archie bunker Loc: Texas

Sorry dude, but I won't "buy in" to ANYTHING you have to say. KMA, Bro!

maryjane

If it was actually a good plan, fair to all US citizens, not favoring foreign non-citizens, rational, based on commonsense, clear/specific without loopholes, of course. True conservatives do not operate on emotions, especially not hatred, but on facts/t***h, on the truly best interests of America and Americans, without consideration for foreign non-citizens living in our country.

random3

Some Americans may have felt uneasy 35 years ago when DUI laws, DWI checkpoints, seatbelt laws, and car liability insurance laws were started, but most people felt that the experts must be right.

Pro-police state shows like "COPS" and "America's Most Wanted" were then aired, neighborhood watch groups were formed, "get tough on crime" candidates were elected, and laws allowing mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, and chain gangs were enacted.

Nanny state smoking laws then started appearing.

When 9/11 happened, the Patriot Act was passed, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, k**l switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, k**l lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws were allowed.

Now that the USA is a total police state, Americans are finding out that changing anything is impossible and that freedom is lost forever.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

We are not a total police state yet, but we are moving that way, unfortunately.
Some of the things on your list have gotten significant push back and courts have ruled against them. Others have not gotten as much attention. I was unaware that passports were required for domestic travel. When did this occur?

sabbath Loc: meade co. ky.

i guess you have not read bidens exec. orders!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

He does have a plan, he’s a Defeatist giving up before he’s even started. Course the reason for that is because he doesn’t have a clue what the people around him are putting together... I don’t think he’s much in the loop of anything....

And yes, to answer you, if there was a plan that was actually good, I would get behind it. Like I often said about Trump it isn’t the person, it’s the accomplishments they achieve.

straightUp Loc: California

You'll have to give me an example.

In the meantime...

I'm sure you know, the immaculate side of politics never existed, but I get a very strong impression that as of late, the right, is far more guilty of rhetorical fallacy than the left is.

I'll try to make this explanation quick...

1. The need to mislead people increases with the denial of reality.
2. The reality is that "the many" is getting screwed for the benefit of "the few".
3. The left is illuminating this reality, the right is denying it.

#2 is a reference to how profits are driving actions that are causing harm to people ranging from homelessness to g****l w*****g.

As an example, Trump removed regulations on industry that were there to keep our water supplies clean and he did it so companies can dump their toxic waste directly into our water and save money. But that excuse really won't cut it for the American people, so the right invested in campaigns of misinformation to try and mislead people into thinking toxic waste is not such a big problem and that the regulations would put such a strain on the companies that they would have to cut jobs.

That's just one example.

straightUp Loc: California

Don't listen to your cousin - he obviously hasn't got a clue. No one in American politics has ANY interest in taking away private property. The ONLY people talking about it are the morons on the right getting themselves all worked up over this make-believe Marxist threat. Many of them are the same r****ded drama queens that think the left is trying to take away their hunting rifles.

Get a grip people.

straightUp Loc: California

Absolutely! Our founders gave us a representative democracy so that We the People can help ourselves. That's the way it's supposed to work. I never understood the Trump mentality which is based on the idea that a president is supposed to be this superhero that saves us all.

Obama used to say "Yes, WE can!" That was a tribute to what "We The People" can do. Trump NEVER said "WE" anything... With him it was always "I".., such as when he said "I am the only one that can fix this." Even the post you responded to exposes this mentality...

Liberty Tree wrote: "Americans are going to learn a very hard lesson with Biden policies and false promises."

Meridianlesilie wrote: "If trump don't come and rescue us you're right."

Perhaps that's why you mentioned it... the fact that as an American people we are responsible for our own destiny. In any case, relying on someone like Trump to save America seems about the dumbest idea I've heard in my adult life.

newbear Loc: New York City

CanuckusDeploracus,

mind your Chinese business and leave America to Americans.

We are no longer a free country, so I advise you to be very careful, or the Man will come around.

Better stick to your "wechat' haunt where your presence is greatly appreciated.

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert

Ever hear that chant"Yes We Can!" backwards? It's worth a listen.
Google it sometime.