PeterS

Again, this is to be a stick in the eye of all CC's who believe that ours was intended to be a Christian nation and not a nation for all those who desired personal freedom.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Dispense with the notion that Christians see America as our church and explain what you mean by "Christian nation" and why the thought of it frightens you so.

PeterS

It frightens me for the same reason it would frighten me if we were founded as a Jewish nation, or a Muslim nation, or a Hindu nation, etc. Ours is a nation where our personal freedom was NEVER was tied to our religious beliefs. It's because of this that women gained the same rights as men and minorities gained the same rights as the majority. Why homosexuals were allowed the same rights as heterosexuals and atheists have the same rights as theists.

And yes I understand that these are rights are still a work in progress but without the ability to separate Church from State all constitutional arguments would be based on Christian tenets and no matter how religious our founders I doubt that there was a single one who wanted that fate to befall our nation..

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

6.6 billion out of the 7.8 billion people on this planet are religious. That is 85% of the world population, which is a pretty good indication that religion plays an important role in human affairs. It strongly suggests that the majority of the people on earth embrace a world view built upon a meta-narrative - there is an overarching story that informs their world view.

This is clear evidence that Theology must be applied equally with the other four disciplines necessary in the search for answers to the four age-old questions about human existence - Origin, Meaning, Morality, and Destiny. The meta-narrative opens the door to the spiritual nature of man and expands man's search for the answers to infinity.


You talk about freedom, about "personal" freedom, yet you imply that the only proper approach to life's enduring questions is to disenfranchise religion, to eliminate it from mankind's search for t***h, and limit that search to just a secular POV.

There are Holy religions and their are Evil religions, there are those who worship gods and there are those who worship demons.

For all the good and the evil religions have brought to the world, for all of the beauty and ugliness, the light and the dark, religion is fundamental to human existence. And therefore to the way in which we govern ourselves.

Big Dolly

I have to agree. In school, we were taught that freedom of religion applies to ALL religions, not just Christianity, or freedom to believe in NO religion, too. Besides, if history has taught me nothing else, it's taught me this: if you suppress someone's freedom today, then someone will turn around and suppress your freedom tomorrow. Is that what you want? Think about it.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

That isn’t the problem.
The problem is how powerful should religion aspire to be ?
Should the pope also be the president?
Should evangelicals be allowed to minister
Sharia Law ?
Should we put more Faith in Religion than in our government.
You see, it just gets stickier and when you decipher why would Evangelicals be pursuing a rise in power.
I gotta go with Ron Reagan on this one
Keep religion and government Separate.
If you want to know what Jefferson thought about religion look no farther than the Jefferson Bible.
Where he had clipped out passages and repasted them in his own bible.

Wonttakeitanymore

GO to China they believe as u do!

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

Agreed!

But one person's freedom must not violate that of another.

Freedom is being able to do the right thing. It allows us to become the best version of ourself.

Doing wh**ever you want is license, which often leads to a person's downfall.

Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile

It seems to me that those who disenfranchise religion are not deeply enough seeking answers to the questions of Origin, Meaning, Morality and Destiny. They embrace a rather shallow philosophy with creation as their god and they end their journey at that point rather than pressing on to find the creator.

There is a deep peace which comes with the overarching knowledge of the Creator.

Saint Augustin said, "We are made by God, for God, and our hearts are restless until they rest in God."