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Nov 25, 2020 06:30:54   #
American Vet
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
E******y isn't fair. Equity is.


Do you believe in individual choice?

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Nov 25, 2020 12:52:55   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
...Going to the Moon was impossible until it became possible. Utopia should be a global vision of what humans CAN accomplish...

Man will NEVER accomplish utopia if he keeps making himself god.

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Nov 25, 2020 13:46:15   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Abbie Hoffman wrote:
You are right. We were talking about a******n. I think we are both smart enough to get that the problem has finite and undesirable outcomes, no matter how one cuts the cake.

I don't WANT anyone to have any a******n. I hope someday we have all of the resources that we will be able to live in a kinder, slower, more supportive world. Right now, we do not live in that world. And since we don't have a perfect world, we are left with some barbaric practices.

In my perfect world, private prisons and detention centers don't exist. The death penalty is abolished. All children get a good liberal arts education in their own communities, which are racially balanced. We give everyone a guaranteed universal income, and single payer health care. Everyone eats from local, urban farms that are subsidized by local, municipal, state, and federal government. We grow sustainable plants, on our rooftops, to help slow c*****e c****e and generate oxygen for the urban areas that were designed in the 1920's vision of upscale and modernity. People like Jeff Bezos' tax cut buried inside C****-** relief funds got such a BIG break that it made Bezos in the $300,000,000,000 range. NO one needs 300 billion in a p******c. He, Bill Gates, George Soros, the Clintons, Karl Rove, Betsy De Vos doesn't need 10+, multi-million, 100 foot long yachts.

The right keeps screaming about lefties living with undocumented immigrants. That's an awesome idea! Maybe then we all only need to work one job instead of three!!! And, you agree to take ALL of the post-birth-canal babies, regardless of medical and physical conditions. Let's see how pro-life you are then.
You are right. We were talking about a******n. I... (show quote)

Max Berger, or you, don’t know what you’re talking about. I did a little research to verify the accuracy of this map and it is anything but.



First the 40 million populations highlighted in those states are wrong. The population of California is 39.5 million – which was pretty close – but the population of the highlighted states is 46.2 million. I’m sure that someone like you would say that's close but the difference is eight states – Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming. Taking those states out results in:

California: 39.5 million population ~ 2 senators
States highlighted less ones mentioned: 39.5 million population ~ 30 senators

OMG! That’s STILL UNFAIR!

The only trouble is you forgot one small detail…there are TWO chambers of Congress.

Granted, the 15 states have MORE power in the Senate than California unless California forms a coalition to equal the power of the 15 states.

But conversely, California has MORE power in the House than the 15 states unless they form a coalition to equal the power of California.

And remember, basically in order to get anything done, it has to pass BOTH chambers.

Yeah, maybe a bunch of white s***e owners from the 1700s DID come up with the best government ever!

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Nov 26, 2020 01:25:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
Max Berger, or you, don’t know what you’re talking about. I did a little research to verify the accuracy of this map and it is anything but.



First the 40 million populations highlighted in those states are wrong. The population of California is 39.5 million – which was pretty close – but the population of the highlighted states is 46.2 million. I’m sure that someone like you would say that's close but the difference is eight states – Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming. Taking those states out results in:

California: 39.5 million population ~ 2 senators
States highlighted less ones mentioned: 39.5 million population ~ 30 senators

OMG! That’s STILL UNFAIR!

The only trouble is you forgot one small detail…there are TWO chambers of Congress.

Granted, the 15 states have MORE power in the Senate than California unless California forms a coalition to equal the power of the 15 states.

But conversely, California has MORE power in the House than the 15 states unless they form a coalition to equal the power of California.

And remember, basically in order to get anything done, it has to pass BOTH chambers.

Yeah, maybe a bunch of white s***e owners from the 1700s DID come up with the best government ever!
Max Berger, or you, don’t know what you’re talking... (show quote)


Well said...

I would argue that the founding fathers came up with a system guaranteed to ensure that both the voices of the people and the states would carry equal weight...


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