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Feb 13, 2021 20:09:12   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.

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Feb 13, 2021 20:21:29   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


What sets him apart was that he was amoral man with integrity! Totally opposite of the demonrats and rinos! God help us! Maranatha!!! Come soon Lord Jesus!!!!

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Feb 13, 2021 20:38:21   #
Hug
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


Great post!

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Feb 13, 2021 20:41:01   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


Thanks Don: I'm a purveyor of Greek and Roman intellect!

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Feb 13, 2021 21:07:53   #
elledee
 
nothing new under the sun it is as it has always been .....thanks for posting

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Feb 13, 2021 21:20:09   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


I concur. Great post. It's past time WE THE PEOPLE take back this country from the blood suckers. They all need to be reigned in and they aren't going to do it themselves
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Feb 13, 2021 21:35:50   #
Grugore
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


Also from Cicero...
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the t*****r moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the t*****r appears not a t*****r; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The t*****r is the plague."

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Feb 13, 2021 22:02:16   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


Well done. Thanks for posting

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Feb 14, 2021 01:56:33   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


One thing about H****r B***n. . What I read was the money from China was to buy-in to high tech companies trying to secure contracts with our military. Then turn the technology and designs over to China. You can buy into a lot of companies with one and. A half Billion dollars.

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Feb 14, 2021 05:37:27   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


Regarding your Harry Truman quote, he was the last president to not use the office for self-betterment until Trump. When President Truman left the White House, he and Bess packed their car and drove home to Missouri. It was after he left office that Congress approved pensions for former President's, as they felt it was a disgrace that the former head of the country was left essentially penniless from his service.

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Feb 14, 2021 07:43:27   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
What sets him apart was that he was amoral man with integrity! Totally opposite of the demonrats and rinos! God help us! Maranatha!!! Come soon Lord Jesus!!!!


Amen, won’t be long!

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Feb 14, 2021 11:54:35   #
Dinty
 
Kickaha wrote:
Regarding your Harry Truman quote, he was the last president to not use the office for self-betterment until Trump. When President Truman left the White House, he and Bess packed their car and drove home to Missouri. It was after he left office that Congress approved pensions for former President's, as they felt it was a disgrace that the former head of the country was left essentially penniless from his service.


True, and he did not want the $25,000. that Congress gave him.

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Feb 14, 2021 19:44:08   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


And like Rome, the military made it strong and kept it going for a thousand years. I believe our military is running the nation. I hope they can save her. Corrupt politicians should be removed first. Common-Law should remove most lawyers and thugs. I sure hope Trump returns earlier than 2024. Like this March. If more things must unfold first, so be it.

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Feb 18, 2021 02:50:33   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Some, Read Carefully, And Slowly, So The Information And Seep Into The Granit... Don D.WHAT WE CAN LEARN TODAY FROM THE WRITINGS OF MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO

BY E.P. UNUM - February 12, 2021 

Marcus Tullius Cicero was born on January 3, 106 B.C., and was beheaded…

Murdered actually, on December 7, 43 B.C. by order from the SecondTriumvirate...

His life coincided with the decline and fall of the roman republic, and he played an important role in many of the significant political events of his time. His writings are now a valuable source of information regarding the historical significance of those events. Cicero was, among other things, a brilliant orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher, and a man of high moral character...

Making sense of his writings and understanding his philosophy is important to keep in mind. He was forced out of politics because of fear that his following presented a danger to those in power which he unabashedly questioned...
 
Cicero’s inventive command of Latin prose provided a model for generations of textbooks and grammars. The Church Fathers explored Greek philosophy through Cicero’s t***slations, and many historians date the start of the Renaissance to Petrarch’s rediscovery of Cicero’s letters in 1345. Enlightenment thinkers including John Locke, David Hume, Montesquieu, and Thomas Jefferson all borrowed thoughts and turns of phrase from Cicero. The first-century critic Quintilian said that Cicero was “the name, not of a man, but of eloquence itself.”...
 
Among many of his famous comments and ones I believe may be familiar to you are these:
 
“if you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need”
 
“the life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living”
 
“a room without books is like a body without a soul”
 
So, what then can we learn from Marcus Tullius Cicero, a man now dead for over 2,000 years?
 
Well here is something Cicero wrote just two years before the SecondTriumvirate of Marc Anthony, Octavian Caesar, and Lepidus issued the order to have Cicero beheaded:

The poor-------------------work and work and work some more...
The rich--------------------exploit the poor...
The soldier—--------------protects and defends both unquestionably...
The taxpayer---------------pays for all three...
The banker-----------------robs all four...
The lawyer-----------------misleads all five...
The physician--------------bills all six...The goons and r****rs-----scare all seven...
The politician----lives happily on account of all eight... (Read This Last One Again!)

Tell me, what has changed in over two thousand years..?
 
Have you ever wondered how it is that politicians who are paid salaries of between $164,000 and $220,000 per year by your government, plus expenses and stipends and the best health care for themselves and their families, all free of charge to them, can accumulate such wealth as to own two and three mansions and record earned income of $13 million like president Biden? These are public servants. How is that possible..? 


(“Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.” ― Pres. (D) Harry S. Truman) 


Have you ever wondered why it is we borrow billions to make unrestricted grants to nations who h**e us? Have you ever wondered why our federal government cannot live within its means like every other American citizen is required to do? In other words, make sure the income the government collects is used to meet necessary expenses on behalf of the people and no more? Why is our government unable to make ends meet when total tax revenues from all sources are $4.5 Trillion Dollars but our expenses for government programs total $6.5 Trillion?  I am not talking about 2020 when the world was faced with a p******c and extraordinary steps needed to be taken. But all the other years when we continue to operate at a deficit.
 
Have you ever stopped to ask yourselves these questions? Take a closer look at what Marcus Cicero wrote over 2,000 years ago. Then think about this:
 
Your government decides that it is a good idea to guarantee $1.0 billion in loans for Ukraine. But then the Vice President of the United States comes along and says quite directly that if the Finance Director of Ukraine, who has commenced an investigation of a company called Burismawhere the son of the U.S. sitting Vice President of the United States is on the board of directors, is not fired within six hours, Ukraine “ain’t getting the money or the guarantee”. In the neighborhood I grew up in, some would call that “strong-arming”. But my question goes a little deeper. The Finance Director was fired, Ukraine got the guarantee and the money, but did anyone get a piece of that $1.0 billion?
 
Wh**ever happened to all of the humanitarian aid to Haiti that the ClintonFoundation raised? Where did all that money go? What happened to the Clinton Foundation? They received $145 million in donations from Russia. On what and who was this money spent? Some reports of cash disbursements for the Clinton Foundation suggest that salaries and travel expenses consumed most of the income for the Foundation with very little going to help people. How’d that happen?
 
Have you read or heard anything about the $1.6 Billion in investment H****rBiden received from a Chinese C*******t Party business when he flew with his father on Air Force II for “talks in China”?. Kind of odd don’t you think that the Chinese C*******ts would give H****rBiden $1.6 billion to invest when he has no expertise in investment banking? We do know that a company was set up and funds were invested in that company but where is its charter, its by-laws and who specifically are the shareholders, and what are their stakes in this company? Wouldn’t you like to know these things or have you forgotten about them with all the noise going on with Trump’s second impeachment trial and the debate over schools not being opened? Could it be their “investment” was about access to the Vice President who is now the President of The United States? If you were the head of a government, any government, would you put $1.6 billion into the hands of H****r B***n, a drug addict with a checkered past and literally no experience in money management? I don’t think you would unless you believe you would be getting access to his father and be able to influence decisions that would benefit you.
 
The fact is little has changed in over 2,000 years. Politics today is a very dirty business with politicians reaping huge rewards….indeed huge payoffs….“tips and clips” to put it bluntly…all on the backs of the people. 

Lost in all of this is the fact that what our nation has evolved to is not at all what our Founders wanted for us when they handed us a The Constitutional Republic. James Madison wrote…“we base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self-government”. As I have written in the past, this notion that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power except that granted to it by the sovereign people, is still the newest, most unique idea in the long history of man’s relation to man. But, at its core, it presupposes that the representatives elected by the people conduct themselves with honesty and integrity…and indeed most of them I believed. But there are far too many who are more concerned with seeking power and control over the people and imposing their will, and once that permeates government, the signs of decline, like that of the RomanEmpire. raise their ugly head.
 
I am disgusted with the state of our government today. Politicians speak eloquently about democracy. The problem is they don’t practice it and the reason they do not is simply this: they do not care about the people they represent for if they did, they would not conduct themselves the way they are. This past week they spent millions of taxpayer dollarsimpeaching a President who is no longer president on spurious charges. That is not responsible government. It reminds me of the derivation of the word politics which is from the Greek word “poly”meaning “many and “tics” meaning blood-sucking parasites”. Time to change the tune.  Government programs are difficult to change. Indeed, they are the closest thing we have to eternal life on earth. But we have to try. Most importantly, they need to start caring about the people.
 
Marcus Tullius Cicero Was Right.
Don't Be 'Pizz-Off', But This Will Be Hard For Som... (show quote)


Don G.,

thoughtful post, especially the fact that Cicero was eventually beheaded.

Is it a fate that awaits those who have a modicum of integrity?

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Feb 18, 2021 02:57:38   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Kickaha wrote:
Regarding your Harry Truman quote, he was the last president to not use the office for self-betterment until Trump. When President Truman left the White House, he and Bess packed their car and drove home to Missouri. It was after he left office that Congress approved pensions for former President's, as they felt it was a disgrace that the former head of the country was left essentially penniless from his service.


Kickaha, don't forget the JFK who allowed the federal public servants to unionize, thus laying the foundation to a "deep state".

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