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Jan 16, 2021 20:01:59   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
vernon wrote:
When I hear the name Trump I think of the best president in my life time. But rest assured you will be reminded of how it was and it will be compared to the crap these dummys will come up with.


Best president in your lifetime? What exactly does that say? Kinda' makes me wonder how old you are (I've no idea and have no need to know) because I'm 57 and have yet to see one single president that I would even consider to be a "good" president. Reagan maybe, I suppose, but that is it. And that is just wrong. I'm 57 and I have never seen a good president. Let that sink in for a sec. Seems impossible, right? Know what's way worse? From what I've seen thus far, I don't expect to EVER see a good president in my lifetime. Let that one sink in too. Pretty sad/bad.

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Jan 16, 2021 20:42:30   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Zenbeauty wrote:
I do know that Trump owes approximately $413 million to creditors like Deutsche Bank for three properties he financed. These high end hotels have been hit hard during C***D and are not generating the revenue necessary to pay the debts. He had considerable assets but he usually doesn't sell properties or assets, he keeps them. Here's a Washington Post podcast discussing what's next for Trump especially financially.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/can-he-do-that/whats-next-for-trump/
I do know that Trump owes approximately $413 milli... (show quote)


I read yesterday that he owes another bank 360 million. Crazy.

By the way, I just noticed that you just joined OPP. Welcome. I've enjoyed everything I've read from you thus far. We can use all the sanity we can get!

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Jan 16, 2021 20:59:49   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
GoCubs wrote:
Best president in your lifetime? What exactly does that say? Kinda' makes me wonder how old you are (I've no idea and have no need to know) because I'm 57 and have yet to see one single president that I would even consider to be a "good" president. Reagan maybe, I suppose, but that is it. And that is just wrong. I'm 57 and I have never seen a good president. Let that sink in for a sec. Seems impossible, right? Know what's way worse? From what I've seen thus far, I don't expect to EVER see a good president in my lifetime. Let that one sink in too. Pretty sad/bad.
Best president in your lifetime? What exactly does... (show quote)

You may be 57 chronologically but you have the mind of a two year old.

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Jan 16, 2021 21:02:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
GoCubs wrote:
Hey CD, out of those supposed billions he has (if you deduct what he owes from his assets, I'm pretty sure he is pretty much dead broke), how much of it do you think he "earned" in an honest manner? Also, do you think that what he has done since being elected is "pretty cool" too?
Cheers, bro.

Billions are billions... And without his taxes you don't know what he has or what he owes... You do know that he's built clubs and towers all over the world...

Yeah... Some of what he's done has been pretty cool... Dialogue with Noko... Moving the embassy... Stimulating employment... Pushing for better trade deals... Enforcing border security... Three good picks for the SCOTUS (even you have to be happy with how they're conducting themselves)... I like how he's handled NATO too... And dropping the Paris Agreement...

He's disappointed me on education and ending the ME conflicts... But considering who he chose for SecEd and his connections with Israel, I'm not overly surprised... Don't think I need to give my opinion concerning c***d... And he's lost ground with the UN... Although Nikki Haley was a great pick...

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Jan 16, 2021 21:15:32   #
SSDD
 
JW wrote:
I think of those like you, unable to discern fact from fiction, mindless little automatons, stumbling from lie to lie, never once bothering to test your own convictions. A sad cadre of robots, clanking and grinding to the rhythm of a silent drum beat only you and yours can hear, managing nothing more than spitting out inane slogans programmed into your mechanical brains.

How's that? A better level of insult?


Okay then, illuminate us, what ARE the facts that we have missed? What do these supposed "declassified documents" show? Here is your opportunity to "educate" we "simpletons". Give it your best shot, fair warning, CTs and propaganda will be ignored.

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Jan 16, 2021 21:20:16   #
Zenbeauty Loc: Live Free or Die
 
GoCubs wrote:
I read yesterday that he owes another bank 360 million. Crazy.

By the way, I just noticed that you just joined OPP. Welcome. I've enjoyed everything I've read from you thus far. We can use all the sanity we can get!


Thanks, GoCubs! It's very nice to be here. Sounds like we're on the same team.

I know he's losing endorsements each day. Lost the PGA tour at one of his golf clubs, the Girl Scouts are leaving one of his rented spaces, he's no longer able to finance future properties with Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Coca-Cola, Ford, Comcast, Marr**tt, American Express, AT&T, JPMorgan Chase, Dow, American Airlines all stopped donations, Stripe and Spotify have cut times, as well. Here's the article that also discusses how other GOP politicians are feeling corporate America back off on supporting their campaigns, as well.

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2021/01/11/corporate-america-backs-away-from-trump-gop-5/

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Jan 16, 2021 21:23:10   #
Rose42
 
SSDD wrote:
Okay then, illuminate us, what ARE the facts that we have missed? What do these supposed "declassified documents" show? Here is your opportunity to "educate" we "simpletons". Give it your best shot, fair warning, CTs and propaganda will be ignored.


Why don’t you use a search engine and look for yourself? It may or may not amount to something.

Don’t pretend you ignore propaganda either. You have shared it often.

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Jan 17, 2021 00:21:58   #
JW
 
SSDD wrote:
Okay then, illuminate us, what ARE the facts that we have missed? What do these supposed "declassified documents" show? Here is your opportunity to "educate" we "simpletons". Give it your best shot, fair warning, CTs and propaganda will be ignored.


Let's look at the most egregious lie propagated about President Trump, that he colluded with Russia. The documents show that no such thing ever occurred. Steele says straight out that he created the so-called dossier because Hillary was getting pounded for her email scandal and he wanted something to distract the press from it. Further, the documents show that the FBI and the DoJ knew exactly what Steele had done and knew it was a false charge against Trump.

In spite of the full awareness of the counterfeit nature of the charges, they still got FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. They allowed a Special Prosecutor to spend $35 million dollars of American taxpayers' money and spread lies in an attempt to discredit the lawfully elected President of the USA.

In other words, everything Trump charged them with was factually correct and the authorities pushing his prosecution knew it from day one.

It's all there, and a lot more, in the FBI and DoJ own words written by their own people.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=newly+delcassified+documents&form=ANNTH1&refig=56d574c6218640a98282a33b2465d5c8&sp=-1&pq=newly+delcassified+documents&sc=2-28&qs=n&sk=&cvid=56d574c6218640a98282a33b2465d5c8

Take your pick! The link will open a whole new world for you.

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Jan 17, 2021 00:46:47   #
JW
 
Parky60 wrote:
You may be 57 chronologically but you have the mind of a two year old.


I agree with him and I will spot you 50 IQ points and still come out higher than you could ever dream of.

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Jan 17, 2021 01:56:14   #
SSDD
 
JW wrote:
Supporting him demonstrates an ability to absorb information, distinguish fact from fiction and reach a valid conclusion.

You certainly don't have an obligation to support him but you and those like you most assuredly do have an obligation to the t***h. Believe me, nothing I have seen your side post in four years indicates any such capacity.


That is because you irrationally think Trump tells the t***h and that the fringe RW media does as well. It is your irrationality that blinds you to the t***h. Trump claims to be a very stable genius yet his words and actions prove otherwise and yet you believe his words over all of the evidence to the contrary. Perhaps once his corrupting presence is diminished, you will come to the realization that you backed a buffoon but I rather think that will not be the case. I believe that your irrationality will convince you that there is still a plot afoot to quell him even long after his corrupting influence is long gone.

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Jan 17, 2021 01:57:50   #
SSDD
 
PeterS wrote:
snip>>>He added that the outgoing Trump administration has recently been on “steroids” with regard to its global strategic policy, and a lot of it is “simply meant to complicate life for President-elect Joe Biden”.

If there is more than Trump is a vindictive ass why don't you post a link so we can read for ourselves...


It is all lies and speculation and nothing more.

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Jan 17, 2021 02:28:48   #
SSDD
 
Zenbeauty wrote:
Am I ok with a f********t e******n?! Of course not! Am I ok with 6 dead after Americans stormed the Capital wanting to k**l politicians? Of course not! Am I ok with almost 400,000 Americans dead due to an out of control p******c? Absolutely not! I’m not ok with any of it. None of us are ok. But we cannot be at each other’s throats. We’ll never heal as a nation and we desperately need to heal. Please do me a favor? Please say a prayer for Trump, his military leadership, the politicians concerned about violence, the American people who are so divided and suffering in so many ways. Please take a moment to see that we will all be alright if we just stop hating.
I agree with the advice that you should find a more moderate Republican to support. There are many and hopefully it will be one who will help bridge the divide. Better yet, study libertarianism. It’s a kinder, gentler ideology. Your commitment deserves to be supported by a strong belief in individual freedoms. Wishing you peace, JW.
Am I ok with a f********t e******n?! Of course not... (show quote)


Several Libertarians I know in "the real world" and several right here on OPP might cause one to question your assertion that Libertarianism is a "kinder gentler ideology". Of course the ones here, the ones we have all seen and heard from, they are obviously NOT Libertarian at all, at least the Trumplicans that claim to be Libertarians. Of the ones I met in the real world, outside of the internet, many of them that claim to be Libertarian, they DO appear to have adopted some portions of the Libertarian ideology but they also tend to be far too wrapped up into several "conservativisms", such as being easily drawn into insane CTs, paranoid delusions and tend to be somewhat "m*****a-minded survivalists" that seem drawn towards living "off the grid". All of those traits of "conservativism" can cause one to be... Not quite so kind nor so gentle. ALL of those traits can create fear and/or paranoia in anyone so inflicted with any one of those "traits". Fear and/or paranoia tends to manifest in a distrust of others and that could, and generally does, cause one to act out when they perceive a threat, real or imagined. Of course I am sure there MUST be some "saner" Libertarians, but IF I have met them, I never knew that they were Libertarians.

I will admit, I do favor certain portions of their claimed ideology. I just kind of shy away when they start talking "a bit crazy". I also favor some of the claimed ideology of the Republican party and the Democrat party. This is why I refuse to pick a party.

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Jan 17, 2021 02:33:03   #
SSDD
 
eden wrote:
I agree we all have an obligation to the t***h. I simply haven’t seen a scintilla of t***h come from this man’s mouth since well before he ran. And no it’s not a personal dislike, he just can’t seem to be honest about anything.


Agreed, even inconsequential minutia seem to defy Trump's ability to ever tell the t***h. If one can't even be honest where it comes to something of no real importance, how can one EVER expect the t***h on the issues of great importance?

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Jan 17, 2021 02:40:25   #
JW
 
SSDD wrote:
Agreed, even inconsequential minutia seem to defy Trump's ability to ever tell the t***h. If one can't even be honest where it comes to something of no real importance, how can one EVER expect the t***h on the issues of great importance?


Remember that when the t***h is finally fully disclosed.

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Jan 17, 2021 02:56:31   #
SSDD
 
JW wrote:
Remember that when the t***h is finally fully disclosed.


If you say so, oh demented one. You do know that fretting irrational, unfounded "boogeymen" has no beneficial effects right?

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