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Nov 25, 2020 14:31:22   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
The administration of presumptive President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris is certain to implement policies and initiate litigation that will, at best, be in tension with the moral commitments of Christians in the United States, imposing high costs on conscientious attempts to practice our faith. At worst, the incoming administration will impose moral positions on Christians that are repugnant to us and infringe upon the exercise of religious faith in the public square.

A******n

To his credit, Biden does not take the intellectually disingenuous “personally opposed but” position of some of his pro-a******n Catholic predecessors and colleagues. His Catholic faith notwithstanding, Biden has repeatedly personally affirmed the morality of a******n without meaningful restrictions. And he has promised to facilitate access and procurement of a******n on demand, financed with tax dollars.

For example, he will almost certainly re-implement regulations from the Obama administration prohibiting states that receive federal funds for family planning from withholding payment to a******n mills such as Planned Parenthood. He has stated that he will take preemptive measures to codify the essential holding of Roe v. Wade in order to bypass possible Supreme Court approval of states’ reasonable regulation of a******n. And Biden has promised to pass regulations under the Affordable Care Act that will eliminate accommodations for Catholic organizations such as, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor, forcing them to facilitate and finance access to contraception and a******n for their lay employees.

Biden now supports repeal of the Hyde Amendment, perennial legislation that has prohibited direct funding of a******n since 1977. Thus, tax revenue collected from Christians and others opposed to a******n will be used directly to fund a******n in a Biden administration. Nor is this aggressive position limited to domestic policy. Biden also plans to suspend the Mexico City Policy, which prohibits international aid to NGOs that provide or finance a******ns in developing countries.

G****r Ideology

Biden has also promised to re-implement aggressive Obama-era policies imposing secular g****r ideology on all aspects of public life. He will re-implement the so-called “Dear Colleague” letter from May 2016, which forced public schools that receive vital federal funds to allow students to use locker rooms, restrooms, and showers of the student’s choosing, regardless of the student’s biological sex. This executive order even made it a violation for a school administrator to question the authenticity of a student’s “g****r identity,” requiring acquiescence to a student’s “g****r fluidity.” Nor is it sufficient to provide access to individual-use facilities for t*********r students, lest they be stigmatized. A Biden Justice department will also oppose states’ efforts to prevent b********l m**es from displacing females in high school athletics, forcing girls to the sidelines while boys dominate female athletic events.

Biden has also indicated he supports the so-called “E******y Act,” which has passed in the House and been championed by Harris in the Senate. This legislation is designed to impose g****r ideology even beyond schools and other institutions that receive federal funding. Its purpose is to force businesses and other public institutions not merely to accommodate people according to their g****r identity, but rather to affirm an ideology that violates the moral commitments of most Christians, and forces citizens to say or affirm falsehoods about sex and g****r. The Act would make it a violation of a person’s civil rights, for example, to refuse to use pronouns that accord with a person’s stated g****r identity, rather than his or her biological sex. Such refusal could be actionable as sexual harassment, leading either to acquiescence to falsehood or financial ruin for businesses, other public entities, and even individuals.

Religious Liberty

In addition to these policies that violate the religious moral sensibilities of most Christians, a Biden-Harris administration will also directly assault religious liberty. Harris has been a strong supporter of the Do No Harm Act in the Senate, and she will almost certainly make it a priority in the new administration. The purpose of the Act is to subvert, if not practically eliminate, the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) and similar legislation in many states. Implemented after the 1990 Supreme Court case Employment Division v. Smith, RFRA laws are designed to protect sincerely held religious practices from otherwise generally applicable laws that prohibit them.

Among other things, they protect Catholic hospitals from being forced to perform a******ns or t*********r surgeries, or religious schools from hiring teachers and other employees who take public moral positions that are contrary to the tenets of those religions. Put bluntly, the Do No Harm Act is designed to eliminate the free exercise of religion in the United States. In a Biden-Harris administration, if legislation cannot pass the Senate, we can be certain that regulations will be implemented, and litigation instigated, that will attempt to achieve the same ends of eliminating vital elements of religious liberty for many Americans.

Of course, no politician, law, regulation, or policy can take away one’s religious faith. But they can make it very costly to practice one’s faith. And they can impose moral positions on people of faith that force them either to participate in falsehood or face severe financial and even legal sanctions. The president-elect and vice president-elect have made it very clear that they intend to do just that.

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Nov 25, 2020 14:39:12   #
kemmer
 
4430 wrote:
The administration of presumptive President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris is certain to implement policies and initiate litigation that will, at best, be in tension with the moral commitments of Christians in the United States, imposing high costs on conscientious attempts to practice our faith. At worst, the incoming administration will impose moral positions on Christians that are repugnant to us and infringe upon the exercise of religious faith in the public square.

A******n

To his credit, Biden does not take the intellectually disingenuous “personally opposed but” position of some of his pro-a******n Catholic predecessors and colleagues. His Catholic faith notwithstanding, Biden has repeatedly personally affirmed the morality of a******n without meaningful restrictions. And he has promised to facilitate access and procurement of a******n on demand, financed with tax dollars.

For example, he will almost certainly re-implement regulations from the Obama administration prohibiting states that receive federal funds for family planning from withholding payment to a******n mills such as Planned Parenthood. He has stated that he will take preemptive measures to codify the essential holding of Roe v. Wade in order to bypass possible Supreme Court approval of states’ reasonable regulation of a******n. And Biden has promised to pass regulations under the Affordable Care Act that will eliminate accommodations for Catholic organizations such as, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor, forcing them to facilitate and finance access to contraception and a******n for their lay employees.

Biden now supports repeal of the Hyde Amendment, perennial legislation that has prohibited direct funding of a******n since 1977. Thus, tax revenue collected from Christians and others opposed to a******n will be used directly to fund a******n in a Biden administration. Nor is this aggressive position limited to domestic policy. Biden also plans to suspend the Mexico City Policy, which prohibits international aid to NGOs that provide or finance a******ns in developing countries.

G****r Ideology

Biden has also promised to re-implement aggressive Obama-era policies imposing secular g****r ideology on all aspects of public life. He will re-implement the so-called “Dear Colleague” letter from May 2016, which forced public schools that receive vital federal funds to allow students to use locker rooms, restrooms, and showers of the student’s choosing, regardless of the student’s biological sex. This executive order even made it a violation for a school administrator to question the authenticity of a student’s “g****r identity,” requiring acquiescence to a student’s “g****r fluidity.” Nor is it sufficient to provide access to individual-use facilities for t*********r students, lest they be stigmatized. A Biden Justice department will also oppose states’ efforts to prevent b********l m**es from displacing females in high school athletics, forcing girls to the sidelines while boys dominate female athletic events.

Biden has also indicated he supports the so-called “E******y Act,” which has passed in the House and been championed by Harris in the Senate. This legislation is designed to impose g****r ideology even beyond schools and other institutions that receive federal funding. Its purpose is to force businesses and other public institutions not merely to accommodate people according to their g****r identity, but rather to affirm an ideology that violates the moral commitments of most Christians, and forces citizens to say or affirm falsehoods about sex and g****r. The Act would make it a violation of a person’s civil rights, for example, to refuse to use pronouns that accord with a person’s stated g****r identity, rather than his or her biological sex. Such refusal could be actionable as sexual harassment, leading either to acquiescence to falsehood or financial ruin for businesses, other public entities, and even individuals.

Religious Liberty

In addition to these policies that violate the religious moral sensibilities of most Christians, a Biden-Harris administration will also directly assault religious liberty. Harris has been a strong supporter of the Do No Harm Act in the Senate, and she will almost certainly make it a priority in the new administration. The purpose of the Act is to subvert, if not practically eliminate, the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) and similar legislation in many states. Implemented after the 1990 Supreme Court case Employment Division v. Smith, RFRA laws are designed to protect sincerely held religious practices from otherwise generally applicable laws that prohibit them.

Among other things, they protect Catholic hospitals from being forced to perform a******ns or t*********r surgeries, or religious schools from hiring teachers and other employees who take public moral positions that are contrary to the tenets of those religions. Put bluntly, the Do No Harm Act is designed to eliminate the free exercise of religion in the United States. In a Biden-Harris administration, if legislation cannot pass the Senate, we can be certain that regulations will be implemented, and litigation instigated, that will attempt to achieve the same ends of eliminating vital elements of religious liberty for many Americans.

Of course, no politician, law, regulation, or policy can take away one’s religious faith. But they can make it very costly to practice one’s faith. And they can impose moral positions on people of faith that force them either to participate in falsehood or face severe financial and even legal sanctions. The president-elect and vice president-elect have made it very clear that they intend to do just that.
The administration of presumptive President-elect ... (show quote)

It's about time the US entered the 21st century.
The following is the most egregious pile of BS in your moaning and wailing:
" the Do No Harm Act is designed to eliminate the free exercise of religion in the United States."

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Nov 25, 2020 14:45:32   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
It's about time the US entered the 21st century.
The following is the most egregious pile of BS in your moaning and wailing:
" the Do No Harm Act is designed to eliminate the free exercise of religion in the United States."

4430 nailed it...this is what Christians can expect.

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Nov 25, 2020 14:56:40   #
kemmer
 
Parky60 wrote:
4430 nailed it...this is what Christians can expect.

"Christians" in this case is code for anti-everything-except-themselves evangelicals.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:00:15   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
"Christians" in this case is code for anti-everything-except-themselves evangelicals.

[Jesus said:] If the world h**es you, you know that it h**ed Me before it h**ed you. John 15:18

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Nov 25, 2020 15:03:54   #
Grugore
 
kemmer wrote:
"Christians" in this case is code for anti-everything-except-themselves evangelicals.


You strike me as someone who would have cheered, and even participated in the extermination of Jews during WWII. You are one of the most obnoxious people I've ever met. And that's really saying something, considering the caliber, or should I say sub caliber, of the competition on here.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:21:12   #
kemmer
 
Grugore wrote:
You strike me as someone who would have cheered, and even participated in the extermination of Jews during WWII. You are one of the most obnoxious people I've ever met. And that's really saying something, considering the caliber, or should I say sub caliber, of the competition on here.

Viewing your previous posts, I almost pity your-ahem-limitations.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:23:18   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
It's about time the US entered the 21st century.
The following is the most egregious pile of BS in your moaning and wailing:
" the Do No Harm Act is designed to eliminate the free exercise of religion in the United States."


The 5th Circuit case is winding its way to the Supremes. If it passes before Jan. 20th they won't reverse themselves in the next four years. That would be too obvious they're political. Checkmate! What a nice Christmas present that would be for America.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:25:51   #
kemmer
 
Peewee wrote:
The 5th Circuit case is winding its way to the Supremes. If it passes before Jan. 20th they won't reverse themselves in the next four years. That would be too obvious they're political. Checkmate! What a nice Christmas present that would be for America.

The SCOTUS isn't going to touch any of Trumps nonsense.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:25:56   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
kemmer wrote:
"Christians" in this case is code for anti-everything-except-themselves evangelicals.


Anti immoral behavior!

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Nov 25, 2020 15:29:11   #
EmilyD
 
Grugore wrote:
You strike me as someone who would have cheered, and even participated in the extermination of Jews during WWII. You are one of the most obnoxious people I've ever met. And that's really saying something, considering the caliber, or should I say sub caliber, of the competition on here.


kemmer is the most bigoted homosexual on this forum. He is constantly trying to find excuses for his lifestyle. Christians will not accept his chosen way of life and therefore he trashes them every chance he gets. Yes, he would have made a good commandant.

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Nov 25, 2020 15:30:31   #
jdw57 Loc: Almost Heaven
 
Grugore wrote:
You strike me as someone who would have cheered, and even participated in the extermination of Jews during WWII. You are one of the most obnoxious people I've ever met. And that's really saying something, considering the caliber, or should I say sub caliber, of the competition on here.


Good response
I'd rather be persecuted for being a Christian and have eternal life, than burn in hell for eternity and be politically correct!

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Nov 25, 2020 16:03:42   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
4430 wrote:
The administration of presumptive President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris is certain to implement policies and initiate litigation that will, at best, be in tension with the moral commitments of Christians in the United States, imposing high costs on conscientious attempts to practice our faith. At worst, the incoming administration will impose moral positions on Christians that are repugnant to us and infringe upon the exercise of religious faith in the public square.

A******n

To his credit, Biden does not take the intellectually disingenuous “personally opposed but” position of some of his pro-a******n Catholic predecessors and colleagues. His Catholic faith notwithstanding, Biden has repeatedly personally affirmed the morality of a******n without meaningful restrictions. And he has promised to facilitate access and procurement of a******n on demand, financed with tax dollars.

For example, he will almost certainly re-implement regulations from the Obama administration prohibiting states that receive federal funds for family planning from withholding payment to a******n mills such as Planned Parenthood. He has stated that he will take preemptive measures to codify the essential holding of Roe v. Wade in order to bypass possible Supreme Court approval of states’ reasonable regulation of a******n. And Biden has promised to pass regulations under the Affordable Care Act that will eliminate accommodations for Catholic organizations such as, for example, the Little Sisters of the Poor, forcing them to facilitate and finance access to contraception and a******n for their lay employees.

Biden now supports repeal of the Hyde Amendment, perennial legislation that has prohibited direct funding of a******n since 1977. Thus, tax revenue collected from Christians and others opposed to a******n will be used directly to fund a******n in a Biden administration. Nor is this aggressive position limited to domestic policy. Biden also plans to suspend the Mexico City Policy, which prohibits international aid to NGOs that provide or finance a******ns in developing countries.

G****r Ideology

Biden has also promised to re-implement aggressive Obama-era policies imposing secular g****r ideology on all aspects of public life. He will re-implement the so-called “Dear Colleague” letter from May 2016, which forced public schools that receive vital federal funds to allow students to use locker rooms, restrooms, and showers of the student’s choosing, regardless of the student’s biological sex. This executive order even made it a violation for a school administrator to question the authenticity of a student’s “g****r identity,” requiring acquiescence to a student’s “g****r fluidity.” Nor is it sufficient to provide access to individual-use facilities for t*********r students, lest they be stigmatized. A Biden Justice department will also oppose states’ efforts to prevent b********l m**es from displacing females in high school athletics, forcing girls to the sidelines while boys dominate female athletic events.

Biden has also indicated he supports the so-called “E******y Act,” which has passed in the House and been championed by Harris in the Senate. This legislation is designed to impose g****r ideology even beyond schools and other institutions that receive federal funding. Its purpose is to force businesses and other public institutions not merely to accommodate people according to their g****r identity, but rather to affirm an ideology that violates the moral commitments of most Christians, and forces citizens to say or affirm falsehoods about sex and g****r. The Act would make it a violation of a person’s civil rights, for example, to refuse to use pronouns that accord with a person’s stated g****r identity, rather than his or her biological sex. Such refusal could be actionable as sexual harassment, leading either to acquiescence to falsehood or financial ruin for businesses, other public entities, and even individuals.

Religious Liberty

In addition to these policies that violate the religious moral sensibilities of most Christians, a Biden-Harris administration will also directly assault religious liberty. Harris has been a strong supporter of the Do No Harm Act in the Senate, and she will almost certainly make it a priority in the new administration. The purpose of the Act is to subvert, if not practically eliminate, the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) and similar legislation in many states. Implemented after the 1990 Supreme Court case Employment Division v. Smith, RFRA laws are designed to protect sincerely held religious practices from otherwise generally applicable laws that prohibit them.

Among other things, they protect Catholic hospitals from being forced to perform a******ns or t*********r surgeries, or religious schools from hiring teachers and other employees who take public moral positions that are contrary to the tenets of those religions. Put bluntly, the Do No Harm Act is designed to eliminate the free exercise of religion in the United States. In a Biden-Harris administration, if legislation cannot pass the Senate, we can be certain that regulations will be implemented, and litigation instigated, that will attempt to achieve the same ends of eliminating vital elements of religious liberty for many Americans.

Of course, no politician, law, regulation, or policy can take away one’s religious faith. But they can make it very costly to practice one’s faith. And they can impose moral positions on people of faith that force them either to participate in falsehood or face severe financial and even legal sanctions. The president-elect and vice president-elect have made it very clear that they intend to do just that.
The administration of presumptive President-elect ... (show quote)


Moral commitments of the United States? My god that's priceless!

The greatest tool in Satan's arsenal is a self professed Christian from the United States.

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Nov 25, 2020 16:09:07   #
woodguru
 
4430 wrote:
imposing high costs on conscientious attempts to practice our faith. At worst, the incoming administration will impose moral positions on Christians that are repugnant to us and infringe upon the exercise of religious faith in the public square.

What does practicing your faith mean? And are you prepared for Muslims or other religious people to be able to practice the same exact degree of their beliefs that christians are supposed to be able to exercise?

The only degree of practicing your faith you get besides the right to believe wh**ever you want is to go to church and share your beliefs with others that believe what you do.

Kim Davis tried to practice her religious beliefs on others and it violated their civil rights. If practicing your religion impedes someone else's rights it is not okay.

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Nov 25, 2020 16:09:20   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
The SCOTUS isn't going to touch any of Trumps nonsense.


Wow! So your physic too? I know of four who might jump on it, like a Super Bowl fumble.

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