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Nov 20, 2020 01:04:29   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
proud republican wrote:
Rudy Giuliani better have proof to all these allegations , otherwise he and President Trump's Campaign will be in huge trouble . ..


PR, they have no proof, its all smoke and mirrors, lies and f**e news, same thing we have seen for the last 4 years.

Giuliani is a joke. I watched the presser, Rudi is not looking well these days. He was sweating so much I was wondering if he has C***d. I hope not as I don't wish that on anyone. But man he looked bad. I've never seen somone's hair coloring dripping down both sides of an individual's face. Its November, couldn't have been that hot. Think he became dehydrated while he was talking. Perhaps that is why the longer he talked the less sense he made.

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Nov 20, 2020 01:07:13   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
trashbaum wrote:
Proud sounds like you are flipping????


Nope, she just happens to be one of the few on here who can see reality coming before it smacks her full force in the face. She is doing what any decent human being and American should be doing right now, whether they v**ed for Trump, Biden, or Mickey Mouse.

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Nov 20, 2020 01:10:15   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
meridianlesilie wrote:
they will do not worry if they did not have it they would never had it to begin with the kracken is gonna be kicken ass


There is no Kraken, just more lies, f**e news and efforts to deceive you.

If they had anything we would have heard of it over a week ago. They have NOTHING.

Don't let them continue to deceive you!

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Nov 20, 2020 01:14:54   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
Seth wrote:
Sidney Powell seems to have the D******n software angle pretty well sewn up. I saw something about their v****g machines being confiscated in Germany in an unrelated link on another thread, and I plan to look into that.

They wouldn't lie about the numerous sworn affidavits they've collected or the witnesses they will be calling when they get to the Court, and there have been e******n officials in some states acknowledging "irregularities."

This is the real deal, the Democratic Party is about to get slammed because they made some bad calculations when they were setting up their fraud -- they underestimated the number of v**es Trump would get and that screwed up the c***ting algorithms and in D******n's software program, so they had to backfill with dummied up paper b****ts. This wasn't easy to hide and it's what got the investigation on track.

Have faith.
Sidney Powell seems to have the D******n software ... (show quote)


Total and complete BULLSH!T. Are you a freaking Russian troll or just too ignorant to decipher fact from fiction? Stop spreading lies and f**e news. You should well understand that having the US military do a raid on a company located in Germany would be an act of war, stop being ignorant. Scytl doesn’t even have offices in Germany. The U.S. Army denied to the Associated Press that such an event took place.

"Scytl, a software company based in Barcelona, has eight offices around the world but none in Germany, according to its website. It has delivered e******n modernization projects for U.S. e******ns since 2008.

But none of these projects involve tallying v**es, the company said. The services include online initiatives like e******n worker training, electronic b****t delivery and real-time, visual representation of v**es.

In a statement rejecting the claims, Scytl said that its technologies for the U.S. are hosted and managed domestically by a Tampa-based subsidiary, SOE Software, and that it does not provide any v****g machines in the U.S. or online v****g services for U.S. e******ns."

YouTube videos: The U.S. military seized servers in Germany tied to D******n E******n Systems.

PolitiFact’s ruling: Pants on Fire

Here’s why: V****g equipment company D******n V****g Systems has been at the center of unfounded conspiracy theories — many spread by President Donald Trump — that claim Democrats committed v***r f***d and stole the 2020 e******n for Joe Biden.

There’s no evidence that D******n’s systems were used nefariously in the e******n, but false claims about the company keep coming.

Posts circulating online claim that the U.S. military raided the Spanish e******n software company Scytl in Germany and seized its servers for evidence of manipulation in the 2020 U.S. e******ns. Some posts claim the servers have ties to D******n.

This is false. Scytl said in a statement that the U.S. military hasn’t seized anything and that it doesn’t have offices in Germany. The U.S. Army, which was identified in some posts as the military branch supposedly involved, denied to the Associated Press that such an event took place.

The post was f**gged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

The rumor was fueled by an article on a website called “GreatGameIndia” titled “INTEL: US Military Raided Scytl Servers in Germany For Evidence After V**e Switching Scandal.” It said, “v**es cast by Americans in 2020 US e******n were counted by a bankrupt Spanish company Scytl in Spain.”
Sources

YouTube video, Nov. 14

PolitiFact, Trump’s tweet about 2.7 million deleted v**es is baseless, Nov. 12, 2020

Scytl, Fact Checking Regarding US E******ns: Debunking F**e News, Nov. 13, 2020

Scytl, US E******ns, Accessed Nov. 17, 2020

D******n V****g, SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT: FACTS & RUMORS, Updated Nov. 17, 2020

Associated Press, False reports claim e******n servers were seized in Germany, Nov. 15, 2020

Reuters, Fact check: The U.S. military has not seized e******n servers in Germany, Nov. 16, 2020

Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency, JOINT STATEMENT FROM E******NS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE E******N INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES, Nov. 12, 2020

The story pointed to comments made by U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, who appeared on conservative TV channel Newsmax. A clip of the interview shows Gohmert saying that he was told there was “a tweet in German from Germany that the U.S. Army had gone in and seized the Syctl server.”

The clip’s description on YouTube reads: “People on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which hosting YOUR e******ns data Improperly through Spain, was raided by a large US ARMY force & their Servers were Seized in Frankfurt.”

An Army spokesperson told the AP over the weekend that the claims in the posts are false.

Scytl, a software company based in Barcelona, has eight offices around the world but none in Germany, according to its website. It has delivered e******n modernization projects for U.S. e******ns since 2008.

But none of these projects involve tallying v**es, the company said. The services include online initiatives like e******n worker training, electronic b****t delivery and real-time, visual representation of v**es.

In a statement rejecting the claims, Scytl said that its technologies for the U.S. are hosted and managed domestically by a Tampa-based subsidiary, SOE Software, and that it does not provide any v****g machines in the U.S. or online v****g services for U.S. e******ns.

“We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt,” the company added. “The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else.”

Scytl and D******n share no ties, according to statements from both companies.

The federal E******n Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council Executive Committee and the E******n Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council said in a joint statement that the e******n was the most secure in U.S. history and that there is “no evidence that any v****g system deleted or lost v**es, changed v**es, or was in any way c*********d.”

Our ruling

Social media users are sharing articles and videos claiming that the U.S. military seized Scytl servers in Germany and that the company has ties to D******n V****g Systems.

The Army and Scytl said the claim is false, and the company has no offices in Germany or connection to D******n.

We rate this Pants on Fire!

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-e******n-syctl-military-idUSKBN27W1UW

https://www.statesman.com/news/20201118/fact-check-did-us-military-seize-servers-tied-to-d******n-e******n-systems

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/17/fact-check-story-army-raid-e******n-servers-germany-false/6313140002/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/d******n-servers-germany-seized/

Stop spreading lies!

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Nov 20, 2020 01:29:47   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
Why is it that all of the allegations, year after year, of v***r f***d are all about Democrats dirty tricks and not Republicans? i'm sure that there might be a very isolated case out there somewhere. But in reality, it is the Democrats. And where there is smoke there is fire and they have never seen this much smoke before. And the Democrats and the delusional on OPP keep saying it is not enough to flip the results. But still try to bully counters and observers and fight Republicans in court. And they keep trying to accuse Republicans for wanting v**er I. D. and proof of a right to v**e, and your v**e is your personal choice, and is counted, and illegal v**es aren't counted. Makes me believe that you OPP protesters to an investigation of this e******n are just as guilty as those that caused the fraud because you back it and want it covered up. Pathetic.
Why is it that all of the allegations, year after ... (show quote)


You have it all backwards again illogically wrong.

V***r f***d allegations come mostly from Repugs because Trump started it all prior to the 2016 e******n. He thought he was going to lose then so used the fraud lie to help him get over that loss. But lo and behold, he won. Where was all his claimed v***r f***d then?

However, if you care to do your own research you would find that although most of the v***r f***d allegations are coming from Republicans, the majority of the real v***r f***d that has been found in this country has been perpetrated by republicans.

But, the saving grace is that v***r f***d is really hard to do. You might get a few individuals trying to do it, but there has never been any significant fraud found by either side in my lifetime of more than 6 decades, and fraud has NEVER resulted in a different e******n result in a national e******n in my life.

Stop being fooled, do your own research, if you do have any capacity at logic, why don't you start using it!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e******n-v**er-fraud-facts-explai/explainer-despite-trump-claims-v**er-fraud-is-extremely-rare-here-is-how-u-s-states-keep-it-that-way-idUSKBN2601HG

How widespread is v***r f***d?

The Heritage Foundation’s database includes 1,296 “proven instances of v***r f***d” out of the hundreds of millions of v**es cast going back to 1992. Of those cases identified, 1,120 resulted in criminal convictions.

The cases include a North Carolina Republican operative and several others who were accused of b****t tampering in connection with a 2018 congressional race. Not included in the database is the recent indictment in North Carolina of 19 noncitizens accused of illegally v****g in the 2016 e******n.

After the 2016 e******n, Trump alleged that as many as 5 million illegal v**es had been cast for his opponent, Democrat Hillary Clinton. But an e******n integrity commission he formed to investigate the matter did not turn up evidence of widespread fraud. Multiple independent studies by academic researchers and news outlets similarly found no proof of rampant fraud in the e******n.

“It doesn’t happen often at all,” said Justin Levitt, a law professor Loyola Law School and a v****g expert. “But when it happens it’s a one-off: One person decides to file a false b****t or something like that.”

Levitt keeps track of v**er impersonation and says it's extremely rare.

“I’m up to 45 since 2000, and in that time there has been more than a billion and a half v**es cast,” Levitt said.

https://www.voanews.com/2020-usa-v**es/how-widespread-v**er-fraud-us

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Nov 20, 2020 06:47:11   #
Big Kahuna
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
When they put Rudy in charge, even you know that it's over.


Rudy busted up the mafia in New York and will soon open and bust up the mega fraud that Slo Joe and his corrupt dem party have foisted on the American v****g system. Just as bathhouse boy ovommit was one of our most inept and corrupted presidents, Slo Joe will be one of the most corrupted ex-president elects to be nominated to the presidency. Slo Joe won't even put his dirty hand on the Holy Bible as this crook has broken every one of the 10 Commandments. He was recently denied the sacrament for supporting infanticide and the murder of 60 million babies.

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Nov 20, 2020 07:37:09   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
proud republican wrote:
Rudy Giuliani better have proof to all these allegations , otherwise he and President Trump's Campaign will be in huge trouble . ..


Whether or not it affects the e******n, it will draw attention to the Process itself... and we have four years to ensure it gets changed, or overseen, or wh**ever. In any case so much doubt and suspicion will be on the democratic/left that people will pay attention, and think very carefully before they ever v**e dem/left again.

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Nov 20, 2020 07:46:53   #
popscott
 
proud republican wrote:
Rudy Giuliani better have proof to all these allegations , otherwise he and President Trump's Campaign will be in huge trouble . ..


A prime example of our two tiered justice system....

4 years of Russia Russia Russia , 40 mil dollars Mueller probe, and a f**e impeachment and now Rudy has to have proof?????

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Nov 20, 2020 09:00:23   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Now that's Blind Faith


Not blind!!! God is awesome and very powerful!

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Nov 20, 2020 09:01:41   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
woodguru wrote:
25+ cases where they did not have proof to back the case, and ye of endlessly blind faith think this is anything but you think there is something there?


U are afraid that there is! C***tin ain’t beatin honey!!

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Nov 20, 2020 09:05:24   #
Big Kahuna
 
popscott wrote:
A prime example of our two tiered justice system....

4 years of Russia Russia Russia , 40 mil dollars Mueller probe, and a f**e impeachment and now Rudy has to have proof?????


So very, very true. Balsey Ford had no t***h either but it was headline news for weeks on end about the Kavanaygh lynching. How much t***h does one have to show before it becomes "The T***h?" Dems lies are even deemed t***h by them and the corrupt marxist media don't have an ounce of t***h in any of them.

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Nov 20, 2020 12:56:50   #
maureenthannon
 
Liberty, THEY HAVE TO SHOW YOU TO BELIEVE? I'm CURIOUS, DID YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE 2016 E******N WHEN THE LEFT RAN THEIR FALSE "TRUMP/RUSSIA COLLUSION", WHICH, NOT ONLY WAS F**E, BUT WAS PAID FOR BY THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND THE DNC?

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Nov 20, 2020 14:25:23   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
proud republican wrote:
Rudy Giuliani better have proof to all these allegations , otherwise he and President Trump's Campaign will be in huge trouble . ..


The first person to see their proof will be a judge, not Tucker Carlson. And I love Tucker, so far.

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Nov 20, 2020 14:36:33   #
Comment Loc: California
 
proud republican wrote:
Rudy Giuliani better have proof to all these allegations , otherwise he and President Trump's Campaign will be in huge trouble . ..


On what premise do U base your opinion?

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Nov 20, 2020 20:53:08   #
Carol Kelly
 
proud republican wrote:
Rudy Giuliani better have proof to all these allegations , otherwise he and President Trump's Campaign will be in huge trouble . ..


Dershowitz said they have the proof. They need an honest judge and to present the
evidence before time runs out. Newsmax tonight!

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