and why.

The acquittal of Donald Trump proved, with final certainty, that the Republicans are driven only by ambition, comfort and self-interest — and the Constitution be damned.

For all of their complaints about “The Swamp,” these GOP careerists are creatures of Washington. No matter where they were born, they are now the squires of Northern Virginia and Georgetown and they are not going back. For all their populist bravado about how the “elites” h**e the Real Americans, no one is more elitist and h**es Real America — including their own constituents — as much as the Republicans who will do anything rather than risk being sent home to live among them.

Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton and the House’s dreadful Elise Stefanik, from New York's Adirondacks, did not both go to Harvard just to end up as the mayor of Fayetteville or relegated to a city council in Plattsburgh. Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley didn’t make it to Stanford and Yale just to hang out a shingle probating wills and handling divorces in Sedalia.

These opportunists will never do anything that might incur even so much as the remote risk of a primary challenge. They have made it and they are staying where they are. Exile from the District of Columbia is not for them. If bending the knee yet one more time to the cult of Trump keeps them motoring along the Rock Creek Parkway while taking in the vista of the Potomac River, it is a price they will gladly pay. And so will all of us pay, too, as democracy settles into trench warfare between a shrinking but powerful claque of ruthless frauds and the rest of America.

There are a few noble exceptions among the Republicans, but not enough to matter. Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, for one, has said point-blank that he is willing to lose his job if that is the price of telling the t***h, and that if it happens, he will be at peace.

But others, such as Sens. Rand Paul (himself the son of a long-serving congressman) or Ted Cruz — a man known for his legendary and insufferable ambition since college, and who probably ran for class leader in his newborn ward in the hospital — will risk no such sacrifice. They, you see, were bred for better things far from Kentucky and Texas, and if that means allying themselves with the worst and most partisan elements in America rather than with the Constitution, so be it.

Cynical in the face of history

The Republicans have repeatedly betrayed both Lincoln and the Union. The party whose first president died as a martyr at the hands of an i**********nist is now controlled by empty, hollow people who rolled their eyes and lazed their way through the trial of a president who was manifestly guilty of inciting an i**********n.

If nothing else, perhaps this d********g dishonoring of the memory of our 16th president should persuade the rest of us to bring back the actual Feb. 12 and Feb. 22 birthdays of Presidents Lincoln and Washington as national holidays, so that we do not confuse their heroism and nobility with the cult of personality practiced by modern Republicans.
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. T... (show quote)




First class baloney. Trump no more incited a r**t J** 6 than someone’s pet Airedale. You write about respecting the constitution. Where was John Roberts. The constitution states the Chief Justice shall preside over this “show trial”. Instead there was “leaky Leahy” presiding. Just like the Soviet show trials of the 1930’s. Fortunately, there were enough patriots not willing to participate in the phony charade. It also states a president, not a former president (due only to a completely r****d e******n) can be removed from office. How does one removed someone from office once they are no longer in office.? Brilliant, just brilliant.
Trump is the greatest president we have had since Lincoln. Trump 2024.

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Feb 17, 2021 10:44:23   #
Skiladi21
 
rumitoid wrote:
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. Trump has been acquitted of betraying his oath and his country. He was guilty of these charges, and so is the Republican Party, despite a handful of exceptions in a 57-43 v**e that allowed Trump to escape conviction and a permanent ban on holding federal office.

The Democratic House managers did a magnificent job, marshaling elegant rhetoric and ironclad logic far beyond what Trump’s obvious guilt required. Their case will stand for years as an example of civic virtue.

Trump’s defense team, composed of a personal injury lawyer and a few other nonentities, was incompetent and whined like Trump himself about “Democrat managers” and “cancel culture.” They managed to make ambulance chasing seem noble by comparison.

And none of it mattered. The outcome was foreordained. On a weekend we once reserved for honoring the births of Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, so-called constitutionalists like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah gleefully betrayed everything for which Lincoln lived and for which he was murdered in cold blood. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, barely able to contain his smirking, made the case within minutes of Trump’s acquittal that the former president was probably guilty anyway, but hey, maybe someone else can take him to court — just somewhere other than the Senate.

Bending a knee to the cult of Trump

It is long past time to put aside rationalizations about ideology and party loyalty and tribalism. The v**ers back home in these Republican states and districts might be drunk on the vile moonshine brewed by Fox News, One America News Network and other right-wing outfits, but McConnell and the Republican members of Congress are — with the obvious exception of kooks like Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado or Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia — educated men and women who know better. They know exactly what they are doing and why.

The acquittal of Donald Trump proved, with final certainty, that the Republicans are driven only by ambition, comfort and self-interest — and the Constitution be damned.

For all of their complaints about “The Swamp,” these GOP careerists are creatures of Washington. No matter where they were born, they are now the squires of Northern Virginia and Georgetown and they are not going back. For all their populist bravado about how the “elites” h**e the Real Americans, no one is more elitist and h**es Real America — including their own constituents — as much as the Republicans who will do anything rather than risk being sent home to live among them.

Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton and the House’s dreadful Elise Stefanik, from New York's Adirondacks, did not both go to Harvard just to end up as the mayor of Fayetteville or relegated to a city council in Plattsburgh. Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley didn’t make it to Stanford and Yale just to hang out a shingle probating wills and handling divorces in Sedalia.

These opportunists will never do anything that might incur even so much as the remote risk of a primary challenge. They have made it and they are staying where they are. Exile from the District of Columbia is not for them. If bending the knee yet one more time to the cult of Trump keeps them motoring along the Rock Creek Parkway while taking in the vista of the Potomac River, it is a price they will gladly pay. And so will all of us pay, too, as democracy settles into trench warfare between a shrinking but powerful claque of ruthless frauds and the rest of America.

There are a few noble exceptions among the Republicans, but not enough to matter. Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, for one, has said point-blank that he is willing to lose his job if that is the price of telling the t***h, and that if it happens, he will be at peace.

But others, such as Sens. Rand Paul (himself the son of a long-serving congressman) or Ted Cruz — a man known for his legendary and insufferable ambition since college, and who probably ran for class leader in his newborn ward in the hospital — will risk no such sacrifice. They, you see, were bred for better things far from Kentucky and Texas, and if that means allying themselves with the worst and most partisan elements in America rather than with the Constitution, so be it.

Cynical in the face of history

The Republicans have repeatedly betrayed both Lincoln and the Union. The party whose first president died as a martyr at the hands of an i**********nist is now controlled by empty, hollow people who rolled their eyes and lazed their way through the trial of a president who was manifestly guilty of inciting an i**********n.

If nothing else, perhaps this d********g dishonoring of the memory of our 16th president should persuade the rest of us to bring back the actual Feb. 12 and Feb. 22 birthdays of Presidents Lincoln and Washington as national holidays, so that we do not confuse their heroism and nobility with the cult of personality practiced by modern Republicans.
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. T... (show quote)


This is the best display of self delusion I have read so far. This "person" writes well but everything is a pack of lies. The whole impeachment was unconstitutional. It was nothing but a vengeful vendetta. A lot of that day was staged with actors, rehearsals and f**e blood. That has even proven. There were legitimate protesters there, too, but they did not cause the problems. Even the policeman who was k**led was not k**led by being hit on the head. There were other causes. But the damage was done and any retraction was buried. When you play with fire, Ms. Pelosi, people get burned. The democrats' h**efulness is unbounded. Their self interest overshadows any alleged desire to help the country.
The testimony was doctored. I could go on and on, but anyone whose eyes and ears are open can't fail to see the t***h. This charade must stop before this country is completely destroyed. Biden and his crackhead son will see to that. Kamala... She was sworn in on her pocket book not on the Bible. Did you see the pictures? Learn Chinese folks...

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Feb 17, 2021 11:08:35   #
fullspinzoo
 
D**gnet wrote:
First class baloney. Trump no more incited a r**t J** 6 than someone’s pet Airedale. You write about respecting the constitution. Where was John Roberts. The constitution states the Chief Justice shall preside over this “show trial”. Instead there was “leaky Leahy” presiding. Just like the Soviet show trials of the 1930’s. Fortunately, there were enough patriots not willing to participate in the phony charade. It also states a president, not a former president (due only to a completely r****d e******n) can be removed from office. How does one removed someone from office once they are no longer in office.? Brilliant, just brilliant.
Trump is the greatest president we have had since Lincoln. Trump 2024.
First class baloney. Trump no more incited a r**t... (show quote)


Trump is the greatest President we've had since Licoln. Spot on, D**g. Betweeominion switching, mial-in BS, dead people, the corruption, the fraud. Trump had so many huge blocks of v**es sewn up - evangelicals, law enforcement, gun owners, pro-lifers, pro lower taxes, pro less regs, pro- business, best economy ever, stock traders. One point five million doors knocked on (while SloJo sat in his basement).The joke only came out of his basement to try and make it look legit. Trump 2024. Great post, BTW.

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Feb 17, 2021 12:48:39   #
Hadenough
 
rumitoid wrote:
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. Trump has been acquitted of betraying his oath and his country. He was guilty of these charges, and so is the Republican Party, despite a handful of exceptions in a 57-43 v**e that allowed Trump to escape conviction and a permanent ban on holding federal office.

The Democratic House managers did a magnificent job, marshaling elegant rhetoric and ironclad logic far beyond what Trump’s obvious guilt required. Their case will stand for years as an example of civic virtue.

Trump’s defense team, composed of a personal injury lawyer and a few other nonentities, was incompetent and whined like Trump himself about “Democrat managers” and “cancel culture.” They managed to make ambulance chasing seem noble by comparison.

And none of it mattered. The outcome was foreordained. On a weekend we once reserved for honoring the births of Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, so-called constitutionalists like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah gleefully betrayed everything for which Lincoln lived and for which he was murdered in cold blood. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, barely able to contain his smirking, made the case within minutes of Trump’s acquittal that the former president was probably guilty anyway, but hey, maybe someone else can take him to court — just somewhere other than the Senate.

Bending a knee to the cult of Trump

It is long past time to put aside rationalizations about ideology and party loyalty and tribalism. The v**ers back home in these Republican states and districts might be drunk on the vile moonshine brewed by Fox News, One America News Network and other right-wing outfits, but McConnell and the Republican members of Congress are — with the obvious exception of kooks like Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado or Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia — educated men and women who know better. They know exactly what they are doing and why.

The acquittal of Donald Trump proved, with final certainty, that the Republicans are driven only by ambition, comfort and self-interest — and the Constitution be damned.

For all of their complaints about “The Swamp,” these GOP careerists are creatures of Washington. No matter where they were born, they are now the squires of Northern Virginia and Georgetown and they are not going back. For all their populist bravado about how the “elites” h**e the Real Americans, no one is more elitist and h**es Real America — including their own constituents — as much as the Republicans who will do anything rather than risk being sent home to live among them.

Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton and the House’s dreadful Elise Stefanik, from New York's Adirondacks, did not both go to Harvard just to end up as the mayor of Fayetteville or relegated to a city council in Plattsburgh. Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley didn’t make it to Stanford and Yale just to hang out a shingle probating wills and handling divorces in Sedalia.

These opportunists will never do anything that might incur even so much as the remote risk of a primary challenge. They have made it and they are staying where they are. Exile from the District of Columbia is not for them. If bending the knee yet one more time to the cult of Trump keeps them motoring along the Rock Creek Parkway while taking in the vista of the Potomac River, it is a price they will gladly pay. And so will all of us pay, too, as democracy settles into trench warfare between a shrinking but powerful claque of ruthless frauds and the rest of America.

There are a few noble exceptions among the Republicans, but not enough to matter. Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, for one, has said point-blank that he is willing to lose his job if that is the price of telling the t***h, and that if it happens, he will be at peace.

But others, such as Sens. Rand Paul (himself the son of a long-serving congressman) or Ted Cruz — a man known for his legendary and insufferable ambition since college, and who probably ran for class leader in his newborn ward in the hospital — will risk no such sacrifice. They, you see, were bred for better things far from Kentucky and Texas, and if that means allying themselves with the worst and most partisan elements in America rather than with the Constitution, so be it.

Cynical in the face of history

The Republicans have repeatedly betrayed both Lincoln and the Union. The party whose first president died as a martyr at the hands of an i**********nist is now controlled by empty, hollow people who rolled their eyes and lazed their way through the trial of a president who was manifestly guilty of inciting an i**********n.

If nothing else, perhaps this d********g dishonoring of the memory of our 16th president should persuade the rest of us to bring back the actual Feb. 12 and Feb. 22 birthdays of Presidents Lincoln and Washington as national holidays, so that we do not confuse their heroism and nobility with the cult of personality practiced by modern Republicans.
The second Senate trial of Donald Trump is over. T... (show quote)


Hemi,

One word for you FEAR, you have learned to live with it.

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Feb 17, 2021 12:54:15   #
Hadenough
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Clinton lied about sex.
Trump hasn’t stopped
Lying about everything yet?


Milo,

The pot calling the kettle black, go drink your purple kool-aid and call your friends on your obummer phone.
If someone called you a half wit, they would be complementing you.
Dem 5D Mode.

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Feb 17, 2021 12:54:53   #
fullspinzoo
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Trump is the greatest President we've had since Licoln. Spot on, D**g. Betwen D******n switching, mail-in BS, dead people, the corruption, the fraud. Trump had so many huge blocks of v**es sewn up - evangelicals, law enforcement, gun owners, pro-lifers, pro lower taxes, pro less regs, pro- business, best economy ever, stock traders. One point five million doors knocked on (while SloJo sat in his basement).The joke only came out of his basement to try and make it look legit. Trump 2024. Great post, BTW.
Trump is the greatest President we've had since Li... (show quote)

Forgot to proofread.

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Feb 17, 2021 12:58:11   #
fullspinzoo
 
Hadenough wrote:
Milo,

The pot calling the kettle black, go drink your purple kool-aid and call your friends on your obummer phone.
If someone called you a half wit, they would be complementing you.
Dem 5D Mode.

Or never be respected again for giving her way too much credit.

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