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Peace Or War? Does Bible Prophecy Reveal The Next Steps In The Middle East?
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Sep 23, 2020 18:07:55   #
kemmer
 
Peewee wrote:
If it doesn't apply let it fly. We have never agreed on anything that I can recall. You could also look it yourself and prove me wrong. Too much work?

And now that you’ve stepped off into the deep end, I feel ever so much better about my earlier positions vis-a-vis you.

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Sep 23, 2020 18:17:26   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
And now that you’ve stepped off into the deep end, I feel ever so much better about my earlier positions vis-a-vis you.


Ditto.

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Sep 24, 2020 09:04:25   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
kemmer wrote:
Good Lord, what a freak show!


The Lord is good!! Hold that thought

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Sep 24, 2020 10:18:01   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
And now that you’ve stepped off into the deep end, I feel ever so much better about my earlier positions vis-a-vis you.


You should watch 'Out of the Shadows' documentary. Exposing the Sins of the MSM and Hollywood. The one that is 1:17:59. You may or may not learn a little bit. It's free and on YT.

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Sep 24, 2020 11:15:31   #
kemmer
 
Peewee wrote:
You should watch 'Out of the Shadows' documentary. Exposing the Sins of the MSM and Hollywood. The one that is 1:17:59. You may or may not learn a little bit. It's free and on YT.

Hahaha.... Did that YT say how the MSM has kept all quiet about that massive child sex ring that Hillary and Obama are running out of a St Louis pizza parlor?

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Sep 24, 2020 11:24:46   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha.... Did that YT say how the MSM has kept all quiet about that massive child sex ring that Hillary and Obama are running out of a St Louis pizza parlor?
Hahaha.... Did that YT say how the MSM has kept a... (show quote)


Watch it or not, no skin off my nose. Not my fault you aren't curious about anything you don't understand. I like to explore my world, not avoid it.

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Sep 24, 2020 11:27:23   #
kemmer
 
Peewee wrote:
Watch it or not, no skin off my nose. Not my fault you aren't curious about anything you don't understand. I like to explore my world, not avoid it.

Yeah, we've seen the results of some of your "exploring".

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Sep 24, 2020 11:29:25   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
Yeah, we've seen the results of some of your "exploring".


Your just one opinion, not a big deal.

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Sep 24, 2020 11:31:32   #
kemmer
 
Peewee wrote:
Your just one opinion, not a big deal.

So your opinion is that the pope and cardinals are under house arrest, and that Xi has disbanded the c*******t party and declared a republic?

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Sep 24, 2020 12:46:23   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
kemmer wrote:
So your opinion is that the pope and cardinals are under house arrest, and that Xi has disbanded the c*******t party and declared a republic?


Yep, but not officially. I think it's all an act while he purges the CCP or covers for the financial reset. Besides all the flooding there was a huge explosion in China from a sewer. I've heard that happening more and more this past year around the globe. Seems like a war is going on underground. Maybe it was methane or a nearby gas pipe. Just one of the many things that make me go, hum.

Or maybe it's the underground reptilians? I love a good conspiracy theory, like JFK, 9/11, and UFOs. Have you noticed all the star wars weapons coming out since Trump took office? Where have they been hiding them? Maybe his uncle really did get to Tesla's records first, ahead of the CIA?

He has NASA back on-line too. I also check the DARPA website every few weeks to see what they're working on that's new. Those are some really cutting edge inventors. Much more interesting than OPP and most politics. I only keep up with politics because it affects me directly, my nation, and the world. I'm just curious about a lot of things. It keeps my brain active while my body slowly ages.

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Sep 24, 2020 17:21:27   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Peewee wrote:
It's still iffy. Iran now seems to want a deal. It could be a head f**e. But ten Iranian government officials were decapitated a few days ago.

Cyprus seems to be winning in the UN against Turkey as far as their offshore rights being upheld.

The new leader of Iraq just fired a lot of corrupt government officials and Trump is allowing him to keep a lot of our equipment. Not sure where the oil Trump is keeping is at, Syria or Iraq.

So, I'm rereading scriptures and think it it could go either way. We could enter into a thousand years of peace or have a war very soon.

I've been researching Nesara and Gesara and if things go smoothly and all nations sign on to it, it would end all wars. You start a war and you're kicked out. Which means no one trades with you.

If the pope is the false prophet he is under house arrest, from what I'm hearing. Many Cardinals removed also. I can't prove it but people are saying Trump, Putin, Xi, and Modi are all working together to remove and crush the central banks. I'm hearing China is even a republic now and Xi is removing the c*******t. So I have to wait and see how things go. PM me and I'll give you links to research it yourself. If you want. But some weird things are happening and things are changing.

Even the royals in England have left Buckingham Palace and their crest is missing from the front gate. Some say King John III has submitted his claim to the throne, his real name is Joseph Gregory Halley. I'm beginning to feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone lately. I like what I'm hearing but cold hard facts are hard to come by. I keep getting the wait until Trump wins re-e******n. But more sites are coming on-line each day talking about it.
It's still iffy. Iran now seems to want a deal. It... (show quote)


It sounds interesting. I didn't know there was a King, I thought when Queen Elizabeth dies a lot of problems go with her.

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Sep 24, 2020 17:25:10   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Peewee wrote:
Ditto.


Peewee, Toots' IQ goes just so far. Digesting all that is a bit above what the poor thing can handle.

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Sep 24, 2020 17:27:23   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha.... Did that YT say how the MSM has kept all quiet about that massive child sex ring that Hillary and Obama are running out of a St Louis pizza parlor?
Hahaha.... Did that YT say how the MSM has kept a... (show quote)


Pizzagate quiet? Man are you in the dark.Oh, Obammy plays little part, Michael Robinson however...

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Sep 24, 2020 17:36:30   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Peewee wrote:
Yep, but not officially. I think it's all an act while he purges the CCP or covers for the financial reset. Besides all the flooding there was a huge explosion in China from a sewer. I've heard that happening more and more this past year around the globe. Seems like a war is going on underground. Maybe it was methane or a nearby gas pipe. Just one of the many things that make me go, hum.

Or maybe it's the underground reptilians? I love a good conspiracy theory, like JFK, 9/11, and UFOs. Have you noticed all the star wars weapons coming out since Trump took office? Where have they been hiding them? Maybe his uncle really did get to Tesla's records first, ahead of the CIA?

He has NASA back on-line too. I also check the DARPA website every few weeks to see what they're working on that's new. Those are some really cutting edge inventors. Much more interesting than OPP and most politics. I only keep up with politics because it affects me directly, my nation, and the world. I'm just curious about a lot of things. It keeps my brain active while my body slowly ages.
Yep, but not officially. I think it's all an act w... (show quote)


I know Xi had his own deep state and you can guess how he dealt with them.

Oh, I have conspiracy theory regarding JFK (I don't believe it, but I did see the pictures) that's weird. Want to really shake kemmer up? Counter-Intelligence was talking to me about "they walk among us," supposedly UFO extraterrestrials with the strength of 5 men have been here for awhile. I see that as disinformation, why did they allow the violence? I know Tesla's son is doing something but not what.

While I recuperate from surgery, I go to ProAmericaOnly. No trolls.

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Sep 24, 2020 23:13:48   #
teabag09
 
ziggy88 wrote:
Peace Or War? Does Bible Prophecy Reveal The Next Steps In The Middle East?
By Britt Gillette SEPT. 23, 2020
Conclusion by Pastor Gary Boyd

In recent decades, no area of the world has been home to more conflict and ongoing animosity than the Middle East. A cauldron of ethnic, political, and religious clashes, many believe the spark that ignites World War III will come from the Middle East.

Ongoing Hostility
Central to the region's ongoing conflict are Muslim hostility toward Israel and disputes over control of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. These are the exact events the Bible says will happen in the last days. The Bible says Jerusalem will be "like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger" (Zechariah 12:2-3). That's precisely what we've seen.

The re-establishment of Israel in 1948 led the neighboring Arab nations to declare war. In the years that followed, Israel fought no less than four conventional wars with its neighbors and has spent every moment preparing for all-out war.

For all of its 72-year history, the Arab nations of the Middle East have viewed Israel as a mortal enemy. The lone exceptions have been peace treaties with Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994). Yet despite those treaties, many of the citizens of those two countries remain hostile toward the Jewish state. Is that changing? Some say it is, and they point out recent events that promise to t***sform the Middle East.

One of those events took place last month. That's when Israel entered into its first peace agreement with an Arab neighbor since the 1994 treaty with Jordan. On August 13, President Trump announced the Abraham Accord - a peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.

The Abraham Accord is notable because the UAE is the first Persian Gulf state (and only the third Arab state) to establish full diplomatic relations with Israel. Ultimately, the agreement promises to build deeper cultural, economic, and military ties between the two nations. Diplomats claim the agreement is a template for establishing a new era of peace and prosperity in the Middle East.

Less than a month after breaking news of the Abraham Accord, President Trump announced a similar peace agreement between Israel and Bahrain. Like the UAE, Bahrain will establish full diplomatic relations with Israel. As if that weren't enough, in between the UAE and Bahrain deals, Trump brokered another deal that led Serbia and Kosovo to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

Common Need
What do these agreements mean? Do they really herald a new era of peace in the Middle East? Some think so. But it's more likely they herald a growing recognition on the part of many Arab Muslim nations of their common need to counter Iran's growing influence in the region.

All these nations have a shared interest in thwarting Iran's regional ambitions, even if it means partnering with Israel to do so. For that reason alone, many people believe we'll soon see similar peace agreements between Israel and other Arab nations, such as Oman and Saudi Arabia.

So is any of this in the Bible? And if so, what does it mean?

The Seven-Year Treaty
Students of bible prophecy immediately take notice of any peace deal involving Israel. Why? Because the Bible says an Israeli peace treaty plays a central and pivotal role in the end times.

Over 2,500 years ago, Daniel said a mighty ruler will enter into a covenant or a treaty with Israel for a period of seven years (Daniel 9:27). This treaty kicks off the seven-year Tribulation and makes the ruler behind it a major player on the world stage. Who is this ruler? None other than "the man of lawlessness" (2 Thessalonians 2:3) himself - the Antichrist.

Do any of the recent peace agreements qualify as the Daniel 9:27 treaty? Some say yes. They point out that the Daniel 9:27 treaty is a covenant made "with many," and in this case, we see agreements between Israel and many nations - the UAE, Bahrain, Kosovo, and Serbia - with the prospect of more nations joining in the near future. But that's where the similarities begin and end.

Antichrist
The treaty outlined in Daniel 9:27 is set for a specific period of time - seven years. None of the recent peace deals with Israel mention a period of seven years. Also, the man behind the treaty of Daniel 9:27 is a specific individual - the Antichrist. This is important to note.

Because when it comes to the recent peace agreements with Israel, the driving diplomatic force has been the Trump administration, and Donald Trump is not the Antichrist. Despite what many of his political opponents may think or say, he simply doesn't fit the profile.

The Bible describes the life and times of the Antichrist. It provides details in regard to his ethnic background and political career. Like Barack Obama before him, Donald Trump doesn't fit the description.

While people have accused every U.S. President of the past several decades of being the beast of Revelation, the Bible says the Antichrist will be the leader of a revived Roman Empire (Daniel 7). He will come from among the people of the Italian peninsula (Daniel 9:26), and He will be called the Assyrian (Isaiah 10:12; Daniel 8:9).

Furthermore, the Bible says the Antichrist will emerge from a group of ten kings (Daniel 7:7-8), and not all of these ten kings will willingly cede their power. Three will oppose him (Daniel 7:8).

None of these verses describe Donald Trump.

So unless a dramatic change takes place, the recent Israeli peace agreements are not the treaty described in Daniel 9:27. However, that doesn't mean they don't have prophetic significance. In all likelihood, they lay the groundwork for the treaty Israel will eventually sign with the Prince of Darkness, the lawless one, the Antichrist.

A Time of Peace
While the Bible doesn't cite any end times peace agreements other than Daniel 9:27, it does mention a time of relative peace Israel enjoys in the last days. The prophet Ezekiel described this time of peace as a time when Israel will be an unprotected land of unwalled villages - a time when Israel will live in great confidence of its safety (Ezekiel 38:11).

Massive Invasion
During this time, a massive coalition of armies will invade Israel from the north (Ezekiel 38:15; Ezekiel 39:2), and Russia will lead them. Known as the War of Gog & Magog, the invading nations are as follows:

Rosh = Russia
Magog = Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Afghanistan
Persia = Iran
Cush = Sudan, Ethiopia
Put = Libya
Meshech, Tubal, Gomer, and Beth-togarmah = Turkey

While the recent peace deals with the UAE and Bahrain aren't the covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27, I believe they're setting the stage for the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38-39. The battle lines of the Middle East are being drawn, and nowhere is that more apparent than in the official response to the recently announced deals.

Most predictable among them was Iran's reaction. According to Al Jazeera, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei accused the United Arab Emirates of betraying the Islamic world and the Palestinians. He promised the Emiratis will be disgraced forever, and the stigma of their betrayal will always be remembered.

It's clear Tehran stands against this alliance, but the most revealing reaction came from Turkey's President - Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Erdogan threatened to suspend diplomatic ties with the UAE and withdraw its ambassador after the Gulf state and Israel agreed to normalize relations.

Until recently, this would have been a surprise. After all, Turkey is a longtime ally of Israel. However, since Erdogan rose to power in 2003, he's slowly dismantled many of Turkey's democratic institutions. He's taken an antagonistic stance toward Israel and strengthened Turkey's ties with Russia and Iran. All that's left to permanently move Turkey into the Russian/Iranian sphere of influence is a clear break between Turkey and NATO. There are also a number of nuclear weapons located on a US military base in Turkey that are NATO controlled. Could they be held hostage in a run up to war?

Israel’s Northern Border
While we wait for that moment, the military forces of the three most powerful members of the Gog of Magog alliance - Russia, Iran, and Turkey - are now cooperating in Syria. This puts their joint military forces right on Israel's border. And not just any border - Israel's northern border.

This is where Ezekiel said the invasion force will come from - north of Israel (Ezekiel 38:15; Ezekiel 39:2). Is this a mere coincidence? I don't think so. Never in history have these three nations formed an alliance. Now, they're stationed directly to Israel's north.

God continues to set the stage for the fulfillment of the Ezekiel 38-39 prophecies. Turkey has made a strategic choice to align itself with Russia and Iran. The UAE and Bahrain have made a strategic choice to align themselves with Israel.

If Oman and Saudi Arabia follow suit as expected, it explains why these nations aren't part of the Gog & Magog alliance. Eventually, Russia, Iran, Turkey, and their allies will launch an overwhelming invasion force against Israel (Ezekiel 38:8-9). When they do, God will destroy them and display His power and glory for all the world to see (Ezekiel 38:23).

The Bottom Line
We'll have to wait and see what further developments take place before we can know for sure what the prophetic significance of these peace deals will be. None of these agreements are explicitly mentioned in the Bible, and none of them qualify as the covenant mentioned in Daniel 9:27.

However, collectively they're setting the stage for a prophetic event that will soon take place - the War of Gog & Magog invasion.

Never in world history have the invading nations of Ezekiel 38-39 banded together. Today, they have. Never before have Russia, Iran, and Turkey posted armies on Israel's northern border. Today, they have. Israel enjoying peace with its neighbors and a false sense of security is the only missing ingredient.

Once it's in place, the stage will be set for the fulfillment of the events described in Ezekiel 38-39. It's just the latest sign highlighting how close we are to the end of the age and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Conclusion by Pastor Gary Boyd

The first phase of World War Three, the Psalm 83 War, has begun as Israel is trading fire with Syria. As you may have already known the Psalm 83 War in scripture predicts a climatic, short protracted concluding Arab-Israeli war that will firmly establish Israel as a Middle East superpower that takes place before the War of Gog & Magog. The ancient prophecy from Psalm 83 written 3000 years ago reveals that the Arab states of Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iran and terrorist groups Hezbollah, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood will confederate, just as they now have done, to come against Israel and try to destroy her.
They have said, “Come let us cut them off from being a nation, that the name of Israel will be remembered no more.” Psalm 83:4. In the prophecy Israel defeats their ancient Arab enemies and will take back the Promised Land.

Damascus Destroyed
May I remind you that Isaiah 17:1 states, A prophecy against Damascus: “See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.” This has not happened yet, but will soon come into play. This Ancient Prophecy foretelling the destruction of Damascus and all-out war In the Middle East will soon be upon us!
The prophet Isaiah wrote about 10 separate and distinct “burdens” that will be coming to the Middle-East though not necessarily in order. The stand-alone prophecies specific to regions begin in Chapter 13 where he speaks of the “burden of Babylon” whose destruction would be by “a multitude in the mountains.” I will not go into them all at this time but if you read Isaiah 17:3-4 it states, “The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim, and royal power from Damascus the remnant of Aram will be like the glory of the Israelites,” declares the Lord Almighty. “In that day the glory of Jacob (Israel) will fade; the fat of his body will waste away.” This indicates a loss of Israeli life in the northern villages from the Psalm 83 war. Stay tuned things will heat up soon in 2021.
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I hope this holds but the UAE and Bahrain are broke and that may have affected this move. Then again some Baltic nations are moving that way. Hope it holds. Mike

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