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Has the recent escalation of Armenian / Azerbaijan conflict got anything to do with Trump or Biden.
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Sep 28, 2020 17:19:51   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
I think it has a lot to do with the assumption that Biden if elected will bring a new anti Russia policy to bear against Armenia supporting Azerbaijan's claims to disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region now Armenian, this is Biden's assumed position as a logical extension of Democrats policies for accountability in that Iranian Turkish region.

Already Biden is holding Russia to be "cynically providing" weapons to both sides when both Armenia and Azerbaijan are X Soviet Republics, huh !! it's only natural Russia wouldn't politically support one side over the other, so what Biden is really saying is that to oppose Russian influence what's necessary is to oppose Armenian claims to Nagorno-Karabakh, because it's an accepted fact that the Russian Federation because of their outspoken Orthodox Christian influence on the question of Nagorno-Karabakh support only Armenia in a moral sense.

That's not good enough for the Democrats who want a New World Order exclusively controlled by Financial Interests in other words Plutocrats such as Zuckerberg.

Turkey is primarily a Republic that can go with the West or East they have to support Azerbaijan because the Young Turks which o*******w the Ottoman Monarchy from 1908 to 1923 namely the Three Pasha's that evolved into the Armenian genocide of 1914.

After that and the loss of WW1 meant that the Turkish Republic was hinged on there being no genocide of Armenians as the British were sending troops fighting in Turkey for the restoration of the Ottoman Monarchical System in Turkey that was 1922, the British lost had to pack up and go home, but their failure led to Mustafa Kamal Ataturk founding the Republic of Turkey premised on there being no Armenian genocide, (correct me if I'm wrong).

Just another instance of Democrat mercenary attitude to history and t***h in general.

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Sep 28, 2020 17:25:49   #
DaWg44
 
Turkey i not a Republic. It is a dictatorship.

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Sep 28, 2020 17:27:06   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
DaWg44 wrote:
Turkey i not a Republic. It is a dictatorship.


Not true, Erdogan is a Popularist same as Trump.

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Sep 28, 2020 17:55:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
RT friend wrote:
I think it has a lot to do with the assumption that Biden if elected will bring a new anti Russia policy to bear against Armenia supporting Azerbaijan's claims to disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region now Armenian, this is Biden's assumed position as a logical extension of Democrats policies for accountability in that Iranian Turkish region.

Already Biden is holding Russia to be "cynically providing" weapons to both sides when both Armenia and Azerbaijan are X Soviet Republics, huh !! it's only natural Russia wouldn't politically support one side over the other, so what Biden is really saying is that to oppose Russian influence what's necessary is to oppose Armenian claims to Nagorno-Karabakh, because it's an accepted fact that the Russian Federation because of their outspoken Orthodox Christian influence on the question of Nagorno-Karabakh support only Armenia in a moral sense.

That's not good enough for the Democrats who want a New World Order exclusively controlled by Financial Interests in other words Plutocrats such as Zuckerberg.

Turkey is primarily a Republic that can go with the West or East they have to support Azerbaijan because the Young Turks which o*******w the Ottoman Monarchy from 1908 to 1923 namely the Three Pasha's that evolved into the Armenian genocide of 1914.

After that and the loss of WW1 meant that the Turkish Republic was hinged on there being no genocide of Armenians as the British were sending troops fighting in Turkey for the restoration of the Ottoman Monarchical System in Turkey that was 1922, the British lost had to pack up and go home, but their failure led to Mustafa Kamal Ataturk founding the Republic of Turkey premised on there being no Armenian genocide, (correct me if I'm wrong).

Just another instance of Democrat mercenary attitude to history and t***h in general.
I think it has a lot to do with the assumption tha... (show quote)


Well... Thanks for the research project

The only part I'm truly familiar with was the founding of the Republic of Turkey... And I see no reason to correct you there

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Sep 28, 2020 17:56:24   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
DaWg44 wrote:
Turkey i not a Republic. It is a dictatorship.


Turkey functions as a Republic...

Of course, so does China...

Why do Americans have trouble with other Republics???

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Sep 28, 2020 21:44:14   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Well... Thanks for the research project

The only part I'm truly familiar with was the founding of the Republic of Turkey... And I see no reason to correct you there


Thank you Canuckus, I remembered it from reading years ago about how the CUP (Young Turks) got Turkey into WW1, most Turks wanted to be with the Allies not the German and Austrians, but the British wanted Ottoman Empires overseas possessions which would have included the Suez Canal had Turkey joined the war with Germany and Austria and won.

That was the begging of the thinking behind the Balfour Declaration and Lawrence of Arabia who was a perverted homosexual, anyhow Churchill was behind taking possession of 2 Turkish almost completed and paid for ships (the most powerful battleships afloat at the time) being built in Britain, so to get even the Turks commandeered two German ships stranded in the Black Sea December 1914, they renamed the German ships and flew the Turkish colours and attacked the Russians.

That's how easy it was to end up on the wrong side, most Turks were wanting to either be neutral or join the Allies as a marker for the then very powerful Indian Muslims to oppose the antics of the q***r Lawrence of Arabia.


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Sep 28, 2020 21:59:14   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Turkey functions as a Republic...

Of course, so does China...

Why do Americans have trouble with other Republics???


Trump had no choice but to close in on China, it was a condition of his taking the top job, and Hillary going down, Obama was given the same command from the then most powerful defacto ruler of the US, Henery Kissinger, Obama would have done it but the Arab Spring called him back.

After the e******n Global economic growth will become the highest priority no matter who wins, don't worry keep cool.

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Sep 29, 2020 00:06:10   #
Sicilianthing
 
RT friend wrote:
I think it has a lot to do with the assumption that Biden if elected will bring a new anti Russia policy to bear against Armenia supporting Azerbaijan's claims to disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region now Armenian, this is Biden's assumed position as a logical extension of Democrats policies for accountability in that Iranian Turkish region.

Already Biden is holding Russia to be "cynically providing" weapons to both sides when both Armenia and Azerbaijan are X Soviet Republics, huh !! it's only natural Russia wouldn't politically support one side over the other, so what Biden is really saying is that to oppose Russian influence what's necessary is to oppose Armenian claims to Nagorno-Karabakh, because it's an accepted fact that the Russian Federation because of their outspoken Orthodox Christian influence on the question of Nagorno-Karabakh support only Armenia in a moral sense.

That's not good enough for the Democrats who want a New World Order exclusively controlled by Financial Interests in other words Plutocrats such as Zuckerberg.

Turkey is primarily a Republic that can go with the West or East they have to support Azerbaijan because the Young Turks which o*******w the Ottoman Monarchy from 1908 to 1923 namely the Three Pasha's that evolved into the Armenian genocide of 1914.

After that and the loss of WW1 meant that the Turkish Republic was hinged on there being no genocide of Armenians as the British were sending troops fighting in Turkey for the restoration of the Ottoman Monarchical System in Turkey that was 1922, the British lost had to pack up and go home, but their failure led to Mustafa Kamal Ataturk founding the Republic of Turkey premised on there being no Armenian genocide, (correct me if I'm wrong).

Just another instance of Democrat mercenary attitude to history and t***h in general.
I think it has a lot to do with the assumption tha... (show quote)


>>>

I dont give a rats ass what happens beyond my borders anymore... so they can bomb each other off the map for all I care...

And the ones that are here can pack up their crap and go over there and get involved and Good Riddance !

How’s that sound ?

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Sep 29, 2020 04:06:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I dont give a rats ass what happens beyond my borders anymore... so they can bomb each other off the map for all I care...

And the ones that are here can pack up their crap and go over there and get involved and Good Riddance !

How’s that sound ?


Like you are desperately seeking attention

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Sep 29, 2020 04:11:16   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

I dont give a rats ass what happens beyond my borders anymore... so they can bomb each other off the map for all I care...

And the ones that are here can pack up their crap and go over there and get involved and Good Riddance !

How’s that sound ?


It sounds very familiar, big mistake, your not the first to make it and you won't be the last, I'm not judgmental but I think probably you save yourself by adopting that attitude provided your not a deep thinker and analyse everything to the n'th degree.

If you did you probably convince yourself same as me that you have to take sides to convince others that you know what's going on in this Interdependent World.

That's why it's great for me to be able to post here on OPP by doing so I'm telling the folks that I communicate with in Turkey I'm not with them on this issue, probably doesn't matter so who cares , - not me, - but even so I still got an Internationalist perspective that gives me credibility.

But you don't have a dog in this race next month, so your cutting yourself short there too in my opinion.


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Sep 29, 2020 13:23:21   #
Sicilianthing
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Like you are desperately seeking attention


>>>

Nope, just setting the record straight and making sure everyone can see that real Patriots are here to make a stand...

The reckoning is coming no matter what and on many fronts.

Just wait till you see the next wild cards and false f**gs...

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Sep 29, 2020 13:24:41   #
Sicilianthing
 
RT friend wrote:
It sounds very familiar, big mistake, your not the first to make it and you won't be the last, I'm not judgmental but I think probably you save yourself by adopting that attitude provided your not a deep thinker and analyse everything to the n'th degree.

If you did you probably convince yourself same as me that you have to take sides to convince others that you know what's going on in this Interdependent World.

That's why it's great for me to be able to post here on OPP by doing so I'm telling the folks that I communicate with in Turkey I'm not with them on this issue, probably doesn't matter so who cares , - not me, - but even so I still got an Internationalist perspective that gives me credibility.

But you don't have a dog in this race next month, so your cutting yourself short there too in my opinion.

It sounds very familiar, big mistake, your not the... (show quote)


>>>

You can think what you like, I know Exactly what I’m doing and when the dust clears I will emerge as RIGHT !

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Sep 29, 2020 15:08:17   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You can think what you like, I know Exactly what I’m doing and when the dust clears I will emerge as RIGHT !


Ours is the Age of Communication, I think it started with high frequency FM band radio offsetting the regressive affects of TV until, and lucky for us, the internet spiralled our language stimulants into the wild blue yonder, if you really have been up there in the firmament you got to let folks know what you witnessed when you was there.

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Sep 29, 2020 15:58:06   #
Sicilianthing
 
RT friend wrote:
Ours is the Age of Communication, I think it started with high frequency FM band radio offsetting the regressive affects of TV until, and lucky for us, the internet spiralled our language stimulants into the wild blue yonder, if you really have been up there in the firmament you got to let folks know what you witnessed when you was there.


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Nahhh I’m over it... now I just stay focused on phase 2 of the Propaganda war...

Phase 3 starts after e******ns... you can kind’a see it ramping up now but it will really go full Throttle starting October 1 !

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Sep 30, 2020 02:15:33   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Nahhh I’m over it... now I just stay focused on phase 2 of the Propaganda war...

Phase 3 starts after e******ns... you can kind’a see it ramping up now but it will really go full Throttle starting October 1 !


The biggest building block of social impetus is believing in things about happen, something different intervening is always a problem, stimulus cheques are about to happen that's not propaganda that's something that can't go on for too long.

It's not only the US, also EU and Japan stimulating all about even, so far that group has spent $ 22 Trillion all together, heard it on Boom Bust today, that's not propaganda it is a fact of life and would not be a problem except there are 197 nations in the UN so that's 197 minus the 27 in the EU minus US and Japan plus the 4 Eyes that's left because the US is already counted, so that's 27+2+4 =33 nation states stimulating, 197 minus 33 = 164 nations that have to pay for that $22 Trillion by supplying goods and services for free because all those freeloaders run permanent current account deficits compared to recent spending on stimulus, we're talking trillions not billions a trillion is $1,000,000,000,000 the surplus current account of the EU for 2019 was $ 385,500,000.the US was in deficit that same year of $85,000,000.

Actually you might be right maybe it is time for a change.

No new cases of C****-** in NSW where I live because we took action so the change is unnecessary even if it does happen it shouldn't have.

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