JW

Now that is a d********g thought, isn't it. So Why do you let someone filter your information for you?

I spent a couple of hours tonight watching CNBC and MSNBC. Not once in that whole time did either of the channels present an objective statement. Everything they presented included a prefabricated opinion attached to what they regurgitated.

Should we determine for ourselves if a claim is baseless or just accept the presenter's word that the claim is baseless.

Should we determine for ourselves if the statement is true or false or just accept the presenter's word that it is false.

Neatly packaged opinions masquerading as news is a sad state of affairs and a gateway to despotism. If two sides do it, it only widens the divide. If you find only one opinion on all of the channels, welcome to 1933.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

It would be nice if they would tell us why the claim is baseless or false, rather than because I said so. I didn't buy that when my parents said that to me as a kid, why would I accept that from some talking head. Of course, my parents did send me to my room for that on occasion.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

You can either look at the data yourself, or have someone tell you what it is and what it means. How many people believed the e******ns were r****d against trump.............................simply because HE told them it was? Barr found no significant e******n f***d, States found no significant e******n f***d, courts found no significant e******n f***d - and yet - millions of people still think there was........................because trump said so. Who's chewing YOUR food for you?

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

I've looked at the results of the forensic analysis of the D******n machines, the testing of a couple of the D******n machines in Georgia and the reluctance of D******n and other e******n jurisdictions to allow D******n machines to be inspected. It makes me wonder if there is a problem inherent in these machines. Also these machines are not supposed to be able to connect to the internet and there were reports that they had active Wi-Fi signals on e******n night. Then there was Jovan Pulitzer testifying to a Georgia committee while associates of his connected remotely to a D******n machine that was being tested in a different county. It only took them a couple of minutes to access the machine. I'm not saying this or the mail in b****ts that some have questioned caused enough fraud to change the e******n results. There is also the historically low rate of rejected b****ts that could cause some to think that something funny was going on. These are all things that need to be examined to determine how much fraud (or in the case of the v****g machines, how inaccurate they were) occurred in the e******n and how to increase security to prevent this situation from occurring again. Any one who insist that there was NO fraud, is lying. There had been fraud in every e******n, the only question is how much occurred.

JW

Chewing my food? I am!

When you ingest information, two factors need to be considered; the information itself and the motive of the presenter. If the presenter uses words like fantastic or baseless, you are getting opinion, not information. Motive is also being disclosed. When motive is obvious, chew carefully before swallowing.

There are several reasons for suspecting v***r f***d that have nothing to do with anything Trump said. 1) Trump was leading in the swing states when the polls closed, by hundreds of thousands of v**es. Suddenly, they all experienced problems forcing them to stop counting. That has never happened before. All of them then showed sudden spikes in the v****g with 90% to 100% v**es for Biden. 2) The swing states, all of them, either changed their requirements for signature verification, ignored verification or ignored their own constitutional requirements for v****g. 3) The swing states, all of them, prevented Republican observers from any meaningful observation. 4) The swing states show higher v**e totals in black neighborhoods for Biden than they had for Obama.

There are many more peculiarities in the v****g and v**e processing in those states that indicate a closer look is required.

Was there c***ting, my conclusion is yes. Could I be wrong, again yes, but we deserve to know for certain so a closer look, not another count, is warranted. Unfortunately, the people running the local e******ns are denying all access to the original data. That it the biggest reason to expect fraud.

JW

When they offer us their conclusions as in baseless and false, they are giving opinions, not news.

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

You forgot that to add the Pennsylvania v**er totals don't equal the total number of b****ts counted. Pennsylvania showed 200,000 more b****ts counted than v**ers counted. That is more than the difference between Biden and Trump. It at least gives the appearance of fraud and should be inspected to determine why the two counts don't match. There is also the big rush to clear the machines and destroy the b****ts. There is a federal e******n law that states all e******n data, b****ts and electronic records, must be preserved for 22 months following an e******n. Anyone destroying these records should be prosecuted and, if found guilty, should receive the maximum penalty.

JW

You are right.

roy

If trump told you there was no v***r f***d ,you wouldn't even believe him.

JW

That is correct. https://newrightnetwork.com/2020/12/bombshell-georgia-d******n-v****g-machine-shows-weighted-v**e-counting.html/

Why would a v****g machine have the ability, noted in their own operator manual, to count v**es as 1.3 v**es or .7 v**es? Shouldn't one v**e be counted as 1 v**e?

Godsncotrl

Because they are g*******t they know what they did thats why they all refuse to look into it please wake up fraud was eveywhere there no blinder person than the one who refuses to see.