One World Economy (Page 2): They pay the most taxes, but a smaller percentage than the middle class. They make about 70% of the money in this country and pay about 50% of the taxes.

skott Loc: Bama

Dave wrote:

It isn't clear to me how you conclude what you do. You see something that I'm missing - if the rich are the ones controlling things in America, why are they so generous as to put themselves in the position of paying most of the income taxes? Perhaps they're just generous.

They pay the most taxes, but a smaller percentage than the middle class. They make about 70% of the money in this country and pay about 50% of the taxes.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

skott wrote:

They pay the most taxes, but a smaller percentage than the middle class. They make about 70% of the money in this country and pay about 50% of the taxes.

How does that change my question? If they're in control, why pay so much? Also, if you are going to use the 70% of the money earned you'll need to use far more than 50% of the taxes paid - but either way - why pay if they're in control?

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

skott wrote:

Also, we have never lived in a democracy. If we were, then we would not have a house and senate. If we did, they would both be Democrat controlled. (a million more dems v**ed in the last e******ns than repubs.)

Check out the definition of federalism and representative democracy - and if anyone ever told you America was a pure democracy they did you a serious dis-service.

skott Loc: Bama

Dave wrote:

Check out the definition of federalism and representative democracy - and if anyone ever told you America was a pure democracy they did you a serious dis-service.

People use the word democracy all the time.

skott Loc: Bama

Dave wrote:

How does that change my question? If they're in control, why pay so much? Also, if you are going to use the 70% of the money earned you'll need to use far more than 50% of the taxes paid - but either way - why pay if they're in control?

Because, do you remember the European monarchies that paid no taxes? Especially the French. They learned to pay some, but not their fare share.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

skott wrote:

People use the word democracy all the time.

Just because people use a word does not make the word true. America is not and has never been a democracy - it has been and remains a representative federation.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

skott wrote:

Because, do you remember the European monarchies that paid no taxes? Especially the French. They learned to pay some, but not their fare share.

Paying some is not paying most - and fair share is a very subjective concept. Again, if the rich are in control why are they not paying some instead of most?

skott Loc: Bama

Dave wrote:

Paying some is not paying most - and fair share is a very subjective concept. Again, if the rich are in control why are they not paying some instead of most?

They are as a percentage.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

skott wrote:

They are as a percentage.

Who is what as a percentage of what? Again, why are the rich paying the majority of the income taxes if they have control over the country? Perhaps they are just generous.

Comment Loc: California

skott wrote:

People use the word democracy all the time.

So has every tyrant. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and the likes. When ever power is consolidated in one group or person you have a tyrannical government. No checks, no balances. I you are a Dum rat you may not like that it all the 3 branches are REPUBLICAN as very well may be in the next term.

skott Loc: Bama

Billhuggins wrote:

So has every tyrant. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and the likes. When ever power is consolidated in one group or person you have a tyrannical government. No checks, no balances. I you are a Dum rat you may not like that it all the 3 branches are REPUBLICAN as very well may be in the next term.

You almost cannot get the presidency. There were a million more demo v**ers last e******n than Repubs. Even the new v**er laws wont keep them out. But, you will probably get the senate this term.

Comment Loc: California

skott wrote:

You almost cannot get the presidency. There were a million more demo v**ers last e******n than Repubs. Even the new v**er laws wont keep them out. But, you will probably get the senate this term.

Not all v**ers are Demos and Repubs, Scott. I am not a repub. How many v**ers stayed home? Graves and i******s v**ed democrap. Sorry, but your statement has no merit.

skott Loc: Bama

Billhuggins wrote:

Not all v**ers are Demos and Repubs, Scott. I am not a repub. How many v**ers stayed home? Graves and i******s v**ed democrap. Sorry, but your statement has no merit.

I've heard that plenty, but no proof and no prosecutions. And yes most people do v**e their party affiliation most of the time.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Dave wrote:

It isn't clear to me how you conclude what you do. You see something that I'm missing - if the rich are the ones controlling things in America, why are they so generous as to put themselves in the position of paying most of the income taxes? Perhaps they're just generous.

The tax is is on money. More money more taxes.

If you have a bigger stake in the game (More income) It is only right that you pay more in taxes.

So would you have most people with the most income pay a smaller % in taxes than those with less income.

The is already the case. It depends on how you get your income. Check the tax laws.

Nickolai

Dave wrote:

Just because people use a word does not make the word true. America is not and has never been a democracy - it has been and remains a representative federation.

This is true what modicum of democracy We've attained has had to be fought for and lost several times over. Liberalism and Democracy's latest death occurred 40 years ago And may never regained given the extent of global capitalism