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Sep 21, 2020 22:03:12   #
Tug484
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Ignorance. Critical thinking can't co-exist with l*****t groupthink. Not only are these people ignorant, they DEMAND that they stay that way. They refuse to accept anything other than the current narrative.


I was thinking also a bottle or some left handed cigarettes.
Their ideology only serves to hurt them in the end.

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Sep 22, 2020 08:03:37   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The things like Russia collusion that we thought mueller was investigating, it turns out he was blocked from looking into that. Why?


How was he blocked? Be specific and provide supporting evidence.

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Sep 22, 2020 08:56:50   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
How was he blocked? Be specific and provide supporting evidence.


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/amp33848359/rod-rosenstein-trump-russia-block-robert-mueller/

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/30/politics/trump-russia-investigation-rod-rosenstein/index.html

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Sep 22, 2020 10:25:07   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/amp33848359/rod-rosenstein-trump-russia-block-robert-mueller/

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/30/politics/trump-russia-investigation-rod-rosenstein/index.html


Okay, I have to give you kudos for responding with 'evidence'. However, both these articles use The New York Times, infamous for printing as 'fact' statements from unnamed and anonymous contacts, as well as all sorts of other unethical and biased lies, as their source. And all that source says is that Rosenstein limited Mueller from investigating Trumps financial dealings. Which may (more likely NOT) be true, but even if so, so what? That did not limit them from looking into collusion, for which they found no evidence.

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Sep 22, 2020 10:30:00   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Okay, I have to give you kudos for responding with 'evidence'. However, both these articles use The New York Times, infamous for printing as 'fact' statements from unnamed and anonymous contacts, as well as all sorts of other unethical and biased lies, as their source. And all that source says is that Rosenstein limited Mueller from investigating Trumps financial dealings. Which may (more likely NOT) be true, but even if so, so what? That did not limit them from looking into collusion, for which they found no evidence.
Okay, I have to give you kudos for responding with... (show quote)


He blocked him from investigating trump and Russia. The FBI did not investigate because they thought mueller was on it. Rosenstein played both.

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Sep 22, 2020 10:44:09   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
He blocked him from investigating trump and Russia. The FBI did not investigate because they thought mueller was on it. Rosenstein played both.


Moldy, the articles did not say that. Mueller DID investigate Russia and Trump....just not his financial connections to them. At least that is what the articles claimed.
Are inventing facts again?

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Sep 22, 2020 10:55:15   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Moldy, the articles did not say that. Mueller DID investigate Russia and Trump....just not his financial connections to them. At least that is what the articles claimed.
Are inventing facts again?


The Department of Justice in 2017 narrowed the scope of its investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 e******n, cutting short a probe into President Trump's business ties to Moscow, The New York Times reported.

Then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein limited the investigation to exclude those ties without telling the FBI, according to the Times. Andrew McCabe, who served as deputy FBI director at the time, told the newspaper that Rosenstein did not tell him that he was limiting the probe, leading McCabe to believe special counsel Robert Mueller would investigate the president's business connections. McCabe added that he would have tasked the FBI with that aspect of the inquiry had he known Mueller would not investigate it.

"We opened this case in May 2017 because we had information that indicated a national security threat might exist, specifically a counterintelligence threat involving the president and Russia," McCabe told the Times. "I expected that issue and issues related to it would be fully examined by the special counsel team. If a decision was made not to investigate those issues, I am surprised and disappointed. I was not aware of that."

When he installed Mueller as special counsel in May 2017, Rosenstein gave him the mandate of investigating "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government" and the Trump campaign.



In private, however, Rosenstein directed Mueller to limit his investigation to any lawbreaking in connection with Russian e******n i**********e, the Times reported, citing former law enforcement officials.

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Sep 22, 2020 11:23:25   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Isn't that what I said?
There is a lot of innuendo mixed in there, but that is typical of the rag NYTs. Do you really consider McCabe a credible source? The folks you are using to support your statements are, in case you did not know, under investigation themselves, essentially for violating their oaths in order to help out the democrats. Let's see where that goes, shall we? In the meantime, let's try not to use guesswork and twisted statements from corrupt officials as gospel.

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Sep 22, 2020 12:01:47   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Isn't that what I said?
There is a lot of innuendo mixed in there, but that is typical of the rag NYTs. Do you really consider McCabe a credible source? The folks you are using to support your statements are, in case you did not know, under investigation themselves, essentially for violating their oaths in order to help out the democrats. Let's see where that goes, shall we? In the meantime, let's try not to use guesswork and twisted statements from corrupt officials as gospel.


Rosenstein admitted what he did.

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Sep 22, 2020 12:05:13   #
Capt-jack Loc: Home
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You mean the red necks running around in camouf**ge who were too scared or too dumb to join the military.


You have no idea what a red neck is. But any of them could kick your ass.

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Sep 22, 2020 16:36:33   #
Tug484
 
Capt-jack wrote:
You have no idea what a red neck is. But any of them could kick your ass.


Boy, that's the t***h.
Those red necks work hard and have muscles built up to prove it.
Butt kickin' is their thang!

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Sep 22, 2020 17:23:31   #
moldyoldy
 
Tug484 wrote:
Boy, that's the t***h.
Those red necks work hard and have muscles built up to prove it.
Butt kickin' is their thang!


Drinking moonshine and hunting possums is all they do

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Sep 22, 2020 20:50:30   #
Tug484
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Drinking moonshine and hunting possums is all they do


Not out here.
Beer and boot scootin'!
I've seen plenty of their fights!

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Sep 23, 2020 06:46:02   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Rosenstein admitted what he did.


He admitted to limiting the investigation from certain areas. That is not the same as ending it. Mueller CLEARLY looked into Trump colluding with Russia, and found no credible evidence. I know it's a hard concept, the idea that Trump did not do it. It requires any reasonably ethical and intelligent person to reevaluate what they have believed for the past four years, and WHOM they have faithfully listened to for their information.
Some people, however, have a limited ability to understand and accept facts that contradict their hard held beliefs, no matter how misguided they have proven to be. Such people are looked on with scorn, or pity, and are referred to by many various demeaning names, the most common of which is 'democrat v**er'.

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Sep 23, 2020 08:29:48   #
moldyoldy
 
RandyBrian wrote:
He admitted to limiting the investigation from certain areas. That is not the same as ending it. Mueller CLEARLY looked into Trump colluding with Russia, and found no credible evidence. I know it's a hard concept, the idea that Trump did not do it. It requires any reasonably ethical and intelligent person to reevaluate what they have believed for the past four years, and WHOM they have faithfully listened to for their information.
Some people, however, have a limited ability to understand and accept facts that contradict their hard held beliefs, no matter how misguided they have proven to be. Such people are looked on with scorn, or pity, and are referred to by many various demeaning names, the most common of which is 'democrat v**er'.
He admitted to limiting the investigation from cer... (show quote)


You are hopeless. I will stick to facts.

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