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Sep 12, 2020 12:06:59   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Lot of bs


lonie: You should know you're responsible for most of it!



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Sep 12, 2020 12:35:11   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Seth wrote:
My experience comes from knowing a lot of b****s, including a girlfriend and her very large family, and having known them all for a long time, and contact with a large number of b****s who grew up in housing projects that I've gotten to know professionally.

Not data compiled by anyone looking for specific results or having political agendas. My personal acquaintances range from different southern states to DC, to the Midwest and the west coast.

I travel a lot, have lived around the country and have a lot of exposure, and get along with a lot of people of different races and national origins.

I know quite a few b****s who started out in poverty, v**ed Democrat (including for Obama) who are now staunch Trump supporters.

I've never been a graphs and charts man, I've always been a personal experience learner, so I don't have any graphs, charts or studies to offer, just the kind of reality that comes from diverse personal and professional contact with real people.

How many close black friends do you have? How many do you socialize with or entertain? How many do you enjoy professional relationships with?
My experience comes from knowing a lot of b****s, ... (show quote)


Fair questions.

My best friend is black. I work in a large institution (university) that is about 40% b***k A******ns, 20% hispanic, 10% immigrants (from all over the world....India, SE Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and S. America) and about 30% w***e A******ns. The students are mainly white.

There are plenty of black folks that I like, and plenty that I don't which is one of the reasons I know that b***k A******ns are not some monolithic group that all support B*M or Democrats. Black parents wish their children would stop k*****g each other, pull up their pants, and some don't care what they do.
My wife and I socialize with all types of people, because we meet all types.

I actually agree with the idea that b***k A******ns would be better served if the current political parties had to compete for their v**es. However, my opinion on that is irrelevant to their decision making when it comes to who they are v****g for. What I experience in my interactions with b***k A******ns and their political preferences is that they are going to v**e Biden. For various reasons, but most emphatically because they don't see the Republicans as taking seriously the issues that concern them most: housing and job discrimination, wage discrimination, brutal policing, among others.

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Sep 12, 2020 12:53:14   #
Big Kahuna
 
And if we hadn't brought b****s into the US there would be none here to blame w****s for their perceived problems.

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Sep 12, 2020 12:54:14   #
Big Kahuna
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
You can thank the Democrats for that. They brought the s***es, they sold the s***es, they bought the s***es, they owned the s***es, they started the KKK to control the ex s***es, they started Jim Crow laws to control the ex s***es, And now they still think they own the ex s***es and they continue to sell them, only now they sell them a line of s**te.


You are logically right.

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Sep 12, 2020 13:14:04   #
Seth
 
working class stiff wrote:
Fair questions.

My best friend is black. I work in a large institution (university) that is about 40% b***k A******ns, 20% hispanic, 10% immigrants (from all over the world....India, SE Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and S. America) and about 30% w***e A******ns. The students are mainly white.

There are plenty of black folks that I like, and plenty that I don't which is one of the reasons I know that b***k A******ns are not some monolithic group that all support B*M or Democrats. Black parents wish their children would stop k*****g each other, pull up their pants, and some don't care what they do.
My wife and I socialize with all types of people, because we meet all types.

I actually agree with the idea that b***k A******ns would be better served if the current political parties had to compete for their v**es. However, my opinion on that is irrelevant to their decision making when it comes to who they are v****g for. What I experience in my interactions with b***k A******ns and their political preferences is that they are going to v**e Biden. For various reasons, but most emphatically because they don't see the Republicans as taking seriously the issues that concern them most: housing and job discrimination, wage discrimination, brutal policing, among others.
Fair questions. br br My best friend is black. I... (show quote)


We obviously see two sides of the same reality. My own experience is with b****s vocally stating that they see the Trump Administration's providing incentives for businesses to expand into black neighborhoods, curtailing the taking of unsk**led jobs by i******s, putting more money into mostly black universities, advocating school choice and the improvement of inner city schools, advocating strong law enforcement and real and realistic prison reform as better for b****s as a community and they totally reject the Democrats' unfounded claims that Trump and the Republicans are r****ts.

This doesn't apply to all the b****s I know, but to a significant percentage who were v****g straight Democrat just a few short years ago.

As only a small sampling from different parts of the country, I'd say that represents a goodly number of b****s who are not "woke," but are now very much awake.

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Sep 12, 2020 13:19:30   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Seth wrote:
We obviously see two sides of the same reality. My own experience is with b****s vocally stating that they see the Trump Administration's providing incentives for businesses to expand into black neighborhoods, curtailing the taking of unsk**led jobs by i******s, putting more money into mostly black universities, advocating school choice and the improvement of inner city schools, advocating strong law enforcement and real and realistic prison reform as better for b****s as a community and they totally reject the Democrats' unfounded claims that Trump and the Republicans are r****ts.

This doesn't apply to all the b****s I know, but to a significant percentage who were v****g straight Democrat just a few short years ago.

As only a small sampling from different parts of the country, I'd say that represents a goodly number of b****s who are not "woke," but are now very much awake.
We obviously see two sides of the same reality. My... (show quote)


Which goes to show that thinking about 'b***k A******ns' as though they are a monolithic bloc is mistaken.
It would not surprise me, if some of the polls of b***k A******ns are broken down into income or professional status, that Trump has made some in roads at the upper end.

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Sep 12, 2020 13:20:53   #
debeda
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
> Division of America - A letter by a former Democrat to Democrats--
>
> The fact that Democrats are embracing her and not outing her speaks volumes about the DNC.
>
> This woman lives in Sedona and a retired lawyer. She writes in simple language as a former Democrat to Democrats in general:
>
> Democrats –
>
> Now I know you don't like President Trump. That’s a given, SO let's move on from that.
>
> How about the division of America. Do you really blame Trump for that? How about when NONE of the DEMOCRATS showed up for his inauguration? Don't you think that started the division? He hadn't even been president yet, and EXCEPT for Clinton and Obama, not one Democrat showed up. Is that when Trump divided America? Can you imagine if the REPUBLICANS didn't show up for Obama's inauguration because they lost? Can you even start to imagine what would have happened?
>
> How about when 19 minutes after Trump was inaugurated, the Washington Post declared the IMPEACHMENT CAMPAIGN has STARTED? Was that when Trump divided America?
>
> How about when Nancy Pelosi ripped up Trump's state of the union right in front of the world, showing complete disrespect for the President of the United States? Did that bring the country together and is THAT when Trump divided America?
>
> How about when America had to endure 3 years and over 30 million dollars spent on trying to PROVE that Trump only won because of RUSSIAN COLLUSION and NOT because America v**ed him in. And 17 democrats did EVERYTHING in their power to PROVE that there was Russian Collusion. and came up with ZERO? Was THAT when Trump divided America?
>
> I can't even start to go over the NEGATIVE PRESS he's received since his surprise win. Remember, the DONORS, the likes of Bloomberg, who gave 27 million, Tom Steyer who gave 17 million, George Soros who gave 9 million and MANY MORE that gave MULTI-MILLIONS to Hillary, wanted a return on their investment. Do you really think that donors give MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS just because they love Hillary? NO, these weren't campaign donations, they were INVESTMENTS into what HILLARY had promised them when she became President. They were so sure she would win and they would be SHOWERED with HUGE RETURNS, and when it didn't happen and they LOST all those millions, they went all out to TAKE TRUMP out of OFFICE by any means possible.
>
> DID YOU KNOW that 90% of the Mainstream media and the corporations that own them, are owned by or run by BIG DEMOCRAT DONORS? You can verify all of that for yourselves. I did. Since the moment T***p w*n, even before he was inaugurated, the mainstream media's reporting was 92% negative on Trump, do you know why? It was those big donors that lost their dream of MILLIONS of dollars, on their returns that they were going to receive when Hillary was President and they weren't going to take that loss lightly. They needed to PUNISH TRUMP and those that V**ED HIM IN.
>
> I've said this since the night he was elected. "There is NOTHING the left won't do to take down our President”, our country and us, no low they won't go to, to get their power back", and sadly, we have seen this every single day since his e******n.
>
> Let me ask you this. Have you ever listened to Trump or appreciated any accomplishment or campaign promises he's kept, have you ever gone to one of his rallies or have you just closed your mind to anything he does? Please ask yourselves the following questions, if you dare.
>
> What has Joe Biden done for America for the last 47 years that he's held an office?
> What did Joe Biden ever do for B****S when HE and Obama were in office?
> What has Joe Biden ever done in his entire life to create a private-sector job?
> What has Joe Biden done to help the American middle class worker?
> Let me also ask you this. Why do you think there are so many people tearing down statues, our burning f**g, beating up police officers, disrespecting our founders and hating our country? It comes straight from our SCHOOLS that have slowly been tearing down our history. If there is a teacher out there, please tell me the following:
>
> Do you teach the t***h that it was the DEMOCRATS that were the KKK?
> That the GRAND LEADER of the KKK was Robert Byrd, who was elected to congress as a DEMOCRAT and served for decades, and that it was Hillary, Bill, and Obama that gave his EULOGY praising him?
> That the DEMOCRATS fought the Civil war to KEEP S***ERY? That the inner-city ghettoes were created by DEMOCRATS to keep control of s***es after they were freed?
> That planned parenthood was founded in inner cities to CONTROL the BLACK POPULATION? Is any of this in your history books?
>
> Let me ask you this as well: Can a student speak up when he/she disagrees with a teacher when they say that Trump is a horrible President or the e*******l college has to be eliminated? I don't think so? Well, I know a student that actually happened to. When the teacher said it had to be eliminated because Hillary lost, and he stated the reason it should stay, she ripped him apart and gave the entire class a 5 hour test, and stated it was because he DARED to disagree with her. Is that happening in your schools?
>
> I'm only asking questions. I'd like your answers.
>
> President Trump and his entire family has been vilified, demeaned and disrespected, for one reason and one reason only. HE WON.
>
> Have you noticed the DEMOCRATS only throw tantrums and OBJECT to everything he does and have NEVER ONCE gotten behind him to make America the best it can be? WHY? They can't afford to get behind him. he would WIN AGAIN, and they can't let that happen. if he wins again, the Democrat party will be destroyed and they know it.
>
> Did you notice that the "CAGES" the left claimed that Trump built to put Illegal children in, WERE BUILT BY OBAMA for the very purpose of PUTTING ILLEGAL CHILDREN IN? Was THAT all over the news when Obama did it? The very same “CAGES". but the media was silent!
>
> How about when Trump commuted Roger Stone's sentence, and was DEMONIZED 24/7 but NOT A WORD when Obama commuted 1,715 inmates, which included 330 that he granted on his last day in office. DID WE EVEN HEAR one WORD about it?
>
> Were there reporters even reporting it. NO! Just look at the difference in the reporting. By the way, since Trump's been in office he's commuted 10 people. compare that to Obama. Is that reporting fair?
>
> How about when Biden and Obama allowed the H1N1, the SWINE FLU, to INFECT MILLIONS of Americans before declaring it a health emergency. Was the press losing it's minds and calling it the OBAMA FLU AND BLAMING OBAMA and BIDEN for the spread? —— SILENCE!
>
> Compare this to the NEGATIVE COVERAGE that Trump got when, he immediately halted travel from China. Then, in February, Nancy Pelosi went to Chinatown and said come on down, or when DeBlasio, in March, said ride the subways and go to Broadway. BUT those same people are blaming Trump for the spread of c****av***s.
>
> A FINAL QUESTION:
>
> What have the DEMOCRATS done to help make America the best, to get behind a president that works tirelessly to care about WE THE PEOPLE instead of using us as political pawns? What have the democrats done for people of color EXCEPT for GIVING I******S more rights than citizens and having us pay for it?
>
> JUST imagine what this country could accomplish if the Democrats worked with him on the economy, the c****av***s, the inner cities where he's created opportunity zones, job training etc. When Trump tried to get school choice for inner-city students they ran Betsy Devos out!! The democrats running those inner city schools wanted no part of school choice. Have you ever wondered why it's cities that have been run, for decades, that have the MOST HOMELESS, the MOST CRIME, the most MURDERS, the worst INNER CITY schools, ARE ALL RUN BY DEMOCRATS?
If you haven't started asking yourselves those questions, maybe you should. As I said, my entire family used to be Democrats, but NOT ONE will ever v**e for a Democrat again. They asked themselves the same questions and the answer was clear.
> Division of America - A lette... (show quote)


TERRIFIC POST, Ldsutton. Unfortunately, most programmed Democrats WON'T ask themselves those questions. They'll just remain in their programming "🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️ Orange man bad........."

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Sep 12, 2020 13:23:23   #
debeda
 
Oh, Abbie. So the 50s and 60s and 70s never happened? Dr. Martin Luther King was a fever dream? Affirmative action didn't/doesn't exist? What a disingenuous meme😖🤣

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Sep 12, 2020 13:37:47   #
jim_shipley
 
Why do they matter? over 3/4th do not pay their own bills and do not raise their own kids...They are PARASITES!

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Sep 12, 2020 13:41:25   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
The Democrats have long been able to depend on both media disinformation and spine challenged Republicans (who can't seem to get passed bringing Queensbury rules to a street fight), along with keeping too many b****s convinced that "government taking care of them" instead of demanding equal effort to access equal opportunity is a sign of caring about them.

This has easily been one of, if not the most effectively executed con jobs in America's history.

The Trump presidency, which is anything but spinally challenged, has begun to expose the con job for what it is, and the Democrats are fighting back the only way they know how, with more rhetoric such as shouting "r****m!" from the rooftops and giving the nod to far left agitators to wreak havoc and supposedly draw attention to this elusive r****m. It's not working this time, in fact it's gotten so far out of control that it's backfiring.

Trump has the largest following of black v**ers of any Republican president in over half a century.

So they are, in small clusters adding up to a larger one, breaking loose from the plantation.

The Trump Administration is the vehicle that has arrived, and long overdue, that will free black America from that plantation -- by affording them the opportunity to free themselves and showing them how to do it.

Teaching them how to fish, as the saying goes.
The Democrats have long been able to depend on bot... (show quote)



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Sep 12, 2020 13:43:33   #
debeda
 
working class stiff wrote:
Fair questions.

My best friend is black. I work in a large institution (university) that is about 40% b***k A******ns, 20% hispanic, 10% immigrants (from all over the world....India, SE Asia, the Middle East, Africa, and S. America) and about 30% w***e A******ns. The students are mainly white.

There are plenty of black folks that I like, and plenty that I don't which is one of the reasons I know that b***k A******ns are not some monolithic group that all support B*M or Democrats. Black parents wish their children would stop k*****g each other, pull up their pants, and some don't care what they do.
My wife and I socialize with all types of people, because we meet all types.

I actually agree with the idea that b***k A******ns would be better served if the current political parties had to compete for their v**es. However, my opinion on that is irrelevant to their decision making when it comes to who they are v****g for. What I experience in my interactions with b***k A******ns and their political preferences is that they are going to v**e Biden. For various reasons, but most emphatically because they don't see the Republicans as taking seriously the issues that concern them most: housing and job discrimination, wage discrimination, brutal policing, among others.
Fair questions. br br My best friend is black. I... (show quote)


But you are speaking from a university setting, which sadly, white, black, or other, is mostly l*****t.

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Sep 12, 2020 13:45:42   #
debeda
 
working class stiff wrote:
Which goes to show that thinking about 'b***k A******ns' as though they are a monolithic bloc is mistaken.
It would not surprise me, if some of the polls of b***k A******ns are broken down into income or professional status, that Trump has made some in roads at the upper end.


I dunno, most of my experience is with middle of the road people (financially) and at least 75% of those support President Trump's policies. (Color notwithstanding)

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Sep 12, 2020 14:44:06   #
Seth
 
working class stiff wrote:
Which goes to show that thinking about 'b***k A******ns' as though they are a monolithic bloc is mistaken.
It would not surprise me, if some of the polls of b***k A******ns are broken down into income or professional status, that Trump has made some in roads at the upper end.


Middle as well. I know some middle class b****s who are in the trades, have small businesses (less than maybe ten employees) they started on shoestring budgets and one retired high school teacher who say they v**ed for Obama, felt shafted by his presidency and are very pleased with Trump.

Trump didn't pander to b****s, like Hillary with her "I always carry a bottle of hot sauce" number, he merely told them "take a chance, what do you have to lose?" and upon being elected began actually doing things that are beneficial to the black community.

No promises on the campaign trail that he had no intention of keeping, simply "take a chance," and right off the bat he began doing good things for them on several different levels, although he hadn't promised them a thing.

Try and find a politician of either party who can say the same.

Trump's sincerity is out there for anyone who looks for it to see. Those going in with a "Trump bad no matter what" attitude will simply continue to ignore everything positive that he accomplishes and continue to repeat wh**ever slander and other false rhetoric the anti-Trumper brigade decides to put out about his character and/or accomplishments. That's just the way it is.

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Sep 12, 2020 14:46:22   #
Seth
 
debeda wrote:
I dunno, most of my experience is with middle of the road people (financially) and at least 75% of those support President Trump's policies. (Color notwithstanding)



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Sep 12, 2020 14:59:04   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Middle as well. I know some middle class b****s who are in the trades, have small businesses (less than maybe ten employees) they started on shoestring budgets and one retired high school teacher who say they v**ed for Obama, felt shafted by his presidency and are very pleased with Trump.

Trump didn't pander to b****s, like Hillary with her "I always carry a bottle of hot sauce" number, he merely told them "take a chance, what do you have to lose?" and upon being elected began actually doing things that are beneficial to the black community.

No promises on the campaign trail that he had no intention of keeping, simply "take a chance," and right off the bat he began doing good things for them on several different levels, although he hadn't promised them a thing.

Try and find a politician of either party who can say the same.

Trump's sincerity is out there for anyone who looks for it to see. Those going in with a "Trump bad no matter what" attitude will simply continue to ignore everything positive that he accomplishes and continue to repeat wh**ever slander and other false rhetoric the anti-Trumper brigade decides to put out about his character and/or accomplishments. That's just the way it is.
Middle as well. I know some middle class b****s wh... (show quote)


Well said

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