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Aug 13, 2014 01:56:17   #
grace scott
 
In the upcoming e******n, choose your candidate wisely. The candidate I v**ed into office is the one I hope is v**ed out in November. Are you in the same situation?

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Aug 13, 2014 04:52:18   #
rjoeholl
 
No it isn't. I v**ed wisely the first time.
grace scott wrote:
In the upcoming e******n, choose your candidate wisely. The candidate I v**ed into office is the one I hope is v**ed out in November. Are you in the same situation?

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Aug 13, 2014 05:37:00   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
rjoeholl wrote:
No it isn't. I v**ed wisely the first time.


I'm glad it ended well for you. :wink: It did not for me, but it was because I chose "not" to v**e for the local contingency at all. The incumbent, awful, his opposition, worse. Yes, apathy won out. I live in a rural area and politics seem to all be worked out "in the back room." If I were 10 years younger, I would have considered running for office. Although, health issues for me are rather front and center these days, I know that I should become more involved, but part of my problem is that I don't particularly care for what either party stands for, and the independents that I have followed, when there has been one, seem to not know exactly what they stand for, and if they don't know...

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Aug 13, 2014 07:27:14   #
Homestead
 
Searching wrote:
I'm glad it ended well for you. :wink: It did not for me, but it was because I chose "not" to v**e for the local contingency at all. The incumbent, awful, his opposition, worse. Yes, apathy won out. I live in a rural area and politics seem to all be worked out "in the back room." If I were 10 years younger, I would have considered running for office. Although, health issues for me are rather front and center these days, I know that I should become more involved, but part of my problem is that I don't particularly care for what either party stands for, and the independents that I have followed, when there has been one, seem to not know exactly what they stand for, and if they don't know...
I'm glad it ended well for you. :wink: It did no... (show quote)


As an American citizen, your supposed to be looking around you, for the person you want to represent you. Then you get that person to run and helph him get elected.

Your not supposed to sit around and let other people chose who your going to v**e for. That never ends well.

When you let others chose who your going to v**e for, do you think that they are thinking of your well being or themselves?


The first to links talk about how our government was set up for the citizens and self rule.

The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 1
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/content/true-business-precincts-part-1

The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 2
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/content/true-business-precincts-part-2



The link below is to an actual web site that is dedicated to linking all the 3,000 precincts across the country together. The purpose is to give individual citizens a powerful political tool they can use themselves to become more affective.

The question is, how to best use it and will the public even bother to try?

Welcome to United Precincts of America!
Are you ready to accept the challenge and be American?
The U.S. Constitution is irrelevant without the means of enforcement. The means of enforcement is the Precinct Strategy... the True Business of the Precincts. The Enforcer..? We the People! ― Phil Glass
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/


Freedom is not free and it is not easy.

Americans have gotten out of the habit of exercising their civic duties and have let the country run on auto pilot, only participating at the last minute, in things like v****g in e******ns.

The v**e, is the last step in a Representative Constitutional Republic, not the first.

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Aug 13, 2014 07:34:48   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
Homestead wrote:
As an American citizen, your supposed to be looking around you, for the person you want to represent you. Then you get that person to run and helph him get elected.

Your not supposed to sit around and let other people chose who your going to v**e for. That never ends well.

When you let others chose who your going to v**e for, do you think that they are thinking of your well being or themselves?


The first to links talk about how our government was set up for the citizens and self rule.

The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 1
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/content/true-business-precincts-part-1

The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 2
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/content/true-business-precincts-part-2



The link below is to an actual web site that is dedicated to linking all the 3,000 precincts across the country together. The purpose is to give individual citizens a powerful political tool they can use themselves to become more affective.

The question is, how to best use it and will the public even bother to try?

Welcome to United Precincts of America!
Are you ready to accept the challenge and be American?
The U.S. Constitution is irrelevant without the means of enforcement. The means of enforcement is the Precinct Strategy... the True Business of the Precincts. The Enforcer..? We the People! ― Phil Glass
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/


Freedom is not free and it is not easy.

Americans have gotten out of the habit of exercising their civic duties and have let the country run on auto pilot, only participating at the last minute, in things like v****g in e******ns.

The v**e, is the last step in a Representative Constitutional Republic, not the first.
As an American citizen, your supposed to be lookin... (show quote)



Thank you for the links!! I shall put them to use. I am, though, rather jaded, having been involved with politics when I lived in MD. I shall, however, take a serious look at what you have provided because in my heart I know that when apathy wins, only bad consequences can follow.

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Aug 13, 2014 08:11:59   #
Patty
 
It is the elitist power brokers who have chosen and g***med their puppets from way back in their college years. By pretending that the v**ers are in charge they install the legislation that they want. No none backed candidate will ever be elected due to the bought off media and lobbists. They are expendable and can be sacrificed to push an unpopular piece of legislation that they know is bad for the people but through profit or coercion they get passed what the generational elitists want to go through. There are no exceptions to this game. Party affiliation is of no concern to them and will use puppets from both side of the tracks.
It is always the same agenda and always the samw group who are in power.

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Aug 13, 2014 08:51:48   #
Homestead
 
Searching wrote:
Thank you for the links!! I shall put them to use. I am, though, rather jaded, having been involved with politics when I lived in MD. I shall, however, take a serious look at what you have provided because in my heart I know that when apathy wins, only bad consequences can follow.


Remember, politics starts at you kitchen table. Then your neighbours, then the neighbourhood.

We need to get back to the time of our forefathers, they were the leaders of their own coalitions.

This is what we as citizens are not doing and this is what's going to take the greatest effort on our part to re-establish.

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Aug 13, 2014 08:52:53   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Patty wrote:
It is the elitist power brokers who have chosen and g***med their puppets from way back in their college years. By pretending that the v**ers are in charge they install the legislation that they want. No none backed candidate will ever be elected due to the bought off media and lobbists. They are expendable and can be sacrificed to push an unpopular piece of legislation that they know is bad for the people but through profit or coercion they get passed what the generational elitists want to go through. There are no exceptions to this game. Party affiliation is of no concern to them and will use puppets from both side of the tracks.
It is always the same agenda and always the samw group who are in power.
It is the elitist power brokers who have chosen an... (show quote)


It certainly is the case anymore, no matter who gets in or how, right or left, they seem to screw us one way or another

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Aug 13, 2014 09:03:30   #
Patty
 
I think Ron Paul is the only one I can think of that wasn't bought off by the bank cartel. I loved when he grilled Bernanke with the ounce of silver he had in his hand.
With the federal reserve having complete secrecy against any government agency or Congress the country is run by the bank cartel.
In 2008 they were able to "print" 16 trillion dollars for bail outs of foreign banks without any scrutiny of congress what so ever. Our government is just a puppet system, military tool for the international banks to use globally. The US is no longer a sovereign country.


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ron+paul+grills+bernanke+silver+youtube&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=ron+paul+grills+bernanke+silver+youtube&sc=0-32&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=4D332A06F88EA58EAD244D332A06F88EA58EAD24
the waker wrote:
It certainly is the case anymore, no matter who gets in or how, right or left, they seem to screw us one way or another

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Aug 13, 2014 09:15:57   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
Patty wrote:
I think Ron Paul is the only one I can think of that wasn't bought off by the bank cartel. I loved when he grilled Bernanke with the ounce of silver he had in his hand.
With the federal reserve having complete secrecy against any government agency or Congress the country is run by the bank cartel.
In 2008 they were able to "print" 16 trillion dollars for bail outs of foreign banks without any scrutiny of congress what so ever. Our government is just a puppet system, military tool for the international banks to use globally. The US is no longer a sovereign country.


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ron+paul+grills+bernanke+silver+youtube&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=ron+paul+grills+bernanke+silver+youtube&sc=0-32&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=4D332A06F88EA58EAD244D332A06F88EA58EAD24
I think Ron Paul is the only one I can think of th... (show quote)


Atleast they're keeping silver and gold down to where we can stock up.
Now how so you feel about his son Rand?
I could be swayed if he takes on Dr Carson as a running mate.

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Aug 13, 2014 09:32:13   #
Patty
 
I agree. Rand did something that surprised me and honestly I cant find it at the moment but it was something I thought was uncharacteristic for a constitutionalist.
the waker wrote:
Atleast they're keeping silver and gold down to where we can stock up.
Now how so you feel about his son Rand?
I could be swayed if he takes on Dr Carson as a running mate.

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Aug 13, 2014 09:47:24   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
I did my research, not listening to all the rhetoric, and v**ed my well considered choices. Yes, I am satisfied with my v**es even though some did not make it into office. Maybe this time I can get ALL my studied choices in.

grace scott wrote:
In the upcoming e******n, choose your candidate wisely. The candidate I v**ed into office is the one I hope is v**ed out in November. Are you in the same situation?

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Aug 13, 2014 17:39:39   #
Searching Loc: Rural Southwest VA
 
Homestead wrote:
Remember, politics starts at you kitchen table. Then your neighbours, then the neighbourhood.

We need to get back to the time of our forefathers, they were the leaders of their own coalitions.

This is what we as citizens are not doing and this is what's going to take the greatest effort on our part to re-establish.


Indeed it does start...at my kitchen table...the only problem being is that my neighbors are willing to "accept crumbs"...having no idea they deserve more. It is a fine line I walk, since I am considered an "outsider" by most...and I see a bumper sticker from time to time that states "we don't CARE how you did it up north." I am sensitive to not even remotely intimating that "I have a better way to do things." Personally, I "get it" -- and the arrogance of some is, quite frankly, galling. I am, however, not giving up or giving in. Everyone who knows me understands just how stubborn I am. :wink:

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Aug 13, 2014 18:07:44   #
Homestead
 
Searching wrote:
Indeed it does start...at my kitchen table...the only problem being is that my neighbors are willing to "accept crumbs"...having no idea they deserve more. It is a fine line I walk, since I am considered an "outsider" by most...and I see a bumper sticker from time to time that states "we don't CARE how you did it up north." I am sensitive to not even remotely intimating that "I have a better way to do things." Personally, I "get it" -- and the arrogance of some is, quite frankly, galling. I am, however, not giving up or giving in. Everyone who knows me understands just how stubborn I am. :wink:
Indeed it does start...at my kitchen table...the o... (show quote)


We all know what Donald Rumsfeld meant ,when he talked about force enhancers.
We know that one special forces soldier can do as much damage as 100 regular soldiers.

As citizens we need some political force-enhancers.

The political power in this country is set up around the precincts, the liberal left knows this and has organized themselves around it.

We're not doing this.

If I have a spectacular idea and two hundred thousand people across the country agreed with me, that might t***slate to a couple people in my district. That's not enough to effect a change.

However, if I had twenty people in my district that I could coordinate with, it could change the outcome of a local e******n.
If I could, some-how, coordinate with twenty other people, in another district, it would have a bigger impact and might change a state e******n and so forth.

The question, becomes how?

What tool could be at the disposal of an individual citizen, that would allow him to reach out across his precinct and then reach out across a neighbouring precinct.



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The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 1
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/content/true-business-precincts-part-1

The "True Business of the Precincts" Part 2
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/content/true-business-precincts-part-2



This link is to an actual web site available to the public.
It's purpose is provide a way for individual citizens to organize themselves around their precinct and be able to contact all 3,000 other precincts across the nation.

It is an important tool, we must find ways to use it and do so.

Welcome to United Precincts of America!
Are you ready to accept the challenge and be American?
The U.S. Constitution is irrelevant without the means of enforcement. The means of enforcement is the Precinct Strategy... the True Business of the Precincts. The Enforcer..? We the People! ― Phil Glass
http://www.unitedprecinctsofamerica.org/

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Aug 14, 2014 11:16:37   #
bahmer
 
Patty wrote:
It is the elitist power brokers who have chosen and g***med their puppets from way back in their college years. By pretending that the v**ers are in charge they install the legislation that they want. No none backed candidate will ever be elected due to the bought off media and lobbists. They are expendable and can be sacrificed to push an unpopular piece of legislation that they know is bad for the people but through profit or coercion they get passed what the generational elitists want to go through. There are no exceptions to this game. Party affiliation is of no concern to them and will use puppets from both side of the tracks.
It is always the same agenda and always the samw group who are in power.
It is the elitist power brokers who have chosen an... (show quote)


Amen

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