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Woodguru: Should I just lie down and shut up about THIS?!
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Nov 25, 2020 19:59:08   #
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proud republican wrote:
Oh I suppose it's ok with you when parents who h**e President Trump take their kids to anti Trump rallies ,right?


Odd, I didn't see him say that at all.

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Nov 25, 2020 20:02:40   #
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Parky60 wrote:
I thought Christians were the h**eful ones who only wanted to shove it down your throat?


Isn't that what you are doing when you demand that WoodGuru repent? Wait... You didn't "demand" you merely advised, still, kind of forcing one's own beliefs upon others I would say. H**eful is declaring there is a special place in hell for someone believing kids should be allowed to be kids and shouldn't be "indoctrinated".

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Nov 25, 2020 20:04:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
Words escape me on how EXTREMELY evil this is. And if even I could think of any, i for sure would be thrown off OPP. Parky60

HBO Doc Shows Adults Leading 4-Year-Old to Stage to Announce New Female Identity
Tré Goins-Phillips ~ November 23, 2020
A clip for a new HBO documentary, “T***shood,” is causing quite a stir on social media, as it shows a group of adults leading a 4-year-old biological boy to publicly announce he prefers to identity as a little girl.

In the one-minute video, the boy, whose name is Phoenix, is seen dressed in a rainbow skirt as he’s ushered to the stage at a seemingly religious ceremony celebrating people who identify with a whole host of sexual descriptors.

Watch these adults push a toddler dressed in rainbow clothing to publicly announce that he is a girl named “Phoenix” who would “prefer she and her pronouns.”
“I’m a little shy,” the toddler says, when offered the microphone to make the announcement.
— Mary Margaret Olohan (@MaryMargOlohan) November 23, 2020


Phoenix is obviously very nervous about making any sort of public declaration. So when handed a microphone, the nervous toddler says, “I’m a little shy.”

“You’re a little shy?” asked the mother. “Do you want to tell everybody if you’re a boy or a girl?” In response, Phoenix said, “I just want to tell them that I’m a girl.”

Ultimately, the child said, “I don’t want to do it.”

“OK,” replied the mom. “Phoenix would like you to know that she’s a girl and she prefers ‘she’ and ‘her’ pronouns.”

At that, the young child was handed a pink flower and everyone gathered for the ceremony said together, “May you be well, safe, and whole. We honor you exactly as you are.”

According to a report from Time, Phoenix, who was 4 years old when HBO began filming the documentary series, first identified as a “girl-boy,” then chose to identity as a female, before returning to his biological identity as a male at 7 years old.

Sharon Liese, director for the series, told the outlet it’s “not unusual that kids know [that they are t***s] when they are young.”

“People ask me, ‘How do kids know when they are 4 years old?’” she said. “I quickly realized that is not the question. The question is, ‘How do you not believe them?’”

Abigail Shrier, author of the new book “Irreversible Damage: The T*********r Craze Seducing Our Daughters,” told conservative talk radio host Ben Shapiro t*********rism is the only medical situation in which “affirmative care” — which, in effect, allows patients to call all the shots — is said to be the only viable method of treatment for g****r dysphoria.

“One of the key parts in all of this is ‘affirmative care,’ which may be the most sort of horrifying medical scandal of our time,” Shrier told Shapiro. “That is that every medical accrediting organization told doctors that the standard only with regard to g****r dysphoria — so just with this one ailment — is to affirm the patient, to agree with the patient’s self-diagnosis. Absolutely to hand over the judgement and the prescription pad to the patients with regard to this ailment.”

“So you have a population that is completely self-diagnosing, that is able to demand, you know, effectively the course of treatment and they’re getting that treatment on what’s called an informed consent basis, meaning you walk into a g****r clinic and you sign a waiver and you walk out that day with a course of testosterone, and of course, even young girls are doing this — even minors,” she added.
i Words escape me on how EXTREMELY evil this is. ... (show quote)


It was sickening... Especially as you could see the boy being coerced...

Very troubling...

That kid is going to have a messed up life...

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Nov 25, 2020 20:08:43   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
SSDD wrote:
What is so "evil" about agreeing with you? Or are you saying he is "evil" because he ALSO doesn't believe in "indoctrinating" kids with our own ideals? I think you may need to re-examine what you consider evil. Nothing evil about believing that kids should be kids and that WHEN they are ready to take a stance politically wise, they should be permitted to make their own choices.

He was NOT agreeing with me.

BTW do you think it's it OK to indoctrinate a 4-year old into thinking that it's OK for him or her to want to change his or her g****r? That's the point that was being made and if you do there's a special place in hell for you too unless you repent before you die.

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Nov 25, 2020 20:20:41   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Rose42 wrote:
You have a Happy Thanksgiving as well!


Thank you, Rose.

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Nov 25, 2020 20:23:50   #
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Auntie Dee wrote:
I've seen just as many Liberals USING their children or someone else's children to express their own adult view, it is NOT limited to right-wingers!! Quit try to persuade anyone that it is! IT IS CHILD ABUSE!


Of those 4 pictures, the closest to making a point is the one where the child is holding up a sign that they may or may not believe in. Hard to be certain if she actually believed in what her sign said or not though she didn't seem unhappy to be holding it so prominently and without a parent in sight. The first picture merely showed a woman with an opinion that may not have been able to afford child care, the children weren't forced to hold up a sign, they don't appear as though they are forced to shout slogans/rhetoric or forced to wear clothing promoting someone or something they may or may not believe in.

I witnessed a disturbing scene at a store some time back, a child dressed in a Trump 2020 t-shirt and MAGA cap with a home made sign denigrating Biden. The kid was busy deriding Biden, spewing typical RW rhetoric. Someone had stopped and was asking the child some questions regarding their support for Trump and what they disliked most about Biden. I stopped to watch, because the child was fairly young, the guy that was questioning him seemed non-confrontational, but you never know how things can turn on a dime. I watched for some time, the kid didn't seem too knowledgeable about the rhetoric he was spewing. The kid's responses almost seemed scripted, like their parent(s) gave them a limited script of what to say and that kid stuck hard to that script but was flailing hard to explain their stance. Of course there wasn't a parent in sight, but I was certain their parent(s) put them up to it.

If a child CHOOSES to support a candidate, that is their prerogative, if a parent or parents put them up to it or force them to do so or even if the parent(s) just merely "indoctrinate" their child to believe that is what they need to do... That is just wrong, let kids be kids, there is time for activism later.

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