The latest Biden scandal
Oct 27, 2020 11:47:06 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
SSDD wrote:
Again, if you say so.
Again, I will gladly co-sign the say so.
Thanks for the opportunity.
Oct 27, 2020 11:47:50 #
JFlorio wrote:
Exactly what I suggested. Exactly why I now realize he is a lying troll. Disparaged Tucker and anyone who watch's him. Guys a complete waste of time who's cognitive sk**ls aren't up to par.
Sorry, JF. Who were you referring to as a lying troll.
Oct 27, 2020 11:52:31 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Sorry, JF. Who were you referring to as a lying troll.
SSDD. Said he’s not a progressive. Wants proof but unwilling to even contemplate another opinion.
Oct 27, 2020 15:01:47 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
A former US Navy officer - not a anonymous whistl... (show quote)
Served a single four year term, that automatically entitles him to be believed regardless, is that what you are saying? Perhaps if he had served a career, served in battle or at least had SOME distinction to his service record, then perhaps he may be given some additional credibility based on his service record, a single, unremarkable, four year stint grants no one additional undeserved credibility. What about his service records gives YOU cause to lend extra credibility to his claims, extra credibility you don't also grant to H****r, also served AS AN OFFICER, ALSO IN THE NAVY. True, H****r's stint ended less than honorably, can we say beyond a reasonable doubt Tony's didn't? Do YOU know Tony's service record independently from what Tony himself says of it?
Exhibit A.
Tony Bobulinski wrote:
My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to H****r B***n and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
1. Odd that he "assumes" readers will assume the "statement of facts" to be a "form of domestic or foreign disinformation", suggests that it IS in fact a "form of domestic or foreign disinformation". You know the old saying, "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...", how does that end? Ah yes, that it is anything BUT a duck, right?
2. The pre-defensive reaction to any future evidence of disbelief of his "statement of facts" that he shows. Seems he wants you to know ahead of time that when you rightly disbelieve his "statement of facts" that he will not be pleased and will be offended.
3. Typically, when one prefaces a "statement of facts" with a confession that the statement will be considered false, it is typically followed by false statements. Seems pretty cut and dry here.
4. The wording in this "statement of facts" is not typical when the t***h is being portrayed, specific emphasis on, "That email is genuine.". Most would have included that declaration in the previous sentence with a simple "it is genuine".
Exhibit B.
Tony Bobulinski wrote:
I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence o... (show quote)
1. Notice the plea for additional credibility due to a family tradition of serving our country, one he himself barely provides lip service to with a singular four year stint. Notice a pattern here, 37 years, 20+ years, 28 years but Tony only served 4? Can we DEDUCT credibility due to his being a s**thead? All those family members serving careers in the military, including his own brother (28 years) and he just s**ts on the tradition with a measly, pathetic 4 years? Why bother joining at all? Why bother mentioning the service at all? What does it prove? That he is in fact a s**thead? Seriously, can we DEDUCT credibility for that statement?
2 Another plea for additional credibility based on a claim that he held a high level security clearance.
3. "I take great p***e in the time my family and I served this country.", repeatedly showing us what a s**thead he is? We should DEDUCT even MORE credibility for "repeated s**theadery".
Exhibit C.
Tony Bobulinski wrote:
If the media and big tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story. Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family’s name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.
1. "If the media and big tech companies had done their jobs", damn if that doesn't sound familiar, kind of like something we keep hearing over and over and over and over again, "It is all the media and BIG TECH's fault".... Damn, I know I have heard that same thing so damned frequently..... Ah, yes, the very same thing Trump supporters keep claiming, I knew I would remember where I kept hearing that same pathetic whine over and over. Wait.... I thought Tony was trying to imply being a Democrat supporter..... Is Trump and his supporters ALL closet Democrats?
B. 4. Yet another plea for additional credibility due to, "I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats."? Tony sounds like a Republican (not the only line in this "statement" where he sounds like a conservative) but implies that he supports Democrats? Sounds like another case of begging for additional, undeserved credibility based on what sounds to be a lie.
2. "Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country", What "long standing service"? Four years is "long standing". Lies do not lend credence to one's stories.
3. "tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.", come on already..... Okay... Let's divide this up some.
a. "tied to Russian disinformation", what "Russian disinformation"? There wasn't any "Russian disinformation" until this whole convoluted Biden scandal came out and then the only "Russian disinformation" was the scandal itself and the claims that there was any "there" to it.
b. "implied lies and false narratives" the only "implied lies and false narratives" was the shaky story so full of holes and obvious intent that it could ONLY be believed by those truly desperate enough for dirt on Biden to believe something, anything, even if so blatantly false.
c. "tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.", well of course. We all know the Democrats are the ones making ALL the claims that the MSM are so biased and "f**e news". ONLY an ultraconservative would EVER believe ANYTHING they hear or saw on MSM, right? In case it isn't 100% obvious, I am being facetious here, if this statement, "tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.", doesn't SCREAM "I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTING REPUBLICAN!", what will?
Wow.... I'm spent... So much revelation in so few lines and yet those blind to it remain blind? He screams out that he is lying, he screams out that the statement is "disinformation" (with a nod to who may be behind it all), he even screams out that he is either a dyed in the wool trump supporting Republican or parroting what one has told him and is likely paying him to parrot in this "statement of facts". If your eyes fail you, open your ears and hear the guy scream out the intent, to destroy Joe Biden's run for president and help Trump get re-elected. Being a patsy in this smear campaign, backed by Trump, his campaign and likely backed by Putin, Do you really want to be a patsy?
Take a good look at ALL the "evidence", take a good look at where it all comes from, who is leaking it to you? Consider timing, look to notice who benefits the most from any of this. It is all too obvious if one cares to see. This whole scandal has ALL the earmarks of a dis-information campaign and who are the "sheeple" that are taking the bait, hook, line, sinker, fishing pole, fisherman and boat?
There is no more gullible a mark than one eager to be fleeced.
Oct 27, 2020 15:12:15 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
SSDD wrote:
1. "If the media and big tech companies had d... (show quote)
Brevity would be more interesting to read....too long winded.
Oct 27, 2020 15:17:37 #
JFlorio wrote:
SSDD. Said he’s not a progressive. Wants proof but unwilling to even contemplate another opinion.
I have looked at mountains of so-called "evidence" and EVERY DAMNED PIECE of it is PHONY AS HELL!, come up with ANYTHING solid and we will talk.
Do you NOT wonder why ONLY RW media that have an obvious, clear bias is willing to report on it at all. Why doesn't reputable RW media cover it? IF there was any "there" there, don't you think reputable RW media would be all over it? Obviously the obvious holes in the story have escaped you. If you miss even the obvious, that bodes ill for your intelligence level and your logical thinking sk**ls, of which you do so enjoy bragging over, just never actually display. Show some intelligence for once, please, I am begging you.
Oct 27, 2020 15:18:08 #
SSDD wrote:
1. "If the media and big tech companies had d... (show quote)
You are Hillaryous, man, waste all that time playing word games with the testimonial of ONE man. All you had to say is, "I don't believe him."
Do you really think Bobulinski is the only source of intelligence and documentation of the Biden scandals in C*******t countries?
The corrupt Ukranian energy company, Burisma, employed H****r B***n in April 2014, less than a month after Joe Biden, Obama's Ukranian point man, met with Ukranian leaders. H****r B***n was paid $50,000/month and held that position until April 2017.
In February, 2014, the wife of the mayor of Moscow t***sferred $3.5 million to H****r B***n's investment firm, Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC.
Treasury reports rebut Biden's 'totally false' claims about H****r's cash haul
Oct 27, 2020 15:19:08 #
byronglimish wrote:
Brevity would be more interesting to read....too long winded.
Well, it seems people are having trouble seeing the holes for what they are, holes. That brief enough for you?
Oct 27, 2020 15:26:20 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are Hillaryous, man, waste all that time playi... (show quote)
I have REPEATEDLY stated that, you people DEMAND reasoning for it, you yourself blasted me for disbelieving this s**thead, making the claim that "He is a veteran" like that makes a difference, he is BARELY a veteran.
Did you forget this stupid comment that you made, "And you make some s**tbrained excuse why you think this man is a liar."? You chose to believe a blatantly obvious, unfounded, smear campaign and have the audacity to denigrate the intelligence of someone obviously smart enough to see the dis-information for what it is? Wow, just plain WOW! Hypocrisy runs strong in you.
Edit: For future reference, you know how you like to disguise the URL of your links? Even though I do know how to see through the disguise, I flat refuse to click or even check the URL of them. I have been flat refusing to click them ever since I discovered how much you love linking to Youtube videos made by raving lunatics of the fringe right. Yeah, don't bother posting "disguised" links to me, I don't check them. If you won't be honest enough to post the URL, I won't trust you enough to check them out.
Oct 27, 2020 15:28:33 #
SSDD wrote:
The only hole you can see for what it is, is the hole you've dug for yourself.Well, it seems people are having trouble seeing the holes for what they are, holes. That brief enough for you?
Oct 27, 2020 15:29:27 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Blade_Runner wrote:
The only hole you can see for what it is, is the hole you've dug for yourself.
He sounds an awful lot like soy boy Straight Up.
Oct 27, 2020 15:36:26 #
JFlorio wrote:
He sounds an awful lot like soy boy Straight Up.
Gotta love your paranoia and unfounded accusations. Perhaps if someone actually cared enough about you, they could use them to help you get the help you seem to need.
Oct 27, 2020 15:43:29 #
SSDD wrote:
I have REPEATEDLY stated that, you people DEMAND r... (show quote)
The H****r B***n corruption story now comes with receipts. Biden should have to answer for it
Longstanding claims of Biden corruption all but confirmed with H****r’s emails
At considerable personal risk, former Biden family business partners Tony Bobulinski and Bevan Cooney, and computer shop owner John Paul Mac Isaac, have come forward with tens of thousands of primary-source documents — internal corporate records, emails, and text messages — detailing years of business dealings that centered on trading on the Biden name. This material suggests that, despite Joe Biden’s insistence that he knew nothing about his family’s business deals, he was well aware of his son H****r B***n’s business ventures in China, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and elsewhere.
Treasury reports rebut Biden's 'totally false' claims about H****r's cash haul
Democratic p**********l nominee Joseph R. Biden flatly denied at Tuesday night’s debate that his lawyer son took huge sums of money from corrupt oligarchs and Chinese c*******ts during his vice presidency, but Treasury Department reports show that H****r B***n did receive the money.
President Trump chose to make an issue of H****r B***n’s cash haul from Russia, Ukraine and China with the implication that unsavory figures were trying to buy Vice President Biden and the Obama administration.
“When somebody gets 3½ million dollars from the mayor of Moscow,” Mr. Trump said.
“That’s is not true. That report is totally false,” Mr. Biden said.
A Senate Republican report by the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee says Mr. Trump is right, though it was not Moscow’s mayor, but his wife, whom the U.S. suspects of corruption in attaining billionaire status.
H****r B***n received a single wire t***sfer of $3.5 million from Elena Baturina. The Senate report said she became a billionaire through illegal construction contracts awarded by her husband, since deceased.
This is based on Treasury Department reports received by committee Chairman Ron Johnson, Wisconsin Republican, and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley, Iowa Republican.
The Senate narrative is not specific, but the types of t***saction records match the description of confidential suspicious activity reports that the Treasury issues when it suspects illegal activity.
The Senate report says, “On Feb. 14, 2014, Baturina wired $3.5 million to a Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC (Rosemont Seneca Thornton) bank account for a ‘Consultancy Agreement.’ Rosemont Seneca Thornton is an investment firm co-founded by H****r B***n that was incorporated on May 28, 2013 in Wilmington, Del.”
Russia invaded Crimea in Ukraine the month Ms. Baturina sent the money.
“Why did he get it?” Mr. Trump asked.
“That report was written for political reasons,” Mr. Biden said.
Mr. Trump asserted, “Once you became vice president, he made a fortune in Ukraine, in China, in Moscow and various other places.”
Mr. Biden responded, “That is not true.”
According to the senators’ Treasury records, it is true.
In April 2014, President Obama made Mr. Biden the point man in Ukraine, after the Russian invasion, to persuade leaders to rid the country of rampant corruption.
The next month, H****r B***n showed up on the board of directors of the energy company Burisma Holdings, which the State Department considers corrupt, as it does its oligarch owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. H****r B***n’s business partner, Devon Archer, already had secured a spot.
Over the years, Burisma paid the two more than $4 million. Treasury records show that 48 wire t***sfers from May 2014 to February 2016 totaled $3.4 million. The money went to Rosemont Seneca Bohai, a shell company run by Mr. Archer in partnership with a Chinese investment fund.
In 2014 and 2015, Burisma sent $700,000 directly to H****r B***n. After Mr. Archer was arrested on fraud charges, Burisma sent H****r B***n another $752,000.
On China, Vice President Biden promoted closer ties to the c*******t regime on many fronts. He traveled to China in 2013 on Air Force Two and took along H****r, who met with Chinese businessmen.
“China ate your lunch, Joe,” Mr. Trump said Tuesday night. “And no wonder your son goes in and he takes out billions of dollars. He takes out billions of dollars to manage. He makes millions of dollars.”
Mr. Biden said, “None of that is true.”
The Bidens have adamantly denied reports that H****r B***n’s investment firm received a $1 billion infusion.
But the Senate report documents extensive ties between H****r B***n and various Chinese entities that produced millions of dollars in wire t***sfers.
In one example, China’s CEFC Infrastructure Investment wired $5 million to HudsonWest LLC, a New York company jointly owned by H****r B***n and Chinese interests. HudsonWest then sent $4.7 million to H****r B***n’s law firm. The next year, another $1 million was delivered.
H****r B***n sent 20 wire t***sfers totaling $1.3 million to Vice President Biden’s brother James for consulting services. Treasury f**gged the t***sfers as potentially criminal, the Senate report said.
When the bank contacted James Biden’s wife, Sara, to learn details, she refused to cooperate, the Senate report said.
“H****r B***n has extensive connections to Chinese businesses and Chinese foreign nationals that are linked to the C*******t government,” the Senate report said. “Those contacts bore financial fruit when his father was vice president and after he left office.”
The Senate report also said H****r B***n sent money to Ukrainian and Russian women. The Treasury reports said the t***sactions are linked to “what appears to be an Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.”
Mr. Johnson, the Senate homeland security panel chairman, wrote in a FoxNews.com column Tuesday that liberal news media have ignored his report showing disturbing ties between the Biden family and corrupt people.
The Republican Senate report summarized its H****r B***n findings based on Treasury reports:
“The Treasury records acquired by the Chairmen show potential criminal activity relating to t***sactions among and between H****r B***n, his family, and his associates with Ukrainian, Russian, Kazakh and Chinese nationals. In particular, these documents show that H****r B***n received millions of dollars from foreign sources as a result of business relationships that he built during the period when his father was vice president of the United States and after.”
The report added:
“In addition to providing new and descriptive details about the nature, origin and extent of payments from Burisma Holdings to H****r B***n, the documents acquired by the Committees also shed light on a much broader array of questionable financial t***sactions involving H****r B***n, other members of the Biden family, and their associations with foreign nationals. These foreign nationals have questionable backgrounds that have been identified as being consistent with a range of criminal activities, including but not limited to organized prostitution and/or human trafficking, money laundering, fraud, and embezzlement.”
Oct 27, 2020 16:29:16 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
You don't mean this story Here do you? See, others can do it too.
Seen that all before as well. What? You don't believe me when I tell you I have looked into the "facts" before I decided it was nothing but a unfounded, smear campaign? I have told you, I looked at "mountains" of so-called "evidence". It doesn't matter how much f**e evidence presented, f**e scandals are still f**e scandals.
Note: I am still choosing to NOT bother with your "disguised" links, those two you posted in your latest replied were just as ignored as all the ones I have ignored to this point. Why you bothered posting two "disguised" links to me AFTER I informed you that I won't look at them is beyond me. Kind of reminds me of one definition of insanity, "Doing the same thing(s) over and over and expecting different results is the very definition of insanity". Are you attempting to create an insanity defense in a real life criminal proceeding using OPP threads as proof of your "insanity"?
Oct 27, 2020 16:35:25 #
SSDD wrote:
You don't mean this story url=://www.washingtonti... (show quote)
Joe and his Son are like two peas in a pud.
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