Nicholas Goldberg
Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 PM CST

Trump lashes out at the "f**e news" media, calling it "a great danger to our country."
This is going to d**g on now. There will be challenges and counter-challenges, lawsuits and recounts. Maybe protests, maybe violence. It’s been almost 24 hours since the polls closed and it’s uncertain when we’ll know for sure who will occupy the White House on Jan. 20.
But this much is clear: On one level, Donald Trump has already won. He’s won because he has sown exactly the kind of discord he thrives on. He’s won because he’s divided us still further in ways that will stay with us long after he has left office. He’s turned adversaries into enemies, undermined our democratic institutions and convinced us we’re c***ting one another.
At the moment, he is continuing to undermine the e*******l system itself with unsubstantiated charges of v***r f***d. When there’s chaos and confusion, he flourishes.
Even if Joe Biden ultimately becomes president — and he appears as I write this to have a pretty strong path to 270 e*******l v**es — millions and millions of people will have again pulled the lever for Trump.
For the United States to have elected Donald Trump once can perhaps be written off as an aberration, a dreadful mistake. Maybe v**ers in 2016 — a more innocent time! — thought he wouldn’t really follow through with his irresponsible campaign promises, or that he’d be sobered by the awesome responsibilities of the office or held in check by others.
But for tens of millions of people to double down and v**e for him again in 2020 is entirely different. It is an assertion by those v**ers that, yes, this is who we really are — and what the United States has become over the last four years is really what we want it to be. Their v**es send a message to the world that this bizarre and untrustworthy man didn’t weasel his way into the most powerful job in the world by fooling the great American people. Rather, he was — and remains — the conscious choice of too many.
That does not bode well for the months and years ahead. Even if Trump is gone, Trumpism, I’m afraid, is not going away.
Many Trump supporters say they see his character flaws but back him anyway because they trust him on the economy or they like his irreverent style or they’ve been persuaded that Joe Biden is senile. But the message they send when they v**e for him the second time is that they’re OK with self-dealing, bullying and lying. Intentionally or not, they’re giving a big thumbs-up to the way he talks about women, his refusal to denounce Q-Anon, the government dollars flowing into his hotels, his political chicanery in Ukraine, his racial dog whistles.
The president’s backers like to talk about “Trump derangement syndrome.” That’s the disease they believe afflicts Democrats, driving them so crazy with anti-Trump animus that they never gave him a chance. That’s why Democrats supposedly began fighting to undo the results of the 2016 e******n from the moment Trump took office. That’s why they invented the "Russia h**x" and the Ukrainian impeachment drama.
But if no president has ever been called out and challenged like Trump, it’s because no president has behaved like Trump.
One of the supposed symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome is a tendency to take him too seriously. After all, say his fans, he’s not doing so much damage with those outrageous statements and tweets. He’s just tweaking you; he’s just being Donald.
I could point to a million ways that’s not true, from his assault on objective t***h to his encouragement of fear and resentment to his demonization of opponents. But instead, let me single out one simple policy issue.
The most heinous crime of Donald Trump’s first term — worse than Ukraine, worse than Charlottesville, worse even than separating children from their parents at the border — is how he has handled the issue of c*****e c****e.
For four years, he has not just ignored and denied this impending cataclysm, but has actively moved us farther from a solution. He championed the coal industry, challenged fuel emission standards, encouraged the f****l f**l companies, disempowered scientists. Action needs to be taken immediately , according to the experts — years ago, to be honest — if we are to avoid the worst and most destructive effects of g****l w*****g. To lose four years to the Trump presidency was a disaster; to lose eight would be calamitous.
It seems a fitting capper on Trump's first term that on Wednesday the United States formally left the Paris Climate Agreement, the international treaty it helped create in 2015 to unite the world against catastrophic c*****e c****e. That treaty did not go nearly far enough, but for Trump it went too far.
He yanked us from it unceremoniously even though the effects of c*****e c****e are already upon us — longer and deeper droughts, wilder wildfires, more brutal hurricanes, record-breaking heat waves, melting ice floes.
If you need one example of lasting damage Trump has done, that’s it. His determination to reject the science of c*****e c****e is a crime against humanity.
He’s made his point and made his mark, to our detriment. It’s time for him to go.
Michael10 wrote:
Nicholas Goldberg
Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 PM CST

Trump lashes out at the "f**e news" media, calling it "a great danger to our country."
This is going to d**g on now. There will be challenges and counter-challenges, lawsuits and recounts. Maybe protests, maybe violence. It’s been almost 24 hours since the polls closed and it’s uncertain when we’ll know for sure who will occupy the White House on Jan. 20.
But this much is clear: On one level, Donald Trump has already won. He’s won because he has sown exactly the kind of discord he thrives on. He’s won because he’s divided us still further in ways that will stay with us long after he has left office. He’s turned adversaries into enemies, undermined our democratic institutions and convinced us we’re c***ting one another.
At the moment, he is continuing to undermine the e*******l system itself with unsubstantiated charges of v***r f***d. When there’s chaos and confusion, he flourishes.
Even if Joe Biden ultimately becomes president — and he appears as I write this to have a pretty strong path to 270 e*******l v**es — millions and millions of people will have again pulled the lever for Trump.
For the United States to have elected Donald Trump once can perhaps be written off as an aberration, a dreadful mistake. Maybe v**ers in 2016 — a more innocent time! — thought he wouldn’t really follow through with his irresponsible campaign promises, or that he’d be sobered by the awesome responsibilities of the office or held in check by others.
But for tens of millions of people to double down and v**e for him again in 2020 is entirely different. It is an assertion by those v**ers that, yes, this is who we really are — and what the United States has become over the last four years is really what we want it to be. Their v**es send a message to the world that this bizarre and untrustworthy man didn’t weasel his way into the most powerful job in the world by fooling the great American people. Rather, he was — and remains — the conscious choice of too many.
That does not bode well for the months and years ahead. Even if Trump is gone, Trumpism, I’m afraid, is not going away.
Many Trump supporters say they see his character flaws but back him anyway because they trust him on the economy or they like his irreverent style or they’ve been persuaded that Joe Biden is senile. But the message they send when they v**e for him the second time is that they’re OK with self-dealing, bullying and lying. Intentionally or not, they’re giving a big thumbs-up to the way he talks about women, his refusal to denounce Q-Anon, the government dollars flowing into his hotels, his political chicanery in Ukraine, his racial dog whistles.
The president’s backers like to talk about “Trump derangement syndrome.” That’s the disease they believe afflicts Democrats, driving them so crazy with anti-Trump animus that they never gave him a chance. That’s why Democrats supposedly began fighting to undo the results of the 2016 e******n from the moment Trump took office. That’s why they invented the "Russia h**x" and the Ukrainian impeachment drama.
But if no president has ever been called out and challenged like Trump, it’s because no president has behaved like Trump.
One of the supposed symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome is a tendency to take him too seriously. After all, say his fans, he’s not doing so much damage with those outrageous statements and tweets. He’s just tweaking you; he’s just being Donald.
I could point to a million ways that’s not true, from his assault on objective t***h to his encouragement of fear and resentment to his demonization of opponents. But instead, let me single out one simple policy issue.
The most heinous crime of Donald Trump’s first term — worse than Ukraine, worse than Charlottesville, worse even than separating children from their parents at the border — is how he has handled the issue of c*****e c****e.
For four years, he has not just ignored and denied this impending cataclysm, but has actively moved us farther from a solution. He championed the coal industry, challenged fuel emission standards, encouraged the f****l f**l companies, disempowered scientists. Action needs to be taken immediately , according to the experts — years ago, to be honest — if we are to avoid the worst and most destructive effects of g****l w*****g. To lose four years to the Trump presidency was a disaster; to lose eight would be calamitous.
It seems a fitting capper on Trump's first term that on Wednesday the United States formally left the Paris Climate Agreement, the international treaty it helped create in 2015 to unite the world against catastrophic c*****e c****e. That treaty did not go nearly far enough, but for Trump it went too far.
He yanked us from it unceremoniously even though the effects of c*****e c****e are already upon us — longer and deeper droughts, wilder wildfires, more brutal hurricanes, record-breaking heat waves, melting ice floes.
If you need one example of lasting damage Trump has done, that’s it. His determination to reject the science of c*****e c****e is a crime against humanity.
He’s made his point and made his mark, to our detriment. It’s time for him to go.
Nicholas Goldberg br Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 P... (
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Ur speaking of ovomit! President Trump is the best president we have had since Reagan, Washington and Lincoln! It’s ur ilk that has harmed this nation!!! U go away!!!
SGM B
Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
Michael10 wrote:
Nicholas Goldberg
Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 PM CST

Trump lashes out at the "f**e news" media, calling it "a great danger to our country."
This is going to d**g on now. There will be challenges and counter-challenges, lawsuits and recounts. Maybe protests, maybe violence. It’s been almost 24 hours since the polls closed and it’s uncertain when we’ll know for sure who will occupy the White House on Jan. 20.
But this much is clear: On one level, Donald Trump has already won. He’s won because he has sown exactly the kind of discord he thrives on. He’s won because he’s divided us still further in ways that will stay with us long after he has left office. He’s turned adversaries into enemies, undermined our democratic institutions and convinced us we’re c***ting one another.
At the moment, he is continuing to undermine the e*******l system itself with unsubstantiated charges of v***r f***d. When there’s chaos and confusion, he flourishes.
Even if Joe Biden ultimately becomes president — and he appears as I write this to have a pretty strong path to 270 e*******l v**es — millions and millions of people will have again pulled the lever for Trump.
For the United States to have elected Donald Trump once can perhaps be written off as an aberration, a dreadful mistake. Maybe v**ers in 2016 — a more innocent time! — thought he wouldn’t really follow through with his irresponsible campaign promises, or that he’d be sobered by the awesome responsibilities of the office or held in check by others.
But for tens of millions of people to double down and v**e for him again in 2020 is entirely different. It is an assertion by those v**ers that, yes, this is who we really are — and what the United States has become over the last four years is really what we want it to be. Their v**es send a message to the world that this bizarre and untrustworthy man didn’t weasel his way into the most powerful job in the world by fooling the great American people. Rather, he was — and remains — the conscious choice of too many.
That does not bode well for the months and years ahead. Even if Trump is gone, Trumpism, I’m afraid, is not going away.
Many Trump supporters say they see his character flaws but back him anyway because they trust him on the economy or they like his irreverent style or they’ve been persuaded that Joe Biden is senile. But the message they send when they v**e for him the second time is that they’re OK with self-dealing, bullying and lying. Intentionally or not, they’re giving a big thumbs-up to the way he talks about women, his refusal to denounce Q-Anon, the government dollars flowing into his hotels, his political chicanery in Ukraine, his racial dog whistles.
The president’s backers like to talk about “Trump derangement syndrome.” That’s the disease they believe afflicts Democrats, driving them so crazy with anti-Trump animus that they never gave him a chance. That’s why Democrats supposedly began fighting to undo the results of the 2016 e******n from the moment Trump took office. That’s why they invented the "Russia h**x" and the Ukrainian impeachment drama.
But if no president has ever been called out and challenged like Trump, it’s because no president has behaved like Trump.
One of the supposed symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome is a tendency to take him too seriously. After all, say his fans, he’s not doing so much damage with those outrageous statements and tweets. He’s just tweaking you; he’s just being Donald.
I could point to a million ways that’s not true, from his assault on objective t***h to his encouragement of fear and resentment to his demonization of opponents. But instead, let me single out one simple policy issue.
The most heinous crime of Donald Trump’s first term — worse than Ukraine, worse than Charlottesville, worse even than separating children from their parents at the border — is how he has handled the issue of c*****e c****e.
For four years, he has not just ignored and denied this impending cataclysm, but has actively moved us farther from a solution. He championed the coal industry, challenged fuel emission standards, encouraged the f****l f**l companies, disempowered scientists. Action needs to be taken immediately , according to the experts — years ago, to be honest — if we are to avoid the worst and most destructive effects of g****l w*****g. To lose four years to the Trump presidency was a disaster; to lose eight would be calamitous.
It seems a fitting capper on Trump's first term that on Wednesday the United States formally left the Paris Climate Agreement, the international treaty it helped create in 2015 to unite the world against catastrophic c*****e c****e. That treaty did not go nearly far enough, but for Trump it went too far.
He yanked us from it unceremoniously even though the effects of c*****e c****e are already upon us — longer and deeper droughts, wilder wildfires, more brutal hurricanes, record-breaking heat waves, melting ice floes.
If you need one example of lasting damage Trump has done, that’s it. His determination to reject the science of c*****e c****e is a crime against humanity.
He’s made his point and made his mark, to our detriment. It’s time for him to go.
Nicholas Goldberg br Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 P... (
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Nicholas Goldberg??? Little wonder he is so full of bile this morning, his is the picture that comes up when you google "F**e News". Just another hand wringing, scream at the sky liberal. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Michael10 wrote:
Nicholas Goldberg
Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 PM CST

Trump lashes out at the "f**e news" media, calling it "a great danger to our country."
This is going to d**g on now. There will be challenges and counter-challenges, lawsuits and recounts. Maybe protests, maybe violence. It’s been almost 24 hours since the polls closed and it’s uncertain when we’ll know for sure who will occupy the White House on Jan. 20.
But this much is clear: On one level, Donald Trump has already won. He’s won because he has sown exactly the kind of discord he thrives on. He’s won because he’s divided us still further in ways that will stay with us long after he has left office. He’s turned adversaries into enemies, undermined our democratic institutions and convinced us we’re c***ting one another.
At the moment, he is continuing to undermine the e*******l system itself with unsubstantiated charges of v***r f***d. When there’s chaos and confusion, he flourishes.
Even if Joe Biden ultimately becomes president — and he appears as I write this to have a pretty strong path to 270 e*******l v**es — millions and millions of people will have again pulled the lever for Trump.
For the United States to have elected Donald Trump once can perhaps be written off as an aberration, a dreadful mistake. Maybe v**ers in 2016 — a more innocent time! — thought he wouldn’t really follow through with his irresponsible campaign promises, or that he’d be sobered by the awesome responsibilities of the office or held in check by others.
But for tens of millions of people to double down and v**e for him again in 2020 is entirely different. It is an assertion by those v**ers that, yes, this is who we really are — and what the United States has become over the last four years is really what we want it to be. Their v**es send a message to the world that this bizarre and untrustworthy man didn’t weasel his way into the most powerful job in the world by fooling the great American people. Rather, he was — and remains — the conscious choice of too many.
That does not bode well for the months and years ahead. Even if Trump is gone, Trumpism, I’m afraid, is not going away.
Many Trump supporters say they see his character flaws but back him anyway because they trust him on the economy or they like his irreverent style or they’ve been persuaded that Joe Biden is senile. But the message they send when they v**e for him the second time is that they’re OK with self-dealing, bullying and lying. Intentionally or not, they’re giving a big thumbs-up to the way he talks about women, his refusal to denounce Q-Anon, the government dollars flowing into his hotels, his political chicanery in Ukraine, his racial dog whistles.
The president’s backers like to talk about “Trump derangement syndrome.” That’s the disease they believe afflicts Democrats, driving them so crazy with anti-Trump animus that they never gave him a chance. That’s why Democrats supposedly began fighting to undo the results of the 2016 e******n from the moment Trump took office. That’s why they invented the "Russia h**x" and the Ukrainian impeachment drama.
But if no president has ever been called out and challenged like Trump, it’s because no president has behaved like Trump.
One of the supposed symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome is a tendency to take him too seriously. After all, say his fans, he’s not doing so much damage with those outrageous statements and tweets. He’s just tweaking you; he’s just being Donald.
I could point to a million ways that’s not true, from his assault on objective t***h to his encouragement of fear and resentment to his demonization of opponents. But instead, let me single out one simple policy issue.
The most heinous crime of Donald Trump’s first term — worse than Ukraine, worse than Charlottesville, worse even than separating children from their parents at the border — is how he has handled the issue of c*****e c****e.
For four years, he has not just ignored and denied this impending cataclysm, but has actively moved us farther from a solution. He championed the coal industry, challenged fuel emission standards, encouraged the f****l f**l companies, disempowered scientists. Action needs to be taken immediately , according to the experts — years ago, to be honest — if we are to avoid the worst and most destructive effects of g****l w*****g. To lose four years to the Trump presidency was a disaster; to lose eight would be calamitous.
It seems a fitting capper on Trump's first term that on Wednesday the United States formally left the Paris Climate Agreement, the international treaty it helped create in 2015 to unite the world against catastrophic c*****e c****e. That treaty did not go nearly far enough, but for Trump it went too far.
He yanked us from it unceremoniously even though the effects of c*****e c****e are already upon us — longer and deeper droughts, wilder wildfires, more brutal hurricanes, record-breaking heat waves, melting ice floes.
If you need one example of lasting damage Trump has done, that’s it. His determination to reject the science of c*****e c****e is a crime against humanity.
He’s made his point and made his mark, to our detriment. It’s time for him to go.
Nicholas Goldberg br Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 P... (
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To our detriment, we may have the first woman, the first birther, the second mixed breed, America despising, Marxist President in the White House. It’s a lose lose situation for patriots. Mail in b****ts be damned.
Michael10 wrote:
Nicholas Goldberg
Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 PM CST

Trump lashes out at the "f**e news" media, calling it "a great danger to our country."
This is going to d**g on now. There will be challenges and counter-challenges, lawsuits and recounts. Maybe protests, maybe violence. It’s been almost 24 hours since the polls closed and it’s uncertain when we’ll know for sure who will occupy the White House on Jan. 20.
But this much is clear: On one level, Donald Trump has already won. He’s won because he has sown exactly the kind of discord he thrives on. He’s won because he’s divided us still further in ways that will stay with us long after he has left office. He’s turned adversaries into enemies, undermined our democratic institutions and convinced us we’re c***ting one another.
At the moment, he is continuing to undermine the e*******l system itself with unsubstantiated charges of v***r f***d. When there’s chaos and confusion, he flourishes.
Even if Joe Biden ultimately becomes president — and he appears as I write this to have a pretty strong path to 270 e*******l v**es — millions and millions of people will have again pulled the lever for Trump.
For the United States to have elected Donald Trump once can perhaps be written off as an aberration, a dreadful mistake. Maybe v**ers in 2016 — a more innocent time! — thought he wouldn’t really follow through with his irresponsible campaign promises, or that he’d be sobered by the awesome responsibilities of the office or held in check by others.
But for tens of millions of people to double down and v**e for him again in 2020 is entirely different. It is an assertion by those v**ers that, yes, this is who we really are — and what the United States has become over the last four years is really what we want it to be. Their v**es send a message to the world that this bizarre and untrustworthy man didn’t weasel his way into the most powerful job in the world by fooling the great American people. Rather, he was — and remains — the conscious choice of too many.
That does not bode well for the months and years ahead. Even if Trump is gone, Trumpism, I’m afraid, is not going away.
Many Trump supporters say they see his character flaws but back him anyway because they trust him on the economy or they like his irreverent style or they’ve been persuaded that Joe Biden is senile. But the message they send when they v**e for him the second time is that they’re OK with self-dealing, bullying and lying. Intentionally or not, they’re giving a big thumbs-up to the way he talks about women, his refusal to denounce Q-Anon, the government dollars flowing into his hotels, his political chicanery in Ukraine, his racial dog whistles.
The president’s backers like to talk about “Trump derangement syndrome.” That’s the disease they believe afflicts Democrats, driving them so crazy with anti-Trump animus that they never gave him a chance. That’s why Democrats supposedly began fighting to undo the results of the 2016 e******n from the moment Trump took office. That’s why they invented the "Russia h**x" and the Ukrainian impeachment drama.
But if no president has ever been called out and challenged like Trump, it’s because no president has behaved like Trump.
One of the supposed symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome is a tendency to take him too seriously. After all, say his fans, he’s not doing so much damage with those outrageous statements and tweets. He’s just tweaking you; he’s just being Donald.
I could point to a million ways that’s not true, from his assault on objective t***h to his encouragement of fear and resentment to his demonization of opponents. But instead, let me single out one simple policy issue.
The most heinous crime of Donald Trump’s first term — worse than Ukraine, worse than Charlottesville, worse even than separating children from their parents at the border — is how he has handled the issue of c*****e c****e.
For four years, he has not just ignored and denied this impending cataclysm, but has actively moved us farther from a solution. He championed the coal industry, challenged fuel emission standards, encouraged the f****l f**l companies, disempowered scientists. Action needs to be taken immediately , according to the experts — years ago, to be honest — if we are to avoid the worst and most destructive effects of g****l w*****g. To lose four years to the Trump presidency was a disaster; to lose eight would be calamitous.
It seems a fitting capper on Trump's first term that on Wednesday the United States formally left the Paris Climate Agreement, the international treaty it helped create in 2015 to unite the world against catastrophic c*****e c****e. That treaty did not go nearly far enough, but for Trump it went too far.
He yanked us from it unceremoniously even though the effects of c*****e c****e are already upon us — longer and deeper droughts, wilder wildfires, more brutal hurricanes, record-breaking heat waves, melting ice floes.
If you need one example of lasting damage Trump has done, that’s it. His determination to reject the science of c*****e c****e is a crime against humanity.
He’s made his point and made his mark, to our detriment. It’s time for him to go.
Nicholas Goldberg br Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 P... (
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great post thanks Michael....
SGM B
Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
Carol Kelly wrote:
To our detriment, we may have the first woman, the first birther, the second mixed breed, America despising, Marxist President in the White House. It’s a lose lose situation for patriots. Mail in b****ts be damned.
"Mail in" b****ts (not Absentee b****ts) are just the latest in a long line of demonrats scheems to "win" an e******n they had no other way to win. I saw the Trump rallys with thousands of attendees and Bribem rallys where he mostly was just talking gibberish - mostly to himself. Suuurrrreeee...Bribem and Heels Up Hairass won the e******n "fair and square", yeah, right - what a forking joke!
SGM B wrote:
"Mail in" b****ts (not Absentee b****ts) are just the latest in a long line of demonrats scheems to "win" an e******n they had no other way to win. I saw the Trump rallys with thousands of attendees and Bribem rallys where he mostly was just talking gibberish - mostly to himself. Suuurrrreeee...Bribem and Heels Up Hairass won the e******n "fair and square", yeah, right - what a forking joke!
They may not have won yet. But I see your point and I agree. The Democrats are getting rich off our country in crooked ways. Who vetted Harris for Vice President?
Who vetted Obama for President? Why doesn’t Maxine live in her district and are the majority in Pelosi’s district insane?
SGM B
Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
Carol Kelly wrote:
They may not have won yet. But I see your point and I agree. The Democrats are getting rich off our country in crooked ways. Who vetted Harris for Vice President?
Who vetted Obama for President? Why doesn’t Maxine live in her district and are the majority in Pelosi’s district insane?
Your questions are easy...
No one
No one
Too far "beneath" her
Yes, Carol - they are, certifiable.😂😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍
Michael10 wrote:
Nicholas Goldberg
Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 PM CST

Trump lashes out at the "f**e news" media, calling it "a great danger to our country."
This is going to d**g on now. There will be challenges and counter-challenges, lawsuits and recounts. Maybe protests, maybe violence. It’s been almost 24 hours since the polls closed and it’s uncertain when we’ll know for sure who will occupy the White House on Jan. 20.
But this much is clear: On one level, Donald Trump has already won. He’s won because he has sown exactly the kind of discord he thrives on. He’s won because he’s divided us still further in ways that will stay with us long after he has left office. He’s turned adversaries into enemies, undermined our democratic institutions and convinced us we’re c***ting one another.
At the moment, he is continuing to undermine the e*******l system itself with unsubstantiated charges of v***r f***d. When there’s chaos and confusion, he flourishes.
Even if Joe Biden ultimately becomes president — and he appears as I write this to have a pretty strong path to 270 e*******l v**es — millions and millions of people will have again pulled the lever for Trump.
For the United States to have elected Donald Trump once can perhaps be written off as an aberration, a dreadful mistake. Maybe v**ers in 2016 — a more innocent time! — thought he wouldn’t really follow through with his irresponsible campaign promises, or that he’d be sobered by the awesome responsibilities of the office or held in check by others.
But for tens of millions of people to double down and v**e for him again in 2020 is entirely different. It is an assertion by those v**ers that, yes, this is who we really are — and what the United States has become over the last four years is really what we want it to be. Their v**es send a message to the world that this bizarre and untrustworthy man didn’t weasel his way into the most powerful job in the world by fooling the great American people. Rather, he was — and remains — the conscious choice of too many.
That does not bode well for the months and years ahead. Even if Trump is gone, Trumpism, I’m afraid, is not going away.
Many Trump supporters say they see his character flaws but back him anyway because they trust him on the economy or they like his irreverent style or they’ve been persuaded that Joe Biden is senile. But the message they send when they v**e for him the second time is that they’re OK with self-dealing, bullying and lying. Intentionally or not, they’re giving a big thumbs-up to the way he talks about women, his refusal to denounce Q-Anon, the government dollars flowing into his hotels, his political chicanery in Ukraine, his racial dog whistles.
The president’s backers like to talk about “Trump derangement syndrome.” That’s the disease they believe afflicts Democrats, driving them so crazy with anti-Trump animus that they never gave him a chance. That’s why Democrats supposedly began fighting to undo the results of the 2016 e******n from the moment Trump took office. That’s why they invented the "Russia h**x" and the Ukrainian impeachment drama.
But if no president has ever been called out and challenged like Trump, it’s because no president has behaved like Trump.
One of the supposed symptoms of Trump derangement syndrome is a tendency to take him too seriously. After all, say his fans, he’s not doing so much damage with those outrageous statements and tweets. He’s just tweaking you; he’s just being Donald.
I could point to a million ways that’s not true, from his assault on objective t***h to his encouragement of fear and resentment to his demonization of opponents. But instead, let me single out one simple policy issue.
The most heinous crime of Donald Trump’s first term — worse than Ukraine, worse than Charlottesville, worse even than separating children from their parents at the border — is how he has handled the issue of c*****e c****e.
For four years, he has not just ignored and denied this impending cataclysm, but has actively moved us farther from a solution. He championed the coal industry, challenged fuel emission standards, encouraged the f****l f**l companies, disempowered scientists. Action needs to be taken immediately , according to the experts — years ago, to be honest — if we are to avoid the worst and most destructive effects of g****l w*****g. To lose four years to the Trump presidency was a disaster; to lose eight would be calamitous.
It seems a fitting capper on Trump's first term that on Wednesday the United States formally left the Paris Climate Agreement, the international treaty it helped create in 2015 to unite the world against catastrophic c*****e c****e. That treaty did not go nearly far enough, but for Trump it went too far.
He yanked us from it unceremoniously even though the effects of c*****e c****e are already upon us — longer and deeper droughts, wilder wildfires, more brutal hurricanes, record-breaking heat waves, melting ice floes.
If you need one example of lasting damage Trump has done, that’s it. His determination to reject the science of c*****e c****e is a crime against humanity.
He’s made his point and made his mark, to our detriment. It’s time for him to go.
Nicholas Goldberg br Wed, November 4, 2020, 5:10 P... (
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It might take awhile to recover from Trumpism, to get back to normal, feeling safe in America. I look forward to the time when I can look to the future with optimism after surviving four years of Trump.
DASHY wrote:
It might take awhile to recover from Trumpism, to get back to normal, feeling safe in America. I look forward to the time when I can look to the future with optimism after surviving four years of Trump.
Trump was ungracious when he won 4 years ago and now he is a poor loser.
Apparently his cult are also poor losers. Go sit in the corner and behave.
SGM B
Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
DASHY wrote:
It might take awhile to recover from Trumpism, to get back to normal, feeling safe in America. I look forward to the time when I can look to the future with optimism after surviving four years of Trump.
Is suspect you survived it very well, I know I did. Not sure how Bribem/Harris can instill any hopes of optimism, especially with the deteriated state of Slo-Joe. I believe if Bribem wins, by this time next year, if not sooner, we will have Harris as prez. I have no issue with a woman president and actually think it might be past time for one. However, I believe she should meet the qualifications - I do not believe Harris does, she does not meet the "native born" qualification as neither of her parents were US citizens when she was born. She is an "anchor baby" but not native born, thus not eligible for the office of President or Vice President.
For the life of me I will never understand why the Democrats seem to get their candidates from the bottom of the barrel? Also seems strange that Bribem would pick Harris out of all the other candidates running for President when she had so many nasty things to say about him in the debates and was the first one to drop out, due to no support. The Democrats didn't support her for President, but totally support her for VP beside a man who obviously seems unable physically (and possibly mentally, is Jill going to always be at his side telling him what to say??) to serve out his Presidental term.
I'm sorry DASHY, but I don't feel the same optimism as you.
SGM B
Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Trump was ungracious when he won 4 years ago and now he is a poor loser.
Apparently his cult are also poor losers. Go sit in the corner and behave.
You want to talk about poor losers??? Evidently you don't remember the vagina hats, the screaming at the sky, Madona stating she had "thought about blowing up the White House" and assholes roaming the streets destroying property during inauguration?? Yeah, how bout you go sit in the corner and behave.
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