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Feb 2, 2021 08:36:43   #
thebigp
 
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police" cost Democrats seats in the House
Washington — As Democrats reckon with losing seats in the House of Representatives after predicting their majority in the upper chamber would grow this e******n, Louisiana Congressman Cedric Richmond, a Democrat, said Sunday that slogans such as "defund the police" ultimately hurt the party.
"Some titles hurt," Richmond said in an interview on "Face the Nation." "'Defunding the police' is a title that hurts Democrats, especially when the fact of the matter is nobody is calling for defunding the police. We're calling for reinventing how we police communities in this country, how we do criminal justice."
Richmond was asked about complaints made by moderate Democrats during a heated call with Democratic leaders last week, the details of which were leaked to members of the press. Some House members who narrowly won their districts spoke of how messages like "defund the police," pushed by progressive lawmakers in the caucus, damaged their campaigns and cost vulnerable freshmen their seats.
The Louisiana Democrat, who is a co-chair of the Biden campaign, said the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is "very important" to the party, but noted "no matter how progressive your ideals and values are and what you want to do and how bold your plans are, if we don't win, if we don't keep the majority of the house, you cannot implement any of those plans."
"We have to make sure we can win first and govern second," he said.
Richmond added that "words have consequences."
"In this e******n, those words cost us some Democratic members," he said.
West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat, also lamented how the positions pushed by the progressive wing of the party hurt his colleagues in the House and said Democrats allowed their Republican opponents to cast them as "socialists" even though "that's not who we are and it's not what we're about."
Claims from the GOP that Democrats would push socialist policies, he said, "basically scared the bejesus out of people."
"I have fought against that. Joe Biden has fought against that," Manchin said. "We're not for New Green Deal. We're not for all the things that he's talked about, Medicare for all. We can't even pay for Medicare for some. We've got to take care of a lot of things."
Looking ahead to the next Congress, Manchin said Democrats need to govern from the "moderate middle," and expected Mr. Biden will work to foster bipartisanship with Republicans in the Senate.
"I would encourage all Democrats to be moderate, find the middle if you can," he said. "We're not going to be able to govern from the extremes or from the fringes. Never have been."
Democrats controlled 232 House (NOW AT D-211,R-221,V-3)seats in the 116h Congress, and while they are likely to maintain a majority in the House, they will do so with fewer members. Control of the Senate, meanwhile, hangs in the balance as two races in Georgia are likely headed to runoff e******ns.
While Richmond acknowledged the impact rhetoric pushed by progressives had on the larger party, he said he believes House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should retain her position. The California Democrat asked her colleagues in a letter Friday to support her bid for speaker in January.

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Feb 2, 2021 08:39:38   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
thebigp wrote:
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police" cost Democrats seats in the House
Washington — As Democrats reckon with losing seats in the House of Representatives after predicting their majority in the upper chamber would grow this e******n, Louisiana Congressman Cedric Richmond, a Democrat, said Sunday that slogans such as "defund the police" ultimately hurt the party.
"Some titles hurt," Richmond said in an interview on "Face the Nation." "'Defunding the police' is a title that hurts Democrats, especially when the fact of the matter is nobody is calling for defunding the police. We're calling for reinventing how we police communities in this country, how we do criminal justice."
Richmond was asked about complaints made by moderate Democrats during a heated call with Democratic leaders last week, the details of which were leaked to members of the press. Some House members who narrowly won their districts spoke of how messages like "defund the police," pushed by progressive lawmakers in the caucus, damaged their campaigns and cost vulnerable freshmen their seats.
The Louisiana Democrat, who is a co-chair of the Biden campaign, said the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is "very important" to the party, but noted "no matter how progressive your ideals and values are and what you want to do and how bold your plans are, if we don't win, if we don't keep the majority of the house, you cannot implement any of those plans."
"We have to make sure we can win first and govern second," he said.
Richmond added that "words have consequences."
"In this e******n, those words cost us some Democratic members," he said.
West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat, also lamented how the positions pushed by the progressive wing of the party hurt his colleagues in the House and said Democrats allowed their Republican opponents to cast them as "socialists" even though "that's not who we are and it's not what we're about."
Claims from the GOP that Democrats would push socialist policies, he said, "basically scared the bejesus out of people."
"I have fought against that. Joe Biden has fought against that," Manchin said. "We're not for New Green Deal. We're not for all the things that he's talked about, Medicare for all. We can't even pay for Medicare for some. We've got to take care of a lot of things."
Looking ahead to the next Congress, Manchin said Democrats need to govern from the "moderate middle," and expected Mr. Biden will work to foster bipartisanship with Republicans in the Senate.
"I would encourage all Democrats to be moderate, find the middle if you can," he said. "We're not going to be able to govern from the extremes or from the fringes. Never have been."
Democrats controlled 232 House (NOW AT D-211,R-221,V-3)seats in the 116h Congress, and while they are likely to maintain a majority in the House, they will do so with fewer members. Control of the Senate, meanwhile, hangs in the balance as two races in Georgia are likely headed to runoff e******ns.
While Richmond acknowledged the impact rhetoric pushed by progressives had on the larger party, he said he believes House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should retain her position. The California Democrat asked her colleagues in a letter Friday to support her bid for speaker in January.
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police"... (show quote)


Defunding police makes as much sense as trickle down economics.

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Feb 2, 2021 08:52:32   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
thebigp wrote:
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police" cost Democrats seats in the House
Washington — As Democrats reckon with losing seats in the House of Representatives after predicting their majority in the upper chamber would grow this e******n, Louisiana Congressman Cedric Richmond, a Democrat, said Sunday that slogans such as "defund the police" ultimately hurt the party.
"Some titles hurt," Richmond said in an interview on "Face the Nation." "'Defunding the police' is a title that hurts Democrats, especially when the fact of the matter is nobody is calling for defunding the police. We're calling for reinventing how we police communities in this country, how we do criminal justice."
Richmond was asked about complaints made by moderate Democrats during a heated call with Democratic leaders last week, the details of which were leaked to members of the press. Some House members who narrowly won their districts spoke of how messages like "defund the police," pushed by progressive lawmakers in the caucus, damaged their campaigns and cost vulnerable freshmen their seats.
The Louisiana Democrat, who is a co-chair of the Biden campaign, said the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is "very important" to the party, but noted "no matter how progressive your ideals and values are and what you want to do and how bold your plans are, if we don't win, if we don't keep the majority of the house, you cannot implement any of those plans."
"We have to make sure we can win first and govern second," he said.
Richmond added that "words have consequences."
"In this e******n, those words cost us some Democratic members," he said.
West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat, also lamented how the positions pushed by the progressive wing of the party hurt his colleagues in the House and said Democrats allowed their Republican opponents to cast them as "socialists" even though "that's not who we are and it's not what we're about."
Claims from the GOP that Democrats would push socialist policies, he said, "basically scared the bejesus out of people."
"I have fought against that. Joe Biden has fought against that," Manchin said. "We're not for New Green Deal. We're not for all the things that he's talked about, Medicare for all. We can't even pay for Medicare for some. We've got to take care of a lot of things."
Looking ahead to the next Congress, Manchin said Democrats need to govern from the "moderate middle," and expected Mr. Biden will work to foster bipartisanship with Republicans in the Senate.
"I would encourage all Democrats to be moderate, find the middle if you can," he said. "We're not going to be able to govern from the extremes or from the fringes. Never have been."
Democrats controlled 232 House (NOW AT D-211,R-221,V-3)seats in the 116h Congress, and while they are likely to maintain a majority in the House, they will do so with fewer members. Control of the Senate, meanwhile, hangs in the balance as two races in Georgia are likely headed to runoff e******ns.
While Richmond acknowledged the impact rhetoric pushed by progressives had on the larger party, he said he believes House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should retain her position. The California Democrat asked her colleagues in a letter Friday to support her bid for speaker in January.
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police"... (show quote)


I say defund the Billionaires and Trillionaires !

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Feb 2, 2021 08:53:10   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
thebigp wrote:
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police" cost Democrats seats in the House
Washington — As Democrats reckon with losing seats in the House of Representatives after predicting their majority in the upper chamber would grow this e******n, Louisiana Congressman Cedric Richmond, a Democrat, said Sunday that slogans such as "defund the police" ultimately hurt the party.
"Some titles hurt," Richmond said in an interview on "Face the Nation." "'Defunding the police' is a title that hurts Democrats, especially when the fact of the matter is nobody is calling for defunding the police. We're calling for reinventing how we police communities in this country, how we do criminal justice."
Richmond was asked about complaints made by moderate Democrats during a heated call with Democratic leaders last week, the details of which were leaked to members of the press. Some House members who narrowly won their districts spoke of how messages like "defund the police," pushed by progressive lawmakers in the caucus, damaged their campaigns and cost vulnerable freshmen their seats.
The Louisiana Democrat, who is a co-chair of the Biden campaign, said the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is "very important" to the party, but noted "no matter how progressive your ideals and values are and what you want to do and how bold your plans are, if we don't win, if we don't keep the majority of the house, you cannot implement any of those plans."
"We have to make sure we can win first and govern second," he said.
Richmond added that "words have consequences."
"In this e******n, those words cost us some Democratic members," he said.
West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat, also lamented how the positions pushed by the progressive wing of the party hurt his colleagues in the House and said Democrats allowed their Republican opponents to cast them as "socialists" even though "that's not who we are and it's not what we're about."
Claims from the GOP that Democrats would push socialist policies, he said, "basically scared the bejesus out of people."
"I have fought against that. Joe Biden has fought against that," Manchin said. "We're not for New Green Deal. We're not for all the things that he's talked about, Medicare for all. We can't even pay for Medicare for some. We've got to take care of a lot of things."
Looking ahead to the next Congress, Manchin said Democrats need to govern from the "moderate middle," and expected Mr. Biden will work to foster bipartisanship with Republicans in the Senate.
"I would encourage all Democrats to be moderate, find the middle if you can," he said. "We're not going to be able to govern from the extremes or from the fringes. Never have been."
Democrats controlled 232 House (NOW AT D-211,R-221,V-3)seats in the 116h Congress, and while they are likely to maintain a majority in the House, they will do so with fewer members. Control of the Senate, meanwhile, hangs in the balance as two races in Georgia are likely headed to runoff e******ns.
While Richmond acknowledged the impact rhetoric pushed by progressives had on the larger party, he said he believes House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should retain her position. The California Democrat asked her colleagues in a letter Friday to support her bid for speaker in January.
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police"... (show quote)


They want to defund police so their comrades can step in! China burning bibles and persecuting Christians ! This should be stopped now! I feel a red dawn coming on! Pray for our country! Make Amerika America again! Oust the thieves!

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Feb 2, 2021 08:53:36   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Defunding police makes as much sense as trickle down economics.


Or cancel culture!

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Feb 2, 2021 09:11:39   #
SWMBO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I say defund the Billionaires and Trillionaires !


Apparently you believe that no one should be allowed to have more than a given amount, (perhaps 1 million dollars) and that the rest of their wealth must be taken by the government (as long as they are Democrats). However you are REQUIRED to keep working so other people can have your money. By the way, many studies indicate that Republicans donate a larger percentage of their money to money to good charities, such as the Salvation Army, than do Democrats.

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Feb 2, 2021 09:39:18   #
hdjimv Loc: South Dakota
 
thebigp wrote:
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police" cost Democrats seats in the House
Washington — As Democrats reckon with losing seats in the House of Representatives after predicting their majority in the upper chamber would grow this e******n, Louisiana Congressman Cedric Richmond, a Democrat, said Sunday that slogans such as "defund the police" ultimately hurt the party.
"Some titles hurt," Richmond said in an interview on "Face the Nation." "'Defunding the police' is a title that hurts Democrats, especially when the fact of the matter is nobody is calling for defunding the police. We're calling for reinventing how we police communities in this country, how we do criminal justice."
Richmond was asked about complaints made by moderate Democrats during a heated call with Democratic leaders last week, the details of which were leaked to members of the press. Some House members who narrowly won their districts spoke of how messages like "defund the police," pushed by progressive lawmakers in the caucus, damaged their campaigns and cost vulnerable freshmen their seats.
The Louisiana Democrat, who is a co-chair of the Biden campaign, said the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is "very important" to the party, but noted "no matter how progressive your ideals and values are and what you want to do and how bold your plans are, if we don't win, if we don't keep the majority of the house, you cannot implement any of those plans."
"We have to make sure we can win first and govern second," he said.
Richmond added that "words have consequences."
"In this e******n, those words cost us some Democratic members," he said.
West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat, also lamented how the positions pushed by the progressive wing of the party hurt his colleagues in the House and said Democrats allowed their Republican opponents to cast them as "socialists" even though "that's not who we are and it's not what we're about."
Claims from the GOP that Democrats would push socialist policies, he said, "basically scared the bejesus out of people."
"I have fought against that. Joe Biden has fought against that," Manchin said. "We're not for New Green Deal. We're not for all the things that he's talked about, Medicare for all. We can't even pay for Medicare for some. We've got to take care of a lot of things."
Looking ahead to the next Congress, Manchin said Democrats need to govern from the "moderate middle," and expected Mr. Biden will work to foster bipartisanship with Republicans in the Senate.
"I would encourage all Democrats to be moderate, find the middle if you can," he said. "We're not going to be able to govern from the extremes or from the fringes. Never have been."
Democrats controlled 232 House (NOW AT D-211,R-221,V-3)seats in the 116h Congress, and while they are likely to maintain a majority in the House, they will do so with fewer members. Control of the Senate, meanwhile, hangs in the balance as two races in Georgia are likely headed to runoff e******ns.
While Richmond acknowledged the impact rhetoric pushed by progressives had on the larger party, he said he believes House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should retain her position. The California Democrat asked her colleagues in a letter Friday to support her bid for speaker in January.
Cedric Richmond says "defund the police"... (show quote)


"govern", It's just a small word almost hidden a few times in this narrative, but it bothers me more than the rest of it as a whole. They apparently fail to understand that they are there to "represent" us, not "govern" us.

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Feb 2, 2021 09:58:09   #
Liberty Tree
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I say defund the Billionaires and Trillionaires !


Well, your lordship. How much of their own money would you allow them to keep?

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Feb 2, 2021 10:37:51   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
She is pro Islam, anti- American and anti- capitalism. Need know nothing else.
SWMBO wrote:
Apparently you believe that no one should be allowed to have more than a given amount, (perhaps 1 million dollars) and that the rest of their wealth must be taken by the government (as long as they are Democrats). However you are REQUIRED to keep working so other people can have your money. By the way, many studies indicate that Republicans donate a larger percentage of their money to money to good charities, such as the Salvation Army, than do Democrats.

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Feb 3, 2021 06:23:34   #
Big Kahuna
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Defunding police makes as much sense as trickle down economics.


Defending the police makes sense. Voodoo economics, supported by Slo Joe and his Ho, makes no sense.

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Feb 3, 2021 10:23:39   #
meridianlesilie Loc: mars
 
I say the should define the deep state people crooked bastards

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Feb 3, 2021 10:46:30   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I say defund the Billionaires and Trillionaires !


Printing money to send to people is a good way to start defunding the billionaires and trillionaires. However the down side is that all the rest of us are being defunded also. Pretty soon no ones money will be worth anything except as a fire starter.

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Feb 4, 2021 11:19:42   #
Wickedestoldwolf
 
I don't think they should defund the cops. I think they should make it so they do what lawmen did before. Catch robbers, murderers, rapists ect. No more driving around pulling people over for faulty tail lights. Unless you're driving down the road side to side there's no reason to stop you. No more check point bulls**t. I bet if they figured they were only gonna be hired on to hunt down bad guys there wouldn't be so many wanting to hire on. No more tax collection.

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Feb 4, 2021 11:42:05   #
Big Kahuna
 
Wickedestoldwolf wrote:
I don't think they should defund the cops. I think they should make it so they do what lawmen did before. Catch robbers, murderers, rapists ect. No more driving around pulling people over for faulty tail lights. Unless you're driving down the road side to side there's no reason to stop you. No more check point bulls**t. I bet if they figured they were only gonna be hired on to hunt down bad guys there wouldn't be so many wanting to hire on. No more tax collection.


Defend the good cops, defund the criminals. Let's start with our criminal politicians.

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