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Aug 30, 2020 11:02:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.

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Aug 30, 2020 11:23:22   #
JW
 
permafrost wrote:
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.
From Quora.. br br I am undecided between Trump a... (show quote)


A classic piece of propaganda begins by asking a question belied by what follows it. Your offering qualifies.

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Aug 30, 2020 11:45:11   #
EmilyD
 
permafrost wrote:
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.
From Quora.. br br I am undecided between Trump a... (show quote)


That person is undecided between Biden and Trump??? That's a really strange thing for them to say after reading the statements that followed that first sentence!!

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Aug 30, 2020 12:06:46   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
EmilyD wrote:
That person is undecided between Biden and Trump??? That's a really strange thing for them to say after reading the statements that followed that first sentence!!

Read the post from JW just above yours.

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Aug 30, 2020 12:25:14   #
Gatsby
 
permafrost wrote:
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.
From Quora.. br br I am undecided between Trump a... (show quote)


The Dow was at 18,400 when Donald Trump shocked the world on Nov. 9th 2016.

It was President Trump's promise, and plan, to unleash the economy, that sparked the unprecedented

growth in the Dow from that point onwards, surpassing not only 20,000, but 30,000, before the CC flu hit.

Attempting to credit Obama with that growth ammounts to nothing less than "Stolen Valor".

The more desperate you get, the lower you stoop!

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Aug 30, 2020 12:27:28   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.
From Quora.. br br I am undecided between Trump a... (show quote)


A reasonable point of view if your an American c*******t. You fool no one with your lying crap.

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Aug 30, 2020 13:41:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Gatsby wrote:
The Dow was at 18,400 when Donald Trump shocked the world on Nov. 9th 2016.

It was President Trump's promise, and plan, to unleash the economy, that sparked the unprecedented

growth in the Dow from that point onwards, surpassing not only 20,000, but 30,000, before the CC flu hit.

Attempting to credit Obama with that growth ammounts to nothing less than "Stolen Valor".

The more desperate you get, the lower you stoop!


Ok Gatsby,, you echo the diarrhea from the orange mouth of h**e and never mention any fact..

Now, tell me just what trump did that had a positive effect on the economy that President Obama did not do..
the money gift to himself and other very rich? the Republicans had worked on that for decades and still want more for themselves...

In two full years of complete control both houses and his own fat a** and that was the only legislative action he could manage..

he road the already bustling economy, which was leading the world after the Bush recession.. and the fat orange POS rode it the end.. record 10 years plus of growth.. 7 under Obama who put into play and 3 under the fool in orange who ended it..

LOL, "stolen valor" is that like cadet bone spurs wishing to be a "war time" president??

He may still resort to that. A launch on Iran would make a bunch of right wingers gleeful for a month..



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Aug 30, 2020 13:45:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
A reasonable point of view if your an American c*******t. You fool no one with your lying crap.


Well, vern, you as the fool of every week as usual run you mouth with out a fact in sight..

You call me names before ever meeting me.. just what do you think you would be like after a day in my shoes or my house or my back yard?

The never ending lack of class by trump and his cult..
The never ending lack of class by trump and his cu...

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Aug 30, 2020 17:27:37   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
permafrost wrote:
Well, vern, you as the fool of every week as usual run you mouth with out a fact in sight..

You call me names before ever meeting me.. just what do you think you would be like after a day in my shoes or my house or my back yard?



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Aug 31, 2020 06:02:01   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.
From Quora.. br br I am undecided between Trump a... (show quote)


Your post should be titled, "An unreasonable point of view", by a radical l*****t.

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Aug 31, 2020 06:05:09   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
Well, vern, you as the fool of every week as usual run you mouth with out a fact in sight..

You call me names before ever meeting me.. just what do you think you would be like after a day in my shoes or my house or my back yard?


Couldn't fit into your size "0" baby shoes perm. Maybe you should grow your shoe size instead of your waist and empty cranial size.

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Aug 31, 2020 06:06:57   #
Big Kahuna
 
permafrost wrote:
From Quora..

I am undecided between Trump and Biden. Is there anyone who can give an unbiased opinion as to the pros and cons of each candidate? So much of the "expert" opinions out there are totally one sided.
We know what four years of Trump looks like, we can only speculate on four years of Biden.

Trump came into office with a growing economy. Under Obama, the Dow grew from below 7,000 to about 24,000 by the time Trump signed his tax bill. By the time the c****av***s hit, the Dow had only reached about 27,000, about half the growth rate as under Obama. Similarly, unemployment under Obama dropped from about 10% to just over 4% by the time Trump passed his tax bill, and only got as low as 3.6% by the time the c****av***s crisis hit. That’s almost 1% annually under Obama compared to less than .2% annually under Trump. Long before the c****av***s even hit China, the Fed lowered interest rates in an attempt to counter the economic slowdown, and Trump himself criticized them for not committing to do more to prevent a recession. That recession officially began in February, a month before the stock market collapsed and unemployment skyrocketed because of the lockdowns.

And all of that assumes that Trump isn’t even responsible for the fact that America has had the worst c****av***s response of any industrialized nation on the planet.

Now we don’t know what a Biden administration will look like, but his platform is largely to return to Obama-era policies. Policies under which the Dow tripled, unemployment dropped by more than half, and under which we successfully navigated two v***l outbreaks.

So now your choice is four more years of what we know isn’t working, or to take a chance on four years under a President who wants to go back to what was working before.
From Quora.. br br I am undecided between Trump a... (show quote)


Like r****t mooch ovommit, you always go low instead of high.

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Aug 31, 2020 07:54:08   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
Well, vern, you as the fool of every week as usual run you mouth with out a fact in sight..

You call me names before ever meeting me.. just what do you think you would be like after a day in my shoes or my house or my back yard?


Do you call the crap you just told gatsby factual? Every thing you said is a lies and more lies. Your right i don't know you I've see enough and heard enough of your lying ass to last a life time. Now go back and join the friendly protest ,maybe you'll get lucky and k**l a cop or some kid.

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Aug 31, 2020 09:05:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Couldn't fit into your size "0" baby shoes perm. Maybe you should grow your shoe size instead of your waist and empty cranial size.


HA HA HA,,, Larry,, you get more pathetic by the day..



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Aug 31, 2020 09:08:00   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
Do you call the crap you just told gatsby factual? Every thing you said is a lies and more lies. Your right i don't know you I've see enough and heard enough of your lying ass to last a life time. Now go back and join the friendly protest ,maybe you'll get lucky and k**l a cop or some kid.



Vern, get a grip...

You do know the premeditated k**ler in Wisconsin is just one more right wing lunatic.. trump lover and imaginary orange star.. now he has k**led and will spend a life hoping the other inmates do not k**l him..

But he, like the orange mouth is over..



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