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Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story about Trump and troops was a slime job to boost Biden
Sep 7, 2020 11:59:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story about Trump and troops was a slime job to boost Biden
By Monica Showalter
To get a sense of how low the Biden campaign is going to go in its quest to oust President Trump, the Atlantic hit job from Thursday is a pretty good indicator.

The evidence is piling up that the easily refutable, anonymously sourced so-called story, claiming that President Trump disparaged veterans, wasn't really an Atlantic news story at all; it was a coordinated hit job involving the press, Democratic operatives, and associated l*****t groups connected to the military, executed with impeccable timing. The Atlantic is building a name for itself for its uncorrected false stories, and this one's not at all different.

First, Jeffrey Goldberg's Atlantic story came out Thursday, claiming that four anonymous sources had told him that Trump, on a visit to France a few years ago, didn't want to go to a U.S. military cemetery there to honor fallen U.S. troops, because they were all "losers" and "suckers." It was raining, see, and he didn't want to get his hair mussed up.

This is solid crap, The official email records, exposed at the time when the media tried to make a flap about it even then, showed that it was indeed bad weather that prevented the trip.

There was a motive, though: to distract attention from Joe Biden's actual bad record with the military. Andrea Widburg has an excellent must-read analysis here.

It comes against a broader picture of the Democrats seeking to divide and disloyalize the military with all their c**p talk — see this startling analysis called "The Coming C**p" by Michael Anton, writing in the American Mind here.

The Atlantic's lie was derived from an overheated exchange that Trump had with John McCain, a man he h**ed for many reasons, in 2016. Trump official after Trump official, including fired former NSC adviser John Bolton, who now has an acrimonious relationship with Trump, say they didn't hear what Goldberg claims was said, or more strongly, adamantly say it never happened. They are going on the record with their own names, and they are unequivocal about it. The first lady, Melania Trump, who rarely speaks about political matters, also says she was there and it never happened.

Not too long after the mendacious report, an ad from a l*****t veterans group, "V**eVets," bounced out, featuring six interviews with outraged family members of fallen soldiers. "My son was not a loser," they said.

V**eVets claims they had no idea that the Atlantic story was coming out, and they were just busy beavers who stayed up all night to get the interviews, write the slick script to ad length, edit the interviews, string the interviews together, get the sound and photography edited, put the graphics in, and get the finished product out, not just on the web, but in the hands of the morning television networks, such as Joe Scarborough's MSNBC Morning Joe show, to ensure they could run the ad and wax their outrage.

According to Joel Pollak's excellent writeup in Breitbart:
The article was published Thursday evening. By Friday morning, a left-wing group called V**e Vets had not only produced an ad based on the article, but had aired it on Morning Joe — MSNBC's early-morning f**gship news and opinion show.

Meanwhile, the article spread across social media like a brush fire in a derecho. It trended at the top of Twitter; it was shared widely on Facebook, all without any of the "fact checks" that typically accompany disputed news reports on such platforms.

Here's one other thing not noted in any of the excellent national analyses I read: after Scarborough's item ran, follow-on broadcasts featuring "outraged" veterans appeared in countless local news broadcasts. Here in San Diego, the local press moved right on cue. NBC7 of San Diego interviewed one Dave Baril, identified as a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was furious about the purported statement.

"America has given up its sons and daughters for over 200 years …I would always like to think that deep down the commander in chief have held those folks to the highest of regard and said it was something that needed to be done in the national interest, but now I can see that this gentleman doesn't care at all," said David Baril, a retired San Diego based Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines Corps.

Actually, he's a gun control activist, with an outfit called VetsForGunReform or Vets4GunReform. His Twitter account is private, most likely because his position is unpopular.

Does VetsForGunReform have any connection to V**eVets?

Surprise, it does. Here's a 2018 tweet showing a connection:


That tweet suggests they're either the same group or else closely enough aligned for one to speak for the other — an unlikely thing, actually. More likely, they're the same thing. A little research (coming soon) should tell us more.

It got worse.

Soon as the press was out, Biden came out of his basement to hold a press conference. He hasn't done any of those, but somehow, he was ready for this one.

The reporters were handpicked by staff for questions to ask Biden, and by the wildest of coincidences, a reporter from The Atlantic was the first guy called on.

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Sep 7, 2020 12:16:36   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story about Trump and troops was a slime job to boost Biden
By Monica Showalter
To get a sense of how low the Biden campaign is going to go in its quest to oust President Trump, the Atlantic hit job from Thursday is a pretty good indicator.

The evidence is piling up that the easily refutable, anonymously sourced so-called story, claiming that President Trump disparaged veterans, wasn't really an Atlantic news story at all; it was a coordinated hit job involving the press, Democratic operatives, and associated l*****t groups connected to the military, executed with impeccable timing. The Atlantic is building a name for itself for its uncorrected false stories, and this one's not at all different.

First, Jeffrey Goldberg's Atlantic story came out Thursday, claiming that four anonymous sources had told him that Trump, on a visit to France a few years ago, didn't want to go to a U.S. military cemetery there to honor fallen U.S. troops, because they were all "losers" and "suckers." It was raining, see, and he didn't want to get his hair mussed up.

This is solid crap, The official email records, exposed at the time when the media tried to make a flap about it even then, showed that it was indeed bad weather that prevented the trip.

There was a motive, though: to distract attention from Joe Biden's actual bad record with the military. Andrea Widburg has an excellent must-read analysis here.

It comes against a broader picture of the Democrats seeking to divide and disloyalize the military with all their c**p talk — see this startling analysis called "The Coming C**p" by Michael Anton, writing in the American Mind here.

The Atlantic's lie was derived from an overheated exchange that Trump had with John McCain, a man he h**ed for many reasons, in 2016. Trump official after Trump official, including fired former NSC adviser John Bolton, who now has an acrimonious relationship with Trump, say they didn't hear what Goldberg claims was said, or more strongly, adamantly say it never happened. They are going on the record with their own names, and they are unequivocal about it. The first lady, Melania Trump, who rarely speaks about political matters, also says she was there and it never happened.

Not too long after the mendacious report, an ad from a l*****t veterans group, "V**eVets," bounced out, featuring six interviews with outraged family members of fallen soldiers. "My son was not a loser," they said.

V**eVets claims they had no idea that the Atlantic story was coming out, and they were just busy beavers who stayed up all night to get the interviews, write the slick script to ad length, edit the interviews, string the interviews together, get the sound and photography edited, put the graphics in, and get the finished product out, not just on the web, but in the hands of the morning television networks, such as Joe Scarborough's MSNBC Morning Joe show, to ensure they could run the ad and wax their outrage.

According to Joel Pollak's excellent writeup in Breitbart:
The article was published Thursday evening. By Friday morning, a left-wing group called V**e Vets had not only produced an ad based on the article, but had aired it on Morning Joe — MSNBC's early-morning f**gship news and opinion show.

Meanwhile, the article spread across social media like a brush fire in a derecho. It trended at the top of Twitter; it was shared widely on Facebook, all without any of the "fact checks" that typically accompany disputed news reports on such platforms.

Here's one other thing not noted in any of the excellent national analyses I read: after Scarborough's item ran, follow-on broadcasts featuring "outraged" veterans appeared in countless local news broadcasts. Here in San Diego, the local press moved right on cue. NBC7 of San Diego interviewed one Dave Baril, identified as a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was furious about the purported statement.

"America has given up its sons and daughters for over 200 years …I would always like to think that deep down the commander in chief have held those folks to the highest of regard and said it was something that needed to be done in the national interest, but now I can see that this gentleman doesn't care at all," said David Baril, a retired San Diego based Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines Corps.

Actually, he's a gun control activist, with an outfit called VetsForGunReform or Vets4GunReform. His Twitter account is private, most likely because his position is unpopular.

Does VetsForGunReform have any connection to V**eVets?

Surprise, it does. Here's a 2018 tweet showing a connection:


That tweet suggests they're either the same group or else closely enough aligned for one to speak for the other — an unlikely thing, actually. More likely, they're the same thing. A little research (coming soon) should tell us more.

It got worse.

Soon as the press was out, Biden came out of his basement to hold a press conference. He hasn't done any of those, but somehow, he was ready for this one.

The reporters were handpicked by staff for questions to ask Biden, and by the wildest of coincidences, a reporter from The Atlantic was the first guy called on.
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story ab... (show quote)


Slime jobs are all they have.

All this posting of them shows how bankrupt they are. They're telling on themselves as hard as they can.

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Sep 7, 2020 12:27:15   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story about Trump and troops was a slime job to boost Biden
By Monica Showalter
To get a sense of how low the Biden campaign is going to go in its quest to oust President Trump, the Atlantic hit job from Thursday is a pretty good indicator.

The evidence is piling up that the easily refutable, anonymously sourced so-called story, claiming that President Trump disparaged veterans, wasn't really an Atlantic news story at all; it was a coordinated hit job involving the press, Democratic operatives, and associated l*****t groups connected to the military, executed with impeccable timing. The Atlantic is building a name for itself for its uncorrected false stories, and this one's not at all different.

First, Jeffrey Goldberg's Atlantic story came out Thursday, claiming that four anonymous sources had told him that Trump, on a visit to France a few years ago, didn't want to go to a U.S. military cemetery there to honor fallen U.S. troops, because they were all "losers" and "suckers." It was raining, see, and he didn't want to get his hair mussed up.

This is solid crap, The official email records, exposed at the time when the media tried to make a flap about it even then, showed that it was indeed bad weather that prevented the trip.

There was a motive, though: to distract attention from Joe Biden's actual bad record with the military. Andrea Widburg has an excellent must-read analysis here.

It comes against a broader picture of the Democrats seeking to divide and disloyalize the military with all their c**p talk — see this startling analysis called "The Coming C**p" by Michael Anton, writing in the American Mind here.

The Atlantic's lie was derived from an overheated exchange that Trump had with John McCain, a man he h**ed for many reasons, in 2016. Trump official after Trump official, including fired former NSC adviser John Bolton, who now has an acrimonious relationship with Trump, say they didn't hear what Goldberg claims was said, or more strongly, adamantly say it never happened. They are going on the record with their own names, and they are unequivocal about it. The first lady, Melania Trump, who rarely speaks about political matters, also says she was there and it never happened.

Not too long after the mendacious report, an ad from a l*****t veterans group, "V**eVets," bounced out, featuring six interviews with outraged family members of fallen soldiers. "My son was not a loser," they said.

V**eVets claims they had no idea that the Atlantic story was coming out, and they were just busy beavers who stayed up all night to get the interviews, write the slick script to ad length, edit the interviews, string the interviews together, get the sound and photography edited, put the graphics in, and get the finished product out, not just on the web, but in the hands of the morning television networks, such as Joe Scarborough's MSNBC Morning Joe show, to ensure they could run the ad and wax their outrage.

According to Joel Pollak's excellent writeup in Breitbart:
The article was published Thursday evening. By Friday morning, a left-wing group called V**e Vets had not only produced an ad based on the article, but had aired it on Morning Joe — MSNBC's early-morning f**gship news and opinion show.

Meanwhile, the article spread across social media like a brush fire in a derecho. It trended at the top of Twitter; it was shared widely on Facebook, all without any of the "fact checks" that typically accompany disputed news reports on such platforms.

Here's one other thing not noted in any of the excellent national analyses I read: after Scarborough's item ran, follow-on broadcasts featuring "outraged" veterans appeared in countless local news broadcasts. Here in San Diego, the local press moved right on cue. NBC7 of San Diego interviewed one Dave Baril, identified as a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was furious about the purported statement.

"America has given up its sons and daughters for over 200 years …I would always like to think that deep down the commander in chief have held those folks to the highest of regard and said it was something that needed to be done in the national interest, but now I can see that this gentleman doesn't care at all," said David Baril, a retired San Diego based Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines Corps.

Actually, he's a gun control activist, with an outfit called VetsForGunReform or Vets4GunReform. His Twitter account is private, most likely because his position is unpopular.

Does VetsForGunReform have any connection to V**eVets?

Surprise, it does. Here's a 2018 tweet showing a connection:


That tweet suggests they're either the same group or else closely enough aligned for one to speak for the other — an unlikely thing, actually. More likely, they're the same thing. A little research (coming soon) should tell us more.

It got worse.

Soon as the press was out, Biden came out of his basement to hold a press conference. He hasn't done any of those, but somehow, he was ready for this one.

The reporters were handpicked by staff for questions to ask Biden, and by the wildest of coincidences, a reporter from The Atlantic was the first guy called on.
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story ab... (show quote)


Nice try though.

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Sep 7, 2020 12:34:39   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Nice try though.


Had the g*******ts not so badly overplayed their hand it might have had some weight.

Public opinion is a lagging indicator.

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Sep 7, 2020 14:08:44   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story about Trump and troops was a slime job to boost Biden
By Monica Showalter
To get a sense of how low the Biden campaign is going to go in its quest to oust President Trump, the Atlantic hit job from Thursday is a pretty good indicator.

The evidence is piling up that the easily refutable, anonymously sourced so-called story, claiming that President Trump disparaged veterans, wasn't really an Atlantic news story at all; it was a coordinated hit job involving the press, Democratic operatives, and associated l*****t groups connected to the military, executed with impeccable timing. The Atlantic is building a name for itself for its uncorrected false stories, and this one's not at all different.

First, Jeffrey Goldberg's Atlantic story came out Thursday, claiming that four anonymous sources had told him that Trump, on a visit to France a few years ago, didn't want to go to a U.S. military cemetery there to honor fallen U.S. troops, because they were all "losers" and "suckers." It was raining, see, and he didn't want to get his hair mussed up.

This is solid crap, The official email records, exposed at the time when the media tried to make a flap about it even then, showed that it was indeed bad weather that prevented the trip.

There was a motive, though: to distract attention from Joe Biden's actual bad record with the military. Andrea Widburg has an excellent must-read analysis here.

It comes against a broader picture of the Democrats seeking to divide and disloyalize the military with all their c**p talk — see this startling analysis called "The Coming C**p" by Michael Anton, writing in the American Mind here.

The Atlantic's lie was derived from an overheated exchange that Trump had with John McCain, a man he h**ed for many reasons, in 2016. Trump official after Trump official, including fired former NSC adviser John Bolton, who now has an acrimonious relationship with Trump, say they didn't hear what Goldberg claims was said, or more strongly, adamantly say it never happened. They are going on the record with their own names, and they are unequivocal about it. The first lady, Melania Trump, who rarely speaks about political matters, also says she was there and it never happened.

Not too long after the mendacious report, an ad from a l*****t veterans group, "V**eVets," bounced out, featuring six interviews with outraged family members of fallen soldiers. "My son was not a loser," they said.

V**eVets claims they had no idea that the Atlantic story was coming out, and they were just busy beavers who stayed up all night to get the interviews, write the slick script to ad length, edit the interviews, string the interviews together, get the sound and photography edited, put the graphics in, and get the finished product out, not just on the web, but in the hands of the morning television networks, such as Joe Scarborough's MSNBC Morning Joe show, to ensure they could run the ad and wax their outrage.

According to Joel Pollak's excellent writeup in Breitbart:
The article was published Thursday evening. By Friday morning, a left-wing group called V**e Vets had not only produced an ad based on the article, but had aired it on Morning Joe — MSNBC's early-morning f**gship news and opinion show.

Meanwhile, the article spread across social media like a brush fire in a derecho. It trended at the top of Twitter; it was shared widely on Facebook, all without any of the "fact checks" that typically accompany disputed news reports on such platforms.

Here's one other thing not noted in any of the excellent national analyses I read: after Scarborough's item ran, follow-on broadcasts featuring "outraged" veterans appeared in countless local news broadcasts. Here in San Diego, the local press moved right on cue. NBC7 of San Diego interviewed one Dave Baril, identified as a retired Marine lieutenant colonel who was furious about the purported statement.

"America has given up its sons and daughters for over 200 years …I would always like to think that deep down the commander in chief have held those folks to the highest of regard and said it was something that needed to be done in the national interest, but now I can see that this gentleman doesn't care at all," said David Baril, a retired San Diego based Lieutenant Colonel in the Marines Corps.

Actually, he's a gun control activist, with an outfit called VetsForGunReform or Vets4GunReform. His Twitter account is private, most likely because his position is unpopular.

Does VetsForGunReform have any connection to V**eVets?

Surprise, it does. Here's a 2018 tweet showing a connection:


That tweet suggests they're either the same group or else closely enough aligned for one to speak for the other — an unlikely thing, actually. More likely, they're the same thing. A little research (coming soon) should tell us more.

It got worse.

Soon as the press was out, Biden came out of his basement to hold a press conference. He hasn't done any of those, but somehow, he was ready for this one.

The reporters were handpicked by staff for questions to ask Biden, and by the wildest of coincidences, a reporter from The Atlantic was the first guy called on.
Evidence piles up that the phony Atlantic story ab... (show quote)


eagle, I see you are still the champion of alternate reality. The facts told by the Atlantic magazine article has been confirmed by the New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, and Fox News. People have come forth to tell about Trump calling the US Marine offensive of Bella Woods, France either suckers or losers. He refused to visit a US cemetery in France because it might make his hair look bad? Many other people that know Trump, and/or worked for him tell similar stories.
Atlantic magazine said that this is just the tip go the iceberg.

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Sep 7, 2020 14:45:08   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
eagle, I see you are still the champion of alternate reality. The facts told by the Atlantic magazine article has been confirmed by the New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, and Fox News. People have come forth to tell about Trump calling the US Marine offensive of Bella Woods, France either suckers or losers. He refused to visit a US cemetery in France because it might make his hair look bad? Many other people that know Trump, and/or worked for him tell similar stories.
Atlantic magazine said that this is just the tip go the iceberg.
eagle, I see you are still the champion of alterna... (show quote)


It must be really sick to wake up every morning and look in the mirror and realize that what you are looking as is all you will ever be and it isn't much. So you go to your computer and sling anonymous trash all day so you think you might matter. But you never will.

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Sep 10, 2020 10:02:41   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
It must be really sick to wake up every morning and look in the mirror and realize that what you are looking as is all you will ever be and it isn't much. So you go to your computer and sling anonymous trash all day so you think you might matter. But you never will.


LogicallyLeft.
A shame for you that you have not figured out that the Good Guys win in the end.
It is written.

Is this life all you have and ever will have?

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