permafrost Loc: Minnesota

thanks be to Slatten..


....Did Trump lose because of his mishandling of C***D, his personality, his failure on health care, or just a general lack of achievements?

Trump, contrary to common right wing media hogwash, hasn’t done much for this country. His mishandling of the C***d19 is simply an extension of his mishandling of every single thing that fell under his jurisdiction. If you take Fox News and Twitter out - meaning take the propaganda machines out of the equation and let the work itself speak; there’s nothing there. Absolutely nothing.

Steel jobs will come back
Coal jobs will come back
I will ban all Muslims from entering the US
I will repeal ACA and replace it with something so cheap and so amazing
The wall, Mexico will build it
Trade wars are so easy to win
We will so much you will be tired of winning

Meanwhile, he spent most of his time golfing and tweeting and watching TV and alienating every single ally we had on the global world stage.

All Trump cult v**ed for Trump because it’s Trump. Not because he did anything for them.

Armed service-men and service-women: demeaned and made fun of;
Veterans: demeaned and made fun of;
R****ts and Xenophobes: applauded, encouraged and front-lined; armed and ready;
King worshippers: found their kings and started their chants;
Evangelicals: sold their souls and started Trump worshipping;

The man divided this country in half; destroyed as many of the Republic’s institutions as he can - though not by himself. For a certain group that was waiting for somebody like Trump to come along like the people wait the second coming of Christ is to be credited for that - Trump was on the train for the v**es and the applause.

C***d19 is a sign of what happens when you act like a fool in 21st century. This is no longer 17th century. Even the people at the turn of 20th century were smarter than the populace that refuses to listen to science and logic and instead go along with rhetoric and foaming around the mouth speeches.

I wonder how many more signs these people are waiting. Frogs to fall from the sky?

Trump lost because more than half this country still believes in the ideals that made this the greatest nation on earth.

The rest can learn from history

"Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America. When America consists of one leader and 158 million followers, it will no longer be America."

― Dwight D. Eisenhower

American Vet

Nope - he achieved a remarkable amount considering the democrats fought every step of the way - MAGA goes against their grain. And he handled C***D as well as possible.


"DR. ANTHONY F***I: Well, we’ve never had a threat like this and the coordinated response has been, there are a number of adjectives to describe it. Impressive, I think is one of them.

I mean, we’re talking about all-hands on-deck is that I, as one of many people on a team, I’m not the only person, since the beginning that we even recognized what this was. I have been dev****g almost full time on this — almost full time.

I’m down at the White House virtually every day with the Taskforce. I’m connected by phone throughout the day and into the night and when I say night, I’m talking twelve, one, two in the morning. I’m not the only one. There’s a whole group of us that are doing that. It’s every single day.

So I can’t imagine that that under any circumstances that anybody could be doing more. I mean, obviously, we’re fighting a formidable enemy — this v***s. This v***s is a serious issue here."
https://redstate.com/slee/2020/10/12/939768-n262161


President Trump’s Accomplishments

1.He recently delivered the best US economy that surpasses the whole countries of the world.

2. US has accomplished the lowest unemployment of 3.5% since 60 years ago.

3. Lowest unemployment for B****s and Hispanics since history. The lowest unemployment for women since history.

4.US salaries and wages have increased between 7% to 8% annually.

5.Despite of that, President Trump's inflation is very low at 2.1% to zero. During Jimmy Carter, averaging 11.3% in 1979, and 13.5% in 1980.

6. President Trump created 6.6 million jobs before the C****-** p******c shut the economy down. The new jobs his policies created represented a 4.3% increase over the 152.2 million people working at the end of Obama's term.7.The USMCA will deliver more workers for the Americans specially those in car industries.

8.The president sealed the walls preventing the Drug dealers, and Muslim terrorists from entering our country. Minimized illegal entries. US immigration is on the process of improvement via merit based system.

9. President Trump has required NATO members pay its own share of the dues.
10.President Trump in on the process of training millions of workers to obtain various sk**ls to fill up the millions of jobs in private industries that need sk**led workers.

11.Currently, we have more jobs than workers, thus salary of workers went up due to higher demands, but lesser supplies. Thus this sk**ls-training program by the president will help them fill up the gap.

12. America has the highest and most stable monetary system. Fact is world banks have been hoarding US $100 bills for their own security in case the world countries economy declines.

13. Because of president Trump, US was able to minimize the Chinese thievery of US Intellectual Properties.

14. President Trump has been effective requiring China to comply with balance trade agreement. China has been abusing that for many decades, and thus Chinese economy went ahead so fast because of that. Not at this time. President Trump has put a barrier by requiring this balance trade agreement which is about to be signed by January 15th.

15.President Trump loves and cares for all the American people. He works hard and deliver the results effectively for all.

16. Now we are respected again by the world.

17. K**led terrorist Soleimani of Iran who've k**led millions of people all over the world and the Middle East, k**led 603 Americans plus 1 recently and wounded 4 more.
18. K**led Al Bagdhadi the ISIS terrorist leader who k**led hundreds of thousands in the Middle East and in Europe.

19. The president reduced corporation taxes that drove the economy to the highest.

20. Improved or close alliance with the state of Israel

21. Initiated prison reform changes

22. Initiated steps towards reaching peace in the Middle East - nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for these efforts

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

People who v**ed for trump v**ed to stick the USA in the butt. They weren't looking for improvements, they were looking for a ruckus and the more chaotic trump became, the better they loved it. A very small minority saw trump as an avenue to pursue personal agendas, such as mitch, who wants to control the judicial branch.

Trump was elected because a majority of citizens threw their hands in the air and opted out, disliking BOTH candidates. This year they corrected their mistake.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Your oft repeated list is inaccurate at the very least. full of outright lies.. promoted by trump himself..

The whole world knows how inept and counterproductive trump has been concerning, not only the c***d v***s but in every part of running the nation. a misguided experiment gone even worse then expected..

Bless the v**e, for he is gone.. 31 days and counting..

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02800-9

EWS FEATURE 05 OCTOBER 2020
UPDATE 07 OCTOBER 2020
How Trump damaged science — and why it could take decades to recover
The US president’s actions have exacerbated the p******c that has k**led more than 200,000 people in the United States, rolled back environmental and public-health regulations and undermined science and scientific institutions. Some of the harm could be permanent.

Trump’s actions — and those of his staff and supporters — should come as no surprise. Over the past eight months, the president of the United States has lied about the dangers posed by the c****av***s and undermined efforts to contain it; he even admitted in an interview to purposefully misrepresenting the v***l threat early in the p******c. Trump has belittled masks and social-distancing requirements while encouraging people to protest against lockdown rules aimed at stopping disease t***smission. His administration has undermined, suppressed and censored government scientists working to study the v***s and reduce its harm. And his appointees have made political tools out of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), ordering the agencies to put out inaccurate information, issue ill-advised health guidance, and tout unproven and potentially harmful treatments for C****-**.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Smedley_buzkill

Trump probably lost because of v***r f***d. It is not possible for all the anomalies that have occurred to have done so by chance. It is possible that not enough fraud occurred to change the results, nevertheless, Democraps beware, because the political pendulum always swings the other way, and we won't forget. You thought gerrymandering was wonderful as long as it mostly benefited Democrats. You thought Harry Reid's shortsighted nuclear option for filibusters was wonderful till it came back to bite your progressive asses. You think the obvious fraud and c***ting that went on in 2020 was all "conspiracy." I wonder what you will think when THAT bites your butts in 2022 and 2024?

American Vet

Then feel free to refute any of them instead of your usual oral diarrhea.

Here are some more for you.

Jobs
4 million new jobs have been created since the e******n, and more than 3.5 million since Trump took office.
More Americans are employed now than ever before in our history.
Jobless claims at lowest level in nearly five decades.
The economy has achieved the longest positive job-growth streak on record.
Job openings are at an all-time high and outnumber job seekers for the first time on record.
Unemployment claims at 50 year low
African-American, Hispanic, and Asian-American unemployment rates have all recently reached record lows.
African-American unemployment hit a record low of 5.9 percent in May 2018.
Hispanic unemployment at 4.5 percent.
Asian-American unemployment at record low of 2 percent.
Women’s unemployment recently at lowest rate in nearly 65 years.
Female unemployment dropped to 3.6 percent in May 2018, the lowest since October 1953.
Youth unemployment recently reached its lowest level in more than 50 years.
July 2018’s youth unemployment rate of 9.2 percent was the lowest since July 1966.
Veterans’ unemployment recently hit its lowest level in nearly two decades.
July 2018’s veterans’ unemployment rate of 3.0 percent matched the lowest rate since May 2001.
Unemployment rate for Americans without a high school diploma recently reached a record low.
Rate for disabled Americans recently hit a record low.
Blue-collar jobs recently grew at the fastest rate in more than three decades.
Poll found that 85 percent of blue-collar workers believe their lives are headed “in the right direction.”
68 percent reported receiving a pay increase in the past year.
Last year, job satisfaction among American workers hit its highest level since 2005.
Nearly two-thirds of Americans rate now as a good time to find a quality job.
Optimism about the availability of good jobs has grown by 25 percent.
Added more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since the e******n.
Manufacturing employment is growing at its fastest pace in more than two decades.
100,000 new jobs supporting the production & t***sport of oil & natural gas.

American Income
Median household income rose to $61,372 in 2017, a post-recession high.
Wages up in August by their fastest rate since June 2009.
Paychecks rose by 3.3 percent between 2016 and 2017, the most in a decade.
Council of Economic Advisers found that real wage compensation has grown by 1.4 percent over the past year.
Some 3.9 million Americans off food stamps since the e******n.
Median income for Hispanic-Americans rose by 3.7 percent and surpassed $50,000 for the first time ever in history.
Home-ownership among Hispanics is at the highest rate in nearly a decade.
Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels ever recorded.

American Optimism
Small business optimism has hit historic highs.
NFIB’s small business optimism index broke a 35 year-old record in August.
SurveyMonkey/CNBC’s small business confidence survey for Q3 of 2018 matched its all-time high.
Manufacturers are more confident than ever.
95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future, the highest ever.
Consumer confidence is at an 18-year high.
12 percent of Americans rate the economy as the most significant problem facing our country, the lowest level on record.
Confidence in the economy is near a two-decade high, with 51 percent rating the economy as good or excellent.

American Business
Investment is flooding back into the United States due to the tax cuts.
Over $450 billion dollars has already poured back into the U.S., including more than $300 billion in the first quarter of 2018.
Retail sales have surged. Commerce Department figures from August show that retail sales increased 0.5 percent in July 2018, an increase of 6.4 percent from July 2017.
ISM’s index of manufacturing scored its highest reading in 14 years.
Worker productivity is the highest it has been in more than three years.
Steel and aluminum producers are re-opening.
Dow Jones Industrial Average, S&P 500, and NASDAQ have all notched record highs.
Dow hit record highs 70 times in 2017 alone, the most ever recorded in one year.

Deregulation
Achieved massive deregulation at a rapid pace, completing 22 deregulatory actions to every one regulatory action during his first year in office.
Signed legislation to roll back costly and harmful provisions of Dodd-Frank, providing relief to credit unions, and community and regional banks.
Federal agencies achieved more than $8 billion in lifetime net regulatory cost savings.
Rolled back Obama’s burdensome Waters of the U.S. rule.
Used the Congressional Review Act to repeal regulations more times than in history.

Tax Cuts
Biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history by signing the Tax Cuts and Jobs act into law
Provided more than $5.5 trillion in gross tax cuts, nearly 60 percent of which will go to families.
Increased the exemption for the death tax to help save Family Farms & Small Business.
Nearly doubled the standard deduction for individuals and families.
Enabled vast majority of American families will be able to file their taxes on a single page by claiming the standard deduction.
Doubled the child tax credit to help lessen the financial burden of raising a family.
Lowered America’s corporate tax rate from the highest in the developed world to allow American businesses to compete and win.
Small businesses can now deduct 20 percent of their business income.
Cut dozens of special interest tax breaks and closed loopholes for the wealthy.
9 in 10 American workers are expected see an increase in their paychecks thanks to the tax cuts, according to the Treasury Department.
More than 6 million of American workers have received wage increases, bonuses, and increased benefits thanks to tax cuts.
Over 100 utility companies have lowered electric, gas, or water rates thanks to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
Ernst & Young found 89 percent of companies planned to increase worker compensation thanks to the Trump tax cuts.
Established opportunity zones to spur investment in left behind communities.

Worker Development
Established a National Council for the American Worker to develop a national strategy for training and retraining America’s workers for high-demand industries.
Employers have signed Trump’s “Pledge to America’s Workers,” committing to train or retrain more than 4.2 million workers and students.
Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.

Domestic Infrastructure
Proposed infrastructure plan would utilize $200 billion in Federal funds to spur at least $1.5 trillion in infrastructure investment across the country.
Executive order expediting environmental reviews and approvals for high priority infrastructure projects.
Federal agencies have signed the One Federal Decision Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) streamlining the federal permitting process for infrastructure projects.
Rural prosperity task force and signed an executive order to help expand broadband access in rural areas.

Health Care
Signed an executive order to help minimize the financial burden felt by American households Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.
Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.
Signed Right-to-Try legislation, expanding health care options for terminally ill patients.
Enacted changes to the Medicare 340B program, saving seniors an estimated $320 million on drugs in 2018 alone.
FDA set a new record for generic drug approvals in 2017, saving consumers nearly $9 billion.
Released a blueprint to drive down drug prices for American patients, leading multiple major drug companies to announce they will freeze or reverse price increases.
Expanded short-term, limited-duration health plans.
Let more employers to form Association Health Plans, enabling more small businesses to join together and affordably provide health insurance to their employees.
Cut Obamacare’s burdensome individual mandate penalty.
Signed legislation repealing Obamacare’s Independent Payment Advisory Board, also known as the “death panels.”
USDA invested more than $1 billion in rural health care in 2017, improving access to health care for 2.5 million people in rural communities across 41 states
Proposed Title X rule to help ensure taxpayers do not fund the a******n industry in violation of the law.
Reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy to keep foreign aid from supporting the global a******n industry.
HHS formed a new division over protecting the rights of conscience and religious freedom.
Overturned Obama administration’s midnight regulation prohibiting states from defunding certain a******n facilities.
Signed executive order to help ensure that religious organizations are not forced to choose between violating their religious beliefs by complying with Obamacare’s contraceptive mandate or shutting their doors.

Combating Opioids
Chaired meeting the 73rd General Session of the United Nations discussing the worldwide drug problem with international leaders.
Initiative to Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply and Demand, introducing new measures to keep dangerous drugs out of our communities.
$6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
DEA conducted a surge in April 2018 that arrested 28 medical professions and revoked 147 registrations for prescribing too many opioids.
Brought the “Prescribed to Death” memorial to President’s Park near the White House, helping raise awareness about the human toll of the opioid crisis.
Helped reduce high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent in 2017.
Opioid Summit on the administration-wide efforts to combat the opioid crisis.
Launched a national public awareness campaign about the dangers of opioid addiction.
Created a Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis which recommended a number of pathways to tackle the opioid crisis.
Led two National Prescription Drug Take Back Days in 2017 and 2018, collecting a record number of expired and unneeded prescription drugs each time.
$485 million targeted grants in FY 2017 to help areas hit hardest by the opioid crisis.
Signed INTERDICT Act, strengthening efforts to detect and intercept synthetic opioids before they reach our communities.
DOJ secured its first-ever indictments against Chinese f******l manufacturers.
Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement (J-CODE) team, aimed at disrupting online illicit opioid sales.
Declared the opioid crisis a Nationwide Public Health Emergency in October 2017.

Law and Order
More U.S. Circuit Court judges confirmed in the first year in office than ever.
Confirmed more than two dozen U. S. Circuit Court judges.
Followed through on the promise to nominate judges to the Supreme Court who will adhere to the Constitution
Nominated and confirmed Amy Conbey Barrett, Justice Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.
Signed an executive order directing the Attorney General to develop a strategy to more effectively prosecute people who commit crimes against law enforcement officers.
Launched an evaluation of grant programs to make sure they prioritize the protection and safety of law enforcement officers.
Established a task force to reduce crime and restore public safety in communities across Signed an executive order to focus more federal resources on dismantling t***snational criminal organizations such as drug cartels.
Signed an executive order to focus more federal resources on dismantling t***snational criminal organizations such as drug cartels.
Violent crime decreased in 2017 according to FBI statistics.
$137 million in grants through the COPS Hiring Program to preserve jobs, increase community policing capacities, and support crime prevention efforts.
Enhanced and updated the Project Safe Neighborhoods to help reduce violent crime.
Signed legislation making it easier to target websites that enable sex trafficking and strengthened penalties for people who promote or facilitate prostitution.
Created an interagency task force working around the clock to prosecute traffickers, protect victims, and prevent human trafficking.
Conducted Operation Cross Country XI to combat human trafficking, rescuing 84 children and arresting 120 human traffickers.
Encouraged federal prosecutors to use the death penalty when possible in the fight against the trafficking of deadly drugs.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Most of the charges were f**e.. no proof, simply lies.. test it this way..

A person can say near anything they wish, but when they will not repeat it in court , which will bring consequences, they refuse to repeat it.. that is call "no evidence"

And ner 50 trump case have been tossed out for that short coming... "no evidence"..

you right wingers have been driving h**e and violence since the days of the cave man.. nothing new to cause worry.. Your kind only repeat the h**e from years past.. as a group of American h**ers and unending liars, you will never bring accord to the table.. we will have to be prepared for your kind of h**e and lies.. for a change..

American Vet

You are so right!!

Just look at Seattle! Oh wait - not a good choice.

Look at Portland! Oh wait, not a good choice either.

I know - Minneapolis!! NYC!!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Crist on a bike,,

the economy was a continuation of President Obama work.. find one thing trump did that changed the direction of our economy..

The tax bill of 2017 which the middle class will start paying for in Jan 2021... was a gift without conditions to the very rich and himself..

no business investment met hopes, or wishes.. why because the money was mostly used for stock buy backs, a left over from Reagans sacking of our long range economy, until and unless that law is remanded, we are very unlikely to see proper investment in the Economy by this type of tax gifts to the rich..

Do you understand what you income figure is telling you?? while 80% of growth went to the very rich , that income in included to find an average which also includes the very lowest minimum wage jobs.. it does not bother to show that the vastly greatest increase when to the very wealthiest people of the nation.. find some more inclusive facts.. and reflect on the republican caused stagnation extending back to the late 70s..

You should also realize that trump had no clue at all about trade agreements.. American corporations and wants have always been the driving force of these agreements and while he made little change , he did drive trade to leave US firms for other nations.. we lost our biggest Agriculture customer , possible for the long term..

while I am not going to bother with the rest of your long C & P, the closing line is Ludacris to the extreme.. while he separated families and locked up children who still after month and years have not been united with family..
then he claims credit for programs championed by Amy Klobachar and other truly committed members of our government as something of his own..

Nothing to trump have ever been good for anyone but him and his friends and nothing of his own making has ever been successful at any level..

American Vet

"Crist on a bike,," I understand your frustration at having your butt handed to you on a regular basis.

At least until the p******c, the president’s unconventional policy got unprecedented results.
By -Karl W. Smith-BLOOMBERG
October 30, 2020, 5:30 AM CDT
The sky was the limit on economic policy.
Karl W. Smith is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist. He was formerly vice president for federal policy at the Tax Foundation and assistant professor of economics at the University of North Carolina. He is also co-founder of the economics blog Modeled Behavior.
Joe Biden has argued that President Donald Trump didn’t so much build a strong economy as inherit one. It’s good line — but it ignores the successes, at least before the p******c, of Trump’s unconventional policy. If Biden is elected president, he should continue Trump’s economic approach rather than returning to Barack Obama’s.
Between December 2009 and December 2016, the unemployment rate dropped 5.2 percentage points, from 9.9% to 4.7%. By December 2019, it had fallen another 1.2 percentage points, to 3.5%. A cursory look at those numbers might lead you to believe that the improvement under Trump was at best a continuation of a trend that began nearly a decade earlier.
It’s necessary to place those numbers in context. By 2016, officials in the Treasury Department and at the Federal Reserve had concluded that the economy was at full employment and that further improvement in the labor market was unlikely. This was in line with the Congressional Budget Office’s guidance that further declines in the unemployment rate would push the economy beyond its sustainable capacity.
Once in office, Trump ignored this consensus. He implemented a program of tax cuts, spending increases and unprecedented pressure on the Fed to cut interest rates to zero and keep them there. Trump’s goal of 3% growth was derided as delusional, while a bipartisan chorus of commentators declared his policies reckless and irresponsible.
They were anything but. Not only did the unemployment rate continue to fall, but the percentage of Americans aged 25 to 54 either employed or looking for a job saw its first sustained rise since the late 1980s. This inflection point changed the character of the labor market.
In 2016, real median household income was $62,898, just $257 above its level in 1999. Over the next three years it grew almost $6,000, to $68,703. That’s perhaps why, despite the p******c, 56% of U.S. v**ers polled last month said their families were better off today than they were four years ago.
Family Income Has Soared Under Trump
Real median household income reached record levels in 2018 and 2019
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
The key to that number is the breadth of Trump’s expansionary agenda. Republican presidents have typically focused on tax cuts, particularly for businesses, with the idea that they will encourage an increase in investment and wages. Democrats have tended to seek spending increases, often with the hope that they will stimulate the overall economy and increase job growth. Presidents of both parties have traditionally left interest-rate policy to the Fed.
Trump broke the mold by aggressively battling on all three fronts. He also sought to increase jobs in manufacturing and agriculture by pursuing a series of trade wars. (Most economists, from across the ideological spectrum, think this policy backfired.) Nonetheless, if one had to choose between Trump’s three good policies plus trade wars, or the more modest economic policies of his predecessors, the easy choice is Trump.
Ideally, a Biden administration — which looks increasingly likely — would keep Trump’s three growth-enhancing policies and jettison his trade initiatives. What is crucial, however, is that it not believe its own campaign rhetoric and be satisfied with merely returning to the policies of the Obama administration. Trump proved that an aggressive growth strategy can improve the fortunes of the average American family. That strategy should continue.
SOURCE: Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics-Karl W. Smith-BLOOMBERG

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

while arrests are now going on in Mpls for arson and r**ts,, I have not followed other locations..

I have however followed some other incidents which are more concerning then demonstrations gone wrong..

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/right-wing-domestic-terrorism-has-increased-by-more-than-300-since-trump-took-office-report/

According to Neiwert and others, there is every indication that Paddock was an anti-government, gun-rights zealot. Paraphrasing numerous acquaintances of the k**ler into a composite explanation of his ideology, Neiwert writes that Paddock “had a thing about guns and the Second Amendment and harbored a deep fear that the government would attempt to take them away.”

One such acquaintance said that he defended the Second Amendment “with an incredible degree of vigor.”

According to a recent report, deaths attributable to so-called “right-wing d******c t*******ts” have increased by more than 300% since President Donald Trump took office in 2017.

A database compiled by the Type Media Center’s David Neiwert and based on government interpretations of ideological motivations showed that at least 87 people were “k**led by far-right terrorists” during Trump’s first three years in office. That number swells to 145 dead in three years if the 58 people k**led by Stephen Paddock during the Las Vegas massacre in October 2017 are added in.

According to Neiwert and others, there is every indication that Paddock was an anti-government, gun-rights zealot. Paraphrasing numerous acquaintances of the k**ler into a composite explanation of his ideology, Neiwert writes that Paddock “had a thing about guns and the Second Amendment and harbored a deep fear that the government would attempt to take them away.”

One such acquaintance said that he defended the Second Amendment “with an incredible degree of vigor.”

American Vet

So there are nuts on both sides - let's just keep it even instead of your usual one-sided monologues.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

True, no shortage of nut cases.. they are everywhere..

Have a nice day.. sun shine and clear up here..

American Vet

KC Clear and 53 - but rain sorely needed. Note "rain" - not "other stuff that comes from the sky".