the beginning of the end! (Page 2): Guess what... Michigan @USPS Whistleblower Details Directive From Superiors: Back-Date Late Mail-In-B****ts As Received November 3rd, 2020 So They...

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

Guess what...

Michigan @USPS Whistleblower Details Directive From Superiors: Back-Date Late Mail-In-B****ts As Received November 3rd, 2020 So They Are Accepted

“Separate them from standard letter mail so they can hand stamp them with YESTERDAY'S DATE & put them through"

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

Where are the missing military b****ts in Georgia? What happened to them?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 6, 2020

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

Our lawyers just sent a criminal referral to AG Barr regarding at least 3,062 instances of v***r f***d. We expect that number to grow substantially. Thousands of individuals have been identified who appear to have violated the law by casting b****ts after they moved from NV.

— Nevada GOP (@NVGOP) November 6, 2020

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

John Binder, Breitbart. 5 Nov 2020:

There are at least 21,000 dead people on the state of Pennsylvania’s v**er rolls, according to an amended lawsuit filed on Thursday.

A lawsuit filed by the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) alleges that there are at least 21,000 dead people on Pennsylvania’s v**er rolls. The lawsuit claims that Pennsylvania failed to “reasonably maintain” their v***r r**********n records under federal and state law in time for the 2020 p**********l e******n.

“As of October 7, 2020, at least 9,212 registrants have been dead for at least five years, at least 1,990 registrants have been dead for at least ten years, and at least 197 registrants have been dead for at least twenty years,” the lawsuit states.

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

Daniel Payne, Just The News, November 6, 2020:

The an e******n-software glitch in Michigan’s Antrim County that had incorrectly directed v**es Democratic p**********l candidate to Joe Biden was fixed Friday, putting thousands of v**e correctly into President Trump’s totals.

The software had reportedly caused a significant number of v**es to be allotted to Biden in a county that has for years been reliably red. In the presumed final count, Biden had originally led in the county by roughly 3,000 v**es. Revised totals show that T***p w*n the county by around 2,500.

Addressing the alleged software glitch, Michigan GOP Chairwoman Laura Cox said Friday during a press conference that “47 counties [in Michigan] use this same software in the same capacity.”

“These counties that use this software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies,” she said.

PulletSurprise Loc: Columbus, GA

In the wake of President Donald Trump sounding the alarm on potential v***r f***d in the 2020 p**********l e******n, former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (D) on Friday accused Democrats of stealing e******ns for a long time.

“If the question is are the Democrats stealing v**es in Philadelphia, my answer is, ‘Is the Pope Catholic?’ It’s a time-honored tradition,” Blagojevich emphasized. “Big Democrat-controlled cities like Chicago, my hometown, Philadelphia, to do precisely what they’re doing now I’ve never seen such a magnitude because this I think is an indication of just how widespread it is, how deep it is. And I don’t think it’s just confined to Philadelphia. My instincts, again coming out of Chicago Democratic politics, my instincts tell me it’s going on in Atlanta, it’s going on in Detroit, it’s going on in Milwaukee, it’s going on in Las Vegas. It’s like what Justice Powell said about pornography: You can’t define it, but you know when you see it. And coming out of the Democratic Chicago political establishment, I know how they operate. They control polling places, they stop v**es when their candidate’s behind, and then in the wee hours of the morning, in the dark of night, the stealing starts.”

He continued, “And we’ve seen that in big numbers, unprecedented numbers in this e******n in Michigan and Philadelphia. It’s outrageous, and the fact that they’re doing it with impunity they’re doing it with is because the media is simply looking the other way because they have their corrupt mainstream media that’s not interested in protecting our Constitution or the rule of law. They just want to be Donald Trump at all costs, and they’re not just stealing from Donald Trump. It’s worse than that. They’re stealing from us — the American people.”

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

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Tug484

PulletSurprise wrote:

One sample:

In the dead of the night, around 4 AM, as Detroit, Michigan's e******n center closed; a white van, Chrysler 300, and a Ferrari delivered over 130,000 b****ts.

100% of over 130,000 b****ts were marked for Biden! Something stinks in Denmark.

Biden may be given the Presidency............. hook and crook!
When it's official, let the countdown begin... the beginning of the end!
So many willingly sell their birthrights!

If he can be found there is a male worker that was in the polling place. He was shocked 130,000 v**es came in, all for Biden.
There is a whistle blower postal worker.
There's evidence, the witnesses just need to come forward.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

PulletSurprise wrote:

John Binder, Breitbart. 5 Nov 2020: br br There a... (show quote)

That would be the responsibility of Republicans since they have controlled the state house since 2011.

What was your point again?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

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Bryan Cutler, the PA SoH, had the following letter hand delivered to governor Tom Wolf:
(This is essentially a statement of grievances, but it could easily serve as the body of an indictment of the PA supreme court for violating the US constitution and state e******n laws.)

November 6,2020

Tom Wolf Governor
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120

HAND
DELIVERED

Dear Governor:
As you are aware, the General E******n currently being conducted in the Commonwealth has generated a significant amount of interest among our citizens, who have been anxiously awaiting results since the e******n concluded at the lawfully enacted deadline of November 3,2020 at 8:00 PM.

For months, I, along with many members of the House of Representatives and Senate, have raised serious concerns relating to the administration of the e******n, specifically because this was the first full year Pennsylvanians would be able to use no-excuse absentee mail-in b****ts.

Unfortunately, some of the concerns that were previously raised have manifested into issues which cannot be overlooked.

First, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unconstitutionally extended the deadline to receive late b****ts and openly ignored the findings of fact and law that were issued by the Commonwealth Court. That issue is now being litigated at the United States Supreme Court. However, this judicial intervention created unnecessary chaos and uncertainty as to what constitutes a timely and lawfully cast v**e.

Second, your Secretary of State initiated another legal action in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to "clarify" whether signatures on returned absentee and mail-in b****ts could be reviewed for authenticity by counties during the pre-canvassing of b****ts.

Without permitting the House or Senate to intervene and defend the existing law, the Court unilaterally directed the county boards of e******ns to not reject absentee or mail-in b****ts for counting, computing and tallying based on signature comparisons conducted by county e******n officials or employees, or as the result of third party challenges based on such comparisons.

This, of course, is a significant departure from Pennsylvania law and practice, and it eliminated one of the most important security and anti-fraud features used with absentee and mail-in b****ts. It also treats v**ers who v**e on E******n Day in person different from those that used the absentee b****t or mail-in program.

Additionally, notwithstanding assuring the United States Supreme Court that late arriving b****ts would be fully segregated, the Secretary of State issued conflicting "guidance" to counties regarding how to manage late arriving b****ts. Full segregation, as initially contemplated, was replaced with guidance that encouraged the counties to process b****ts but keep totals separated.

Also, prior to e******n day, and in contravention of state law and a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling, some counties began pre-canvassing b****ts by reviewing the declarations to find "defects" which they then sought to have v**ers "cure".

The Secretary of State permitted these actions, which are now subject to several court cases in both federal and state courts. Not surprisingly, very serious equal protection rights issues now exist due to the disparate treatment of v**ers from different counties.

Further, poll watchers, which are the hallmark of our E******n Day process to promote t***sparency and fairness, were unlawfully denied the opportunity to meaningfully observe the proceedings of all pre-canvass and canvassing activities.

Finally, it is my understanding that among all our counties, an unprecedented 105,000 provisional b****ts have been issued.

Under our statutes, provisional b****ts may only be issued if there is an issue with a v**er (e.g. a v**er's name does not appear in the poll or supplemental poll book, a v**er was issued but did not successfully v**e an absentee or mail-in b****t).

Clearly, the significant number provisional b****ts are indicative of v**er issues across the Commonwealth. Governor, all these issues could have been avoided had your Secretary of State and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court simply followed the law as written.

The uncertainty surrounding these interventions has cast an unnecessary cloud on a process - the e******n - that invites our people to question the results, regardless of which candidate or party may prevail.

As such, and due directly to these issues (and any others that may arise), I am requesting that a full audit be conducted of the 2020 General E******n prior to the certification of any results.

The House of Representatives and Senate previously required a report of the 2020 Primary E******n (Act 35 of 2020), which provided meaningful, actionable information regarding the administration of the absentee and mail-in b****t program.

In response, the House passed House Bill2626 which would have provided remedies to nearly all the known issues. However, that legislation was not considered in the Senate because of your opposition to the bill and veto threat.

Now, we must take every possible step to ensure that all Pennsylvanians, and all Americans,know that our Commonwealth has conducted the General E******n with integrity. That can best be accomplished through an audit and a verification that our e******n law and processes were appropriately administered and followed.

Like you, I call on all Pennsylvanians to remain calm as we work through these issues.

If we work cooperatively to end the e******n in an open and t***sparent manner, then I am confident that regardless of winner, our people can accept the results.

Sincerely,

BRYAN D. CUTLER
The Speaker
Pennsylvania House of Representatives.
The letter

I compiled the following information from a number of credible sources.

Democrats spent the entire Trump presidency, particularly the last six months to a year, going into states and filing lawsuits, or colluding with democrat lawmakers and governors to change their laws to accommodate their nominee and the democrat party.

320 lawsuits were filed since the primaries across 45 states, D.C. and Puerto Rico. Almost all of them were filed by progressives in the democrat party. This is a record number of law suits. These suits pushed mail-in v****g, no signatures necessary, counting v**es well beyond e******n day, and in some cases, pushed to allow v****g to take place AFTER the polls close. They focused on swing states, battleground and purple states. They got what they wanted.

In September, Joe Biden's campaign formally assembled a war room comprised of lawyers who were fighting cases nationwide. Mark Elias, former general counsel for Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign and who was the slip-and-fall lawyer behind the infamous Steele dossier, was Biden's war room boss. (Elias is the head of the Political Law practice at Perkins Coie).

"We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics."
Joe Biden, October, 2020

Elias & Co were involved in more than 60 of the cases nationwide. In the few cases they lost, they claimed "v**er suppression".

Anyone who denies the democrats have waged an ongoing campaign to unconstitutionally and illegally corrupt our e******n and E*******l system to favor their candidates and their party has undoubtedly been deceived.

On another note, I don't want to hear any l*****ts talk about a "peaceful t***sition of power", given the "peaceful t***sition" that has been going on for four years, that dog just don't hunt.

Tug484

Blade_Runner wrote:

Bryan Cutler, the PA SoH, had the following letter hand delivered to governor Tom Wolf:
(This is essentially a statement of grievances, but it could easily serve as the body of an indictment of the PA supreme court for violating the US constitution and state e******n laws.)

November 6,2020

Tom Wolf Governor
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120

HAND
DELIVERED

Dear Governor:
As you are aware, the General E******n currently being conducted in the Commonwealth has generated a significant amount of interest among our citizens, who have been anxiously awaiting results since the e******n concluded at the lawfully enacted deadline of November 3,2020 at 8:00 PM.

For months, I, along with many members of the House of Representatives and Senate, have raised serious concerns relating to the administration of the e******n, specifically because this was the first full year Pennsylvanians would be able to use no-excuse absentee mail-in b****ts.

Unfortunately, some of the concerns that were previously raised have manifested into issues which cannot be overlooked.

First, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unconstitutionally extended the deadline to receive late b****ts and openly ignored the findings of fact and law that were issued by the Commonwealth Court. That issue is now being litigated at the United States Supreme Court. However, this judicial intervention created unnecessary chaos and uncertainty as to what constitutes a timely and lawfully cast v**e.

Second, your Secretary of State initiated another legal action in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to "clarify" whether signatures on returned absentee and mail-in b****ts could be reviewed for authenticity by counties during the pre-canvassing of b****ts.

Without permitting the House or Senate to intervene and defend the existing law, the Court unilaterally directed the county boards of e******ns to not reject absentee or mail-in b****ts for counting, computing and tallying based on signature comparisons conducted by county e******n officials or employees, or as the result of third party challenges based on such comparisons.

This, of course, is a significant departure from Pennsylvania law and practice, and it eliminated one of the most important security and anti-fraud features used with absentee and mail-in b****ts. It also treats v**ers who v**e on E******n Day in person different from those that used the absentee b****t or mail-in program.

Additionally, notwithstanding assuring the United States Supreme Court that late arriving b****ts would be fully segregated, the Secretary of State issued conflicting "guidance" to counties regarding how to manage late arriving b****ts. Full segregation, as initially contemplated, was replaced with guidance that encouraged the counties to process b****ts but keep totals separated.

Also, prior to e******n day, and in contravention of state law and a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling, some counties began pre-canvassing b****ts by reviewing the declarations to find "defects" which they then sought to have v**ers "cure".

The Secretary of State permitted these actions, which are now subject to several court cases in both federal and state courts. Not surprisingly, very serious equal protection rights issues now exist due to the disparate treatment of v**ers from different counties.

Further, poll watchers, which are the hallmark of our E******n Day process to promote t***sparency and fairness, were unlawfully denied the opportunity to meaningfully observe the proceedings of all pre-canvass and canvassing activities.

Finally, it is my understanding that among all our counties, an unprecedented 105,000 provisional b****ts have been issued.

Under our statutes, provisional b****ts may only be issued if there is an issue with a v**er (e.g. a v**er's name does not appear in the poll or supplemental poll book, a v**er was issued but did not successfully v**e an absentee or mail-in b****t).

Clearly, the significant number provisional b****ts are indicative of v**er issues across the Commonwealth. Governor, all these issues could have been avoided had your Secretary of State and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court simply followed the law as written.

The uncertainty surrounding these interventions has cast an unnecessary cloud on a process - the e******n - that invites our people to question the results, regardless of which candidate or party may prevail.

As such, and due directly to these issues (and any others that may arise), I am requesting that a full audit be conducted of the 2020 General E******n prior to the certification of any results.

The House of Representatives and Senate previously required a report of the 2020 Primary E******n (Act 35 of 2020), which provided meaningful, actionable information regarding the administration of the absentee and mail-in b****t program.

In response, the House passed House Bill2626 which would have provided remedies to nearly all the known issues. However, that legislation was not considered in the Senate because of your opposition to the bill and veto threat.

Now, we must take every possible step to ensure that all Pennsylvanians, and all Americans,know that our Commonwealth has conducted the General E******n with integrity. That can best be accomplished through an audit and a verification that our e******n law and processes were appropriately administered and followed.

Like you, I call on all Pennsylvanians to remain calm as we work through these issues.

If we work cooperatively to end the e******n in an open and t***sparent manner, then I am confident that regardless of winner, our people can accept the results.

Sincerely,

BRYAN D. CUTLER
The Speaker
Pennsylvania House of Representatives.
The letter

I compiled the following information from a number of credible sources.

Democrats spent the entire Trump presidency, particularly the last six months to a year, going into states and filing lawsuits, or colluding with democrat lawmakers and governors to change their laws to accommodate their nominee and the democrat party.

320 lawsuits were filed since the primaries across 45 states, D.C. and Puerto Rico. Almost all of them were filed by progressives in the democrat party. This is a record number of law suits. These suits pushed mail-in v****g, no signatures necessary, counting v**es well beyond e******n day, and in some cases, pushed to allow v****g to take place AFTER the polls close. They focused on swing states, battleground and purple states. They got what they wanted.

In September, Joe Biden's campaign formally assembled a war room comprised of lawyers who were fighting cases nationwide. Mark Elias, former general counsel for Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign and who was the slip-and-fall lawyer behind the infamous Steele dossier, was Biden's war room boss. (Elias is the head of the Political Law practice at Perkins Coie).

"We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics."
Joe Biden, October, 2020

Elias & Co were involved in more than 60 of the cases nationwide. In the few cases they lost, they claimed "v**er suppression".

Anyone who denies the democrats have waged an ongoing campaign to unconstitutionally and illegally corrupt our e******n and E*******l system to favor their candidates and their party has undoubtedly been deceived.

On another note, I don't want to hear any l*****ts talk about a "peaceful t***sition of power", given the "peaceful t***sition" that has been going on for four years, that dog just don't hunt.

Bryan Cutler, the PA SoH, had the following letter... (show quote)

Amen

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

What Biden actually said....

"Republicans are doing everything they can to make it harder for people to v**e – particularly people of color – to v**e. So go to IWILLV**E.com. Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration – President Obama’s administration before this – we have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from v****g by implying that their v**e won’t be counted, it can’t be counted, we’re going to challenge it and all these things. If enough people v**e, it’s going to overwhelm the system. You see what’s happening now, you guys know it as well as I do, you see the long, long lines and early v****g. You see the millions of people who have already cast a b****t. And so, don’t be intimidated."

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/bogus-v**e-fraud-claims-proliferate-on-social-media/

Blade_Runner: spreading misinformation full time. Pfft....

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Tug484 wrote:

If he can be found there is a male worker that was in the polling place. He was shocked 130,000 v**es came in, all for Biden.
There is a whistle blower postal worker.
There's evidence, the witnesses just need to come forward.

Then post your silly s**t.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Blade_Runner wrote:

Bryan Cutler, the PA SoH, had the following letter hand delivered to governor Tom Wolf:
(This is essentially a statement of grievances, but it could easily serve as the body of an indictment of the PA supreme court for violating the US constitution and state e******n laws.)

November 6,2020

Tom Wolf Governor
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120

HAND
DELIVERED

Dear Governor:
As you are aware, the General E******n currently being conducted in the Commonwealth has generated a significant amount of interest among our citizens, who have been anxiously awaiting results since the e******n concluded at the lawfully enacted deadline of November 3,2020 at 8:00 PM.

For months, I, along with many members of the House of Representatives and Senate, have raised serious concerns relating to the administration of the e******n, specifically because this was the first full year Pennsylvanians would be able to use no-excuse absentee mail-in b****ts.

Unfortunately, some of the concerns that were previously raised have manifested into issues which cannot be overlooked.

First, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unconstitutionally extended the deadline to receive late b****ts and openly ignored the findings of fact and law that were issued by the Commonwealth Court. That issue is now being litigated at the United States Supreme Court. However, this judicial intervention created unnecessary chaos and uncertainty as to what constitutes a timely and lawfully cast v**e.

Second, your Secretary of State initiated another legal action in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to "clarify" whether signatures on returned absentee and mail-in b****ts could be reviewed for authenticity by counties during the pre-canvassing of b****ts.

Without permitting the House or Senate to intervene and defend the existing law, the Court unilaterally directed the county boards of e******ns to not reject absentee or mail-in b****ts for counting, computing and tallying based on signature comparisons conducted by county e******n officials or employees, or as the result of third party challenges based on such comparisons.

This, of course, is a significant departure from Pennsylvania law and practice, and it eliminated one of the most important security and anti-fraud features used with absentee and mail-in b****ts. It also treats v**ers who v**e on E******n Day in person different from those that used the absentee b****t or mail-in program.

Additionally, notwithstanding assuring the United States Supreme Court that late arriving b****ts would be fully segregated, the Secretary of State issued conflicting "guidance" to counties regarding how to manage late arriving b****ts. Full segregation, as initially contemplated, was replaced with guidance that encouraged the counties to process b****ts but keep totals separated.

Also, prior to e******n day, and in contravention of state law and a Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling, some counties began pre-canvassing b****ts by reviewing the declarations to find "defects" which they then sought to have v**ers "cure".

The Secretary of State permitted these actions, which are now subject to several court cases in both federal and state courts. Not surprisingly, very serious equal protection rights issues now exist due to the disparate treatment of v**ers from different counties.

Further, poll watchers, which are the hallmark of our E******n Day process to promote t***sparency and fairness, were unlawfully denied the opportunity to meaningfully observe the proceedings of all pre-canvass and canvassing activities.

Finally, it is my understanding that among all our counties, an unprecedented 105,000 provisional b****ts have been issued.

Under our statutes, provisional b****ts may only be issued if there is an issue with a v**er (e.g. a v**er's name does not appear in the poll or supplemental poll book, a v**er was issued but did not successfully v**e an absentee or mail-in b****t).

Clearly, the significant number provisional b****ts are indicative of v**er issues across the Commonwealth. Governor, all these issues could have been avoided had your Secretary of State and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court simply followed the law as written.

The uncertainty surrounding these interventions has cast an unnecessary cloud on a process - the e******n - that invites our people to question the results, regardless of which candidate or party may prevail.

As such, and due directly to these issues (and any others that may arise), I am requesting that a full audit be conducted of the 2020 General E******n prior to the certification of any results.

The House of Representatives and Senate previously required a report of the 2020 Primary E******n (Act 35 of 2020), which provided meaningful, actionable information regarding the administration of the absentee and mail-in b****t program.

In response, the House passed House Bill2626 which would have provided remedies to nearly all the known issues. However, that legislation was not considered in the Senate because of your opposition to the bill and veto threat.

Now, we must take every possible step to ensure that all Pennsylvanians, and all Americans,know that our Commonwealth has conducted the General E******n with integrity. That can best be accomplished through an audit and a verification that our e******n law and processes were appropriately administered and followed.

Like you, I call on all Pennsylvanians to remain calm as we work through these issues.

If we work cooperatively to end the e******n in an open and t***sparent manner, then I am confident that regardless of winner, our people can accept the results.

Sincerely,

BRYAN D. CUTLER
The Speaker
Pennsylvania House of Representatives.
The letter

I compiled the following information from a number of credible sources.

Democrats spent the entire Trump presidency, particularly the last six months to a year, going into states and filing lawsuits, or colluding with democrat lawmakers and governors to change their laws to accommodate their nominee and the democrat party.

320 lawsuits were filed since the primaries across 45 states, D.C. and Puerto Rico. Almost all of them were filed by progressives in the democrat party. This is a record number of law suits. These suits pushed mail-in v****g, no signatures necessary, counting v**es well beyond e******n day, and in some cases, pushed to allow v****g to take place AFTER the polls close. They focused on swing states, battleground and purple states. They got what they wanted.

In September, Joe Biden's campaign formally assembled a war room comprised of lawyers who were fighting cases nationwide. Mark Elias, former general counsel for Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign and who was the slip-and-fall lawyer behind the infamous Steele dossier, was Biden's war room boss. (Elias is the head of the Political Law practice at Perkins Coie).

"We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive v***r f***d organization in the history of American politics."
Joe Biden, October, 2020

Elias & Co were involved in more than 60 of the cases nationwide. In the few cases they lost, they claimed "v**er suppression".

Anyone who denies the democrats have waged an ongoing campaign to unconstitutionally and illegally corrupt our e******n and E*******l system to favor their candidates and their party has undoubtedly been deceived.

On another note, I don't want to hear any l*****ts talk about a "peaceful t***sition of power", given the "peaceful t***sition" that has been going on for four years, that dog just don't hunt.

Bryan Cutler, the PA SoH, had the following letter... (show quote)

Auntie Dee

Lonewolf wrote:

If it were true it would be all over the news, the one who started that b.s. should be hung

NO, it would will NEVER be all over the MSM F**E NEWS, because they DO NOT WANT THE T***H TO BE KNOWN!

Haven't you learned at least that much in the last five years? IF you still believe everything you read or see on CNN & MSNBC you are INCREDIBLY UNINFORMED & NAIVE!