permafrost Loc: Minnesota

What are we to think.. illegal v****g tips the scale?

In hundreds of years, maybe a few v**ers have risked jail time and heavy fines to find a way to risk it all and violate the law.. result,,,, one extra v**e for someone..

On the other hand let us look at an example rather then spend hours digging up statistics and report via the internet..

Lets look at the good people in Wisconsin..

2016... they v**ed for trump.. by less the 1% and trump got the dozen or so v**es from the e*******l college.. helped give him the narrow victory which allowed him to slither into the oval office and become the worse world leader on the planet and in the history of the United States..

So, what created the >1% win... the Wisconsin cities reduced v****g access and by locations, staff and time..
the result was 19% fewer minority v**es made in the 2016 Wisconsin e******n..

That fact gave trump the state and hence into the oval office..

only repressing the people made that happen..

Easy to see why so much effort is being made at all corners of trump world to keep v**es down by any means at all.. sack the Post Office, move the Polls location, cut the v****g time, purge the registration..

The orange fool of a crime lord never made anything of himself. Gifted by a mountain of money and property, he flushed it all and needed to grovel in front of Putin for more of the same..

His payback has proved his menace not only to our country but to the world of the free..

v**e no to this SOB...

I rest my case..

Liberty Tree

You have no case.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I think he has a case. Penicillin would maybe cure it.

Lonewolf

Radiance3

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V***r f***d is rampant are common in the democrat party. Every e******n several millions of v**es have been identified for democrats cast by these parties who are NOT eligible or NOT allowed to v**e for the following reasons.
1. They are illegal, not qualified to v**e.
2. The b****ts have been sent to dead people. During this years primary, 800,000 fraudulent v**es was found in one state alone.
Here is one example.
3. Duplicate because some v**ers moved to another state. They v**e there.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-v**erfraudcases.pdf

During 2016, Hillary Clinton received 5 million fraudulent v**e that put her 3 million above Donald Trump. Otherwise without the fraud, Donald Trump was also ahead of her in the popular v**e by 2 million.

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO

Spot on Radiance! If democrat v**e harvesting happens this e******n cycle and Biden/Harris win, it will be the complete destruction of our wonderful country within 2 years. Biden has been in government for 50 years, and VP for 8, and what has he accomplished? Jack s**t comes to mind~

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

They did in NC.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I am very disappointed with my right wing friends.. I posted this to bring about a little discussion of each condition and all I get is repeats of trump rambling BS from the his press claims..

sorry bunch of short sighted sheep who got nothing..

Think a bit and find some reason to defend or rebut..

time on my hands so a chair was needed..

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Glad you're not disappointed in me. I'm not your friend.

Radiance3

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Another reason the radical DIMS refuse to providing V**er's ID. But this could be a driver's license of anything public with picture ID.

But the radical DIMS don't want to comply with using ID. They call it v**ers' suppression.

In all public t***saction these hoodlum, free loaders, and i*****l a***ns are given ID's to receive their handouts and food stamps. Why not use that?

The purpose of not following "v**ers's ID is to commit fraud. I*****l a***ns are allowed to v**e. Other are even given money to v**e illegally. Soros pays paid them for that.

Radiance3

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That chair is too tall for me. Thanks anyway.

All what I've posted are facts and it happened in 2016 e******n.
I am tired of repeats clarifying events that happened in every e******n period but got more pervasive during e******ns 2008, 2012, and 2016.

https://www.heritage.org/e******n-integrity/commentary/new-report-exposes-thousands-illegal-v**es-2016-e******n

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38744612
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Who is responsible for ensuring the integrity of e******ns?

Each state is generally responsible for the administration of its own e*******l systems, including e******ns for federal office. State governments must take this responsibility seriously and adopt policies sufficient to secure their e******ns against fraud, including efforts by non-citizens to v**e, and by citizens registered in multiple states.

The Heritage Foundation has outlined several policies states should adopt, including requiring government-issued identification and proof of citizenship to v**e. States should enter into interstate v***r r**********n crosscheck programs to identify v**ers registered in multiple states. They should verify the accuracy of their v***r r**********ns, by comparing v**er rolls with jury forms, DMV files, and other government records to identify noncitizens so that they can be removed from v**er rolls. The federal government should cooperate with state efforts to clean up their registrations, and make Department of Homeland Security and other databases available to state officials for this purpose.

In recent years, some proactive secretaries of state across the country have taken the lead in securing American e******ns. Kansas’ Interstate V***r R**********n Crosscheck Program has identified hundreds of thousands of potential duplicate registrations in the 30 states participating in the initiative, as well as evidence of double v****g. At the same time, more states have passed v**er ID laws to detect and deter fraud.

There are now 34 states that have laws requiring v**ers to show some form of identification at the polls, although not all require photo identification or proof of citizenship. A small number of states have extended that ID requirement to absentee b****ts, a requirement that all states should implement.

Examples of e******n f***d cases across the country v***r f***d cases from across the country, all of which have resulted in either a criminal conviction or an overturned e******n. The Heritage Database is not representative of the full scope of the problem. Unfortunately, too often v***r f***d goes undetected, and when it is discovered, overburdened prosecutors seldom prioritize these cases.

The right to v**e in a free and f**r e******n is the most basic civil right, one on which many other rights of the American people depend.

Congress and the states should guarantee that every eligible individual is able to v**e and that no one’s v**e is stolen or diluted.

V***r f***d is real and hundreds of convictions have been made and documented.

Preserving the great experiment that is the American republic is dependent upon free and f**r e******ns. When selecting a city councilor or the president of the United States, every American must be able to trust the process and the result, or the democratic system itself breaks down.

E******n integrity is essential and the security of the b****t box cannot be left to a simple honor system.. It is incumbent upon state governments to safeguard the e*******l process, and ensure that every v**er’s right to cast a b****t is protected.

The history of v****g in the United States
Contrary to the claims of many liberals, the problem of v***r f***d is as old as the country itself. As the U.S. Supreme Court noted when it upheld Indiana’s v**er identification law, “f**grant examples” of v***r f***d “have been documented throughout this Nation’s history by respected historians and journalists.”

Attempts to commandeer e******n results have been documented dating back to the 19th century, when New York City’s infamous Tammany Hall was synonymous with political corruption and e******n f***d. In one New York e******n 1844, 55,000 v**es were recorded even though there were only 41,000 eligible v**ers. Decades later, these efforts have continued and determined fraudsters have become only more creative in their efforts to fix the outcome of e******ns.

[b.Different types of e******n f***d,
There are many ways for criminals to steal v**es and change the outcome of an e******n. These include:
1.Impersonation fraud at the polls:V****g in the name of other legitimate v**ers and v**ers who have died, moved away, or lost their right to v**e because they are felons, but remain registered.

2 False registrations: V****g under fraudulent v***r r**********ns that either use a phony name and a real or f**e address or claim residence in a particular jurisdiction where the registered v**er does not actually live and is not entitled to v**e.

3. Duplicate v****g: Registering in multiple locations and v****g in the same e******n in more than one jurisdiction or state.

5.Fraudulent use of absentee b****ts: Requesting absentee b****ts and v****g without the knowledge of the actual v**er; or obtaining the absentee b****t from a v**er and either filling it in directly and forging the v**er’s signature or illegally telling the v**er who to v**e for.

6.Buying v**es: Paying v**ers to cast either an in-person or absentee b****t for a particular candidate.

4.Illegal “assistance” at the polls: Forcing or intimidating v**ers—particularly the elderly, disabled, illiterate, and those for whom English is a second language—to v**e for particular candidates while supposedly providing them with “assistance.”

5.Ineligible v****g: Illegal registration and v****g by individuals who are not U.S. citizens, are convicted felons, or are otherwise not eligible to v**e.

6.Altering the v**e count: Changing the actual v**e count either in a precinct or at the central location where v**es are counted.

7.B****t petition fraud: Forging the signatures of registered v**ers on the b****t petitions that must be filed with e******n officials in some states for a candidate or issue to be listed on the official b****t. [/b]

8. Mail in B****ts .dead v**er v**e.

Can illegal v**es actually affect e******n outcomes?
Liberal groups often claim that known instances of v***r f***d are inconsequential when compared to the total number of b****ts cast in American e******ns. However, as the National Commission on Federal E******n Reform has stated, the problem “is not the magnitude of v***r f***d. In close or disputed e******ns, and there are many, a small amount of fraud could make the margin of difference.” The U.S. Supreme Court has concurred with this assessment, noting that known instances of fraud “demonstrate that not only is the risk of v***r f***d real but that it could affect the outcome of a close e******n.”

Indeed, recent e******ns bear this out. In 2015, a city council e******n in the New Jersey town of Perth Amboy was decided by a mere 10 v**es. A judge overturned the e******n and ordered a new one after it was revealed that at least 13 illegal absentee b****ts had been cast. The 2003 mayoral primary in East Chicago, Indiana, was overturned by the state Supreme Court after evidence of widespread fraud was revealed. The new e******n resulted in a different winner. Numerous convictions for e******n f***d resulted from this e******n, and are documented in The Heritage Foundation’s V***r F***d Database.

Who is responsible for ensuring the integrity of e******ns?
Each state is generally responsible for the administration of its own e*******l systems, including e******ns for federal office. State governments must take this responsibility seriously and adopt policies sufficient to secure their e******ns against fraud, including efforts by non-citizens to v**e, and by citizens registered in multiple states.

The Heritage Foundation has outlined several policies states should adopt, including requiring government-issued identification and proof of citizenship to v**e. States should enter into interstate v***r r**********n crosscheck programs to identify v**ers registered in multiple states. They should verify the accuracy of their v***r r**********ns, by comparing v**er rolls with jury forms, DMV files, and other government records to identify noncitizens so that they can be removed from v**er rolls. The federal government should cooperate with state efforts to clean up their registrations, and make Department of Homeland Security and other databases available to state officials for this purpose.

In recent years, some proactive secretaries of state across the country have taken the lead in securing American e******ns. Kansas’ Interstate V***r R**********n Crosscheck Program has identified hundreds of thousands of potential duplicate registrations in the 30 states participating in the initiative, as well as evidence of double v****g. At the same time, more states have passed v**er ID laws to detect and deter fraud.

There are now 34 states that have laws requiring v**ers to show some form of identification at the polls, although not all require photo identification or proof of citizenship. A small number of states have extended that ID requirement to absentee b****ts, a requirement that all states should implement.

Those Photo ID's could be irrelevant if mail in b****t is implemented, therefore more fraud could exist.

Jlw Loc: Wisconsin

I am thinking cyanide

Radiance3

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Note: Some paragraphs were duplicated. I was tired and was already late last night. sorry about that.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

sorry Rad, but you post nothing but the lies from the orange wanna be dictator in the oval office.. wh**ever he says, you post like the sheep he wants to back him..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I understand that J, it is a high bar to reach before I accept someone as a friend..

They must at least help hide the body.