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"...of a white Christmas just like the ones I used to know." That's all I knew. Lived in a segregated community into my mid-twenties.
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Sep 17, 2020 21:37:44   #
rumitoid
 
I did not know that at the time; it was just the way it was. Not until HS did I know the first name of a "colored" personally. I do not remember any words openly spoken about Negroes. My father hired the first Negro at the NYC Building Department. My mother was very good friends with a black housekeeping women where we vacationed, and I mean they were actually close.

As far as anyone appeared to know at the time was that the owners of the housing project Parkchester in da Bronx, Met Life, had such a reasonable long list of applicants, few apartments were available for years and years. And there was justifiable reason to believe that point. I will not go into the tremendous qualities of this community but they were incredible. Every middle to upper class family would envy and desire living there. But mostly second generation did, striving for the American dream (now a thing of the past, thanks to Trump.)

Yet that is not my point. It is that such seemingly good or innocuous sentiments about the supposed "good old days" can be fodder for resentment and fear and hatred. There were never "good old days" for all. The horrors that occur today happen then. I grew up in the 50s and 60s: ask a Negro if it was "the good old days"? Privilege alone has such a delusional belief. The time of "the good old days" never existed and never will.

My growing up in that era was idyllic. Yes, we had some problems but were somewhat isolated. Minor stuff, not lynchings, and police dogs, and Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, and C*******t oppression, and so forth ad infinitum. It was "good" only from privilege, a delightful and intoxicating illusion. Not that my memories, or yours, were an illusion but that they did include the whole picture, which was fine at the time; no reason for it. But today we have to see there is more to life than our personal experience: it is not a standard of what should be. But it seems Trump's troops think so.

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Sep 17, 2020 21:55:45   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
I did not know that at the time; it was just the way it was. Not until HS did I know the first name of a "colored" personally. I do not remember any words openly spoken about Negroes. My father hired the first Negro at the NYC Building Department. My mother was very good friends with a black housekeeping women where we vacationed, and I mean they were actually close.

As far as anyone appeared to know at the time was that the owners of the housing project Parkchester in da Bronx, Met Life, had such a reasonable long list of applicants, few apartments were available for years and years. And there was justifiable reason to believe that point. I will not go into the tremendous qualities of this community but they were incredible. Every middle to upper class family would envy and desire living there. But mostly second generation did, striving for the American dream (now a thing of the past, thanks to Trump.)

Yet that is not my point. It is that such seemingly good or innocuous sentiments about the supposed "good old days" can be fodder for resentment and fear and hatred. There were never "good old days" for all. The horrors that occur today happen then. I grew up in the 50s and 60s: ask a Negro if it was "the good old days"? Privilege alone has such a delusional belief. The time of "the good old days" never existed and never will.

My growing up in that era was idyllic. Yes, we had some problems but were somewhat isolated. Minor stuff, not lynchings, and police dogs, and Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, and C*******t oppression, and so forth ad infinitum. It was "good" only from privilege, a delightful and intoxicating illusion. Not that my memories, or yours, were an illusion but that they did include the whole picture, which was fine at the time; no reason for it. But today we have to see there is more to life than our personal experience: it is not a standard of what should be. But it seems Trump's troops think so.
I did not know that at the time; it was just the w... (show quote)


White Christmas makes you think of segregated society?????????

You must truly be a miserable person

Is there anything that brings you joy?

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Sep 17, 2020 21:59:16   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
I did not know that at the time; it was just the way it was. Not until HS did I know the first name of a "colored" personally. I do not remember any words openly spoken about Negroes. My father hired the first Negro at the NYC Building Department. My mother was very good friends with a black housekeeping women where we vacationed, and I mean they were actually close.

As far as anyone appeared to know at the time was that the owners of the housing project Parkchester in da Bronx, Met Life, had such a reasonable long list of applicants, few apartments were available for years and years. And there was justifiable reason to believe that point. I will not go into the tremendous qualities of this community but they were incredible. Every middle to upper class family would envy and desire living there. But mostly second generation did, striving for the American dream (now a thing of the past, thanks to Trump.)

Yet that is not my point. It is that such seemingly good or innocuous sentiments about the supposed "good old days" can be fodder for resentment and fear and hatred. There were never "good old days" for all. The horrors that occur today happen then. I grew up in the 50s and 60s: ask a Negro if it was "the good old days"? Privilege alone has such a delusional belief. The time of "the good old days" never existed and never will.

My growing up in that era was idyllic. Yes, we had some problems but were somewhat isolated. Minor stuff, not lynchings, and police dogs, and Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, and C*******t oppression, and so forth ad infinitum. It was "good" only from privilege, a delightful and intoxicating illusion. Not that my memories, or yours, were an illusion but that they did include the whole picture, which was fine at the time; no reason for it. But today we have to see there is more to life than our personal experience: it is not a standard of what should be. But it seems Trump's troops think so.
I did not know that at the time; it was just the w... (show quote)





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Sep 17, 2020 22:17:49   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
White Christmas makes you think of segregated society?????????

You must truly be a miserable person

Is there anything that brings you joy?
i White Christmas /i makes you think of segregat... (show quote)


It does not make me think of a segregated society, that was a fact; it was my reality; are you paying attention, it was my life, lol. Open your eyes.

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Sep 17, 2020 22:19:14   #
rumitoid
 
H**e has a place...in hell.

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Sep 17, 2020 22:48:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
rumitoid wrote:
H**e has a place...in hell.


Yes,Rumi!! Your h**e for President and his supporters will k**l you someday . . H**e is not good thing . .)

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Sep 17, 2020 22:55:54   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Christmas song lyrics by Sammy Davis Jr
The Christmas Song Lyrics

All through the year we've waited
Waited through spring and fall
To hear silver bells ringing
And winter-time bringing
The happiest season of all

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire
Jack Frost nipping at your nose
Yule-tide carols being sung by a choir
And folks dressed up like Eskimos

Everybody knows a turkey
And some mistletoe
Will help to make the season bright
And tiny tots with their eyes all aglow
Will find it hard to sleep tonight
https://genius.com/Sammy-davis-jr-the-christmas-song-lyrics

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Sep 17, 2020 23:44:43   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
White Christmas makes you think of segregated society?????????

You must truly be a miserable person

Is there anything that brings you joy?
i White Christmas /i makes you think of segregat... (show quote)


Lol, haha. Open your mind and read what I wrote.

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Sep 17, 2020 23:45:41   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
Yes,Rumi!! Your h**e for President and his supporters will k**l you someday . . H**e is not good thing . .)


That it what I said.

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Sep 18, 2020 00:00:13   #
CarryOn
 
rumitoid wrote:
I did not know that at the time; it was just the way it was. Not until HS did I know the first name of a "colored" personally. I do not remember any words openly spoken about Negroes. My father hired the first Negro at the NYC Building Department. My mother was very good friends with a black housekeeping women where we vacationed, and I mean they were actually close.

As far as anyone appeared to know at the time was that the owners of the housing project Parkchester in da Bronx, Met Life, had such a reasonable long list of applicants, few apartments were available for years and years. And there was justifiable reason to believe that point. I will not go into the tremendous qualities of this community but they were incredible. Every middle to upper class family would envy and desire living there. But mostly second generation did, striving for the American dream (now a thing of the past, thanks to Trump.)

Yet that is not my point. It is that such seemingly good or innocuous sentiments about the supposed "good old days" can be fodder for resentment and fear and hatred. There were never "good old days" for all. The horrors that occur today happen then. I grew up in the 50s and 60s: ask a Negro if it was "the good old days"? Privilege alone has such a delusional belief. The time of "the good old days" never existed and never will.

My growing up in that era was idyllic. Yes, we had some problems but were somewhat isolated. Minor stuff, not lynchings, and police dogs, and Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, and C*******t oppression, and so forth ad infinitum. It was "good" only from privilege, a delightful and intoxicating illusion. Not that my memories, or yours, were an illusion but that they did include the whole picture, which was fine at the time; no reason for it. But today we have to see there is more to life than our personal experience: it is not a standard of what should be. But it seems Trump's troops think so.
I did not know that at the time; it was just the w... (show quote)


Don't you have diary or a journal or something that you can write this stuff in instead of plastering it on this forum?

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Sep 18, 2020 01:51:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
It does not make me think of a segregated society, that was a fact; it was my reality; are you paying attention, it was my life, lol. Open your eyes.
You're really getting freaking creepy, dude. Why is your life so special as opposed to mine or anyone else's? Are you setting yourself up as the model for the way everyone should live?

I am white and during my 4 years in high school, I was in the minority. They weren't black, they weren't Hispanic or Asian, they were American Indians. Some were friendly, some were hostile. Life on earth ain't perfect.

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Sep 18, 2020 07:31:45   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
I did not know that at the time; it was just the way it was. Not until HS did I know the first name of a "colored" personally. I do not remember any words openly spoken about Negroes. My father hired the first Negro at the NYC Building Department. My mother was very good friends with a black housekeeping women where we vacationed, and I mean they were actually close.

As far as anyone appeared to know at the time was that the owners of the housing project Parkchester in da Bronx, Met Life, had such a reasonable long list of applicants, few apartments were available for years and years. And there was justifiable reason to believe that point. I will not go into the tremendous qualities of this community but they were incredible. Every middle to upper class family would envy and desire living there. But mostly second generation did, striving for the American dream (now a thing of the past, thanks to Trump.)

Yet that is not my point. It is that such seemingly good or innocuous sentiments about the supposed "good old days" can be fodder for resentment and fear and hatred. There were never "good old days" for all. The horrors that occur today happen then. I grew up in the 50s and 60s: ask a Negro if it was "the good old days"? Privilege alone has such a delusional belief. The time of "the good old days" never existed and never will.

My growing up in that era was idyllic. Yes, we had some problems but were somewhat isolated. Minor stuff, not lynchings, and police dogs, and Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, and C*******t oppression, and so forth ad infinitum. It was "good" only from privilege, a delightful and intoxicating illusion. Not that my memories, or yours, were an illusion but that they did include the whole picture, which was fine at the time; no reason for it. But today we have to see there is more to life than our personal experience: it is not a standard of what should be. But it seems Trump's troops think so.
I did not know that at the time; it was just the w... (show quote)


This isn’t the Dr. Phil show, Rumi! Your need to tell your life story is getting stranger by the day! Join a pen pal forum for those who need to continually discuss their life’s story!

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Sep 18, 2020 09:10:41   #
Rose42
 
Are you EVER happy?

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Sep 18, 2020 12:15:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
It does not make me think of a segregated society, that was a fact; it was my reality; are you paying attention, it was my life, lol. Open your eyes.


Was? No longer? You had to think about it before you typed the words, BTW.

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Sep 18, 2020 12:16:24   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
H**e has a place...in hell.


Better quit hatin', then. You spend a lot of time doing it.

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