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Oct 16, 2020 17:31:20   #
moldyoldy
 
WEBCO wrote:
She had classified material on her server, already proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's a felony.

Erasing subpoenaed emails, 30,000, is a felony.

Destruction of government property, another felony.

She should be rotting in jail. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it. The only reason she isn't is because she's politically connected.



Most classified after the fact. Personal e mails were allowed to be deleted. Only the crazy right wing finds a crime in everything, until it comes time to charge with a crime and they back off because they know it is all BS.

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Oct 16, 2020 18:06:15   #
WEBCO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Most classified after the fact. Personal e mails were allowed to be deleted. Only the crazy right wing finds a crime in everything, until it comes time to charge with a crime and they back off because they know it is all BS.


You don't have any idea what she deleted, that's the point. We, the people, must believe what she is telling us she deleted. The point is she didn't have the legal right to delete anything. In my experience something doesn't get classified at a later date, this may have happened, but without the proper security clearance we will never know.

I'm not crazy...if I had treated classified information as cavalierly as she did I would be in Leavenworth. Why can't you just admit that what she did was criminally wrong? Not to mention an utter disaster when it comes to national security.

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Oct 16, 2020 18:22:52   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Even Comey admitted what she did was criminally negligent and gave her a pass.
WEBCO wrote:
You don't have any idea what she deleted, that's the point. We, the people, must believe what she is telling us she deleted. The point is she didn't have the legal right to delete anything. In my experience something doesn't get classified at a later date, this may have happened, but without the proper security clearance we will never know.

I'm not crazy...if I had treated classified information as cavalierly as she did I would be in Leavenworth. Why can't you just admit that what she did was criminally wrong? Not to mention an utter disaster when it comes to national security.
You don't have any idea what she deleted, that's t... (show quote)

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Oct 16, 2020 18:24:16   #
moldyoldy
 
WEBCO wrote:
You don't have any idea what she deleted, that's the point. We, the people, must believe what she is telling us she deleted. The point is she didn't have the legal right to delete anything. In my experience something doesn't get classified at a later date, this may have happened, but without the proper security clearance we will never know.

I'm not crazy...if I had treated classified information as cavalierly as she did I would be in Leavenworth. Why can't you just admit that what she did was criminally wrong? Not to mention an utter disaster when it comes to national security.
You don't have any idea what she deleted, that's t... (show quote)


Nothing was completely deleted. The FBI recovered everything.

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Oct 16, 2020 19:12:32   #
moldyoldy
 
JFlorio wrote:
Even Comey admitted what she did was criminally negligent and gave her a pass.


Not exactly what he said.

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Oct 16, 2020 19:36:59   #
WEBCO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Nothing was completely deleted. The FBI recovered everything.


If that is true she should have definitely been indicted by now. Anything not classified should be released for the entire nation to see.

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Oct 16, 2020 19:39:26   #
WEBCO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Not exactly what he said.


No he verbally changed what the statute reads. It was never his call if she should have been charged or not. Just more hypocrisy and covering for the deep state.

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Oct 16, 2020 20:56:47   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Not exactly what he said.


Well, Mr. perpetual whiner and victim. She did break the law. The same law that many in the service spent jail time for and did much less than her. Don't you have any moral code at all?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924

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Oct 16, 2020 21:41:20   #
moldyoldy
 
JFlorio wrote:
Well, Mr. perpetual whiner and victim. She did break the law. The same law that many in the service spent jail time for and did much less than her. Don't you have any moral code at all?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1924


In practice, however, law enforcement officials have set a high bar for prosecuting violations of those laws, looking for clear criminal intent, which Comey said was absent in the Clinton case. Because the government is awash in secrets, they are regularly mishandled unintentionally. In 2013, according to the National Archives, which tracks classification, executive branch agencies created more than 77 million documents with secrets in them, including 46,800 with newly created secrets. The FBI receives dozens of referrals of leaked classified information every year, according to Justice Department declarations to Congress.
https://time.com/4394178/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-investigation/?amp=true

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Oct 16, 2020 22:23:44   #
WEBCO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
In practice, however, law enforcement officials have set a high bar for prosecuting violations of those laws, looking for clear criminal intent, which Comey said was absent in the Clinton case. Because the government is awash in secrets, they are regularly mishandled unintentionally. In 2013, according to the National Archives, which tracks classification, executive branch agencies created more than 77 million documents with secrets in them, including 46,800 with newly created secrets. The FBI receives dozens of referrals of leaked classified information every year, according to Justice Department declarations to Congress.
https://time.com/4394178/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-investigation/?amp=true
In practice, however, law enforcement officials ha... (show quote)


Not if you're a government employee. You obviously have never had a top secret security clearance. You have to sign legally binding documents that explain the does and don'ts. You violate any of the guidelines and you are criminally responsible. If I told my parents where I was deployed too, I would have gone to Leavenworth. Criminal intent is simply what he, Comey,added. Intent has nothing to do with it...you either did or didn't.

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