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Jul 24, 2014 13:19:18   #
Bruce Kennedy Loc: Kansas
 
semper-fi wrote:
Wouldn't trust you to!


You know I don't really give a s**t, don't you? When I served, in the military, it wasn't about politics. It was about trust. And the men I served with trusted me and I trusted them. But I see your brain has deteriorated to the point where, you believe a person's political beliefs will determine whether or not they have your back. I'm sure even someone, as "challenged" as you, must realize you served with people that think like I do. Although you're probably in denial, that is even possible. I don't know how you lost the use of your legs, but if it was in combat, was it the result of the actions, of a "Liberal"? Was there a situation when a "Liberal", in your unit, had a chance to help you and refused to do so, because of your political beliefs? You really don't know just how far fetched that sounds. You say you couldn't trust me, and that's fine, but I guess the reason you could not trust me is because I am a Liberal. But what about all the Liberals you served with? Did you tell them you didn't trust going into combat, with them? And really what exactly didn't you "trust" about them? I've often said, the "challenged" Conservative mind can not process the notion of complexity. In other words, to the challenged Conservative mind, no Liberal could have ever served in the military. That shows you just how "challenged" the Conservative mind is. But I never served with you so I don't know if I would have trusted you or not? But if we were ever in a fire fight together it really wouldn't be about whether or not you're Conservative or a Liberal. It would be about doing your job and trying to survive. You see this BS thing about not "trusting" a fellow Marine is nonsensical. Now realize I was never in combat, so I don't speak from any "combat" experience, but I'm fairly certain that if there were Marines, who served in combat together, and there was "mistrust" among them, it wasn't because of political ideologies, it would be about whether or not they felt their fellow Marine could perform the task, under duress. It wouldn't be whether or not they were a "Con" or a "Lib". Now you may be trying to imply that "Libs" are cowards", which would really highlight just how "Challenged" you really are. Look at all the Democratic members of Congress that are military vets. And ones like Tammy Duckworth gave as much, if not more, than you gave, she has "NO" legs, and she and I think a lot alike. Give me your scenario of "mistrust". You put it into context of "not walking point" for me. The fact that you're "walking point" for the entire squad is lost on you. So what's the deal? What exactly do you "mistrust"? My ability to perform? You don't even know me, so how would you say something as "challenged" as that? What I hear, from you, is that you "mistrust" me because of my political beliefs, and that is just too "challenged". You may realize that I've made a conscious effort not to use the word "ignorant". But of course "Cons" make that very challenging.

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Jul 24, 2014 15:54:42   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: And they have, figuratively speaking. but as you say, would do it literally if the occasion arose.
Shades of Chuck Colson, remember him, the guy who said he'd run over his grandmother for Nixon?

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Jul 24, 2014 16:03:10   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
LAPhil wrote:
Shades of Chuck Colson, remember him, the guy who said he'd run over his grandmother for Nixon?


He was once Nixon's special counsel and later became an Evangelical Minister, if memory serves.

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Jul 24, 2014 16:11:34   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
He was once Nixon's special counsel and later became an Evangelical Minister, if memory serves.
Right, he was one of several people involved in the Watergate scandal who got religion.

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Jul 24, 2014 16:19:48   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
LAPhil wrote:
Right, he was one of several people involved in the Watergate scandal who got religion.


After Nixon's fall from grace, many of his acolytes could use a little religion. :lol:

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Jul 24, 2014 16:20:32   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
After Nixon's fall from grace, many of his acolytes could use a little religion. :lol:
I guess that's a good way of looking at it.

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Jul 24, 2014 18:12:41   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
RetNavyCWO wrote:
That doesn't make your point, Loki. Of all the things mentioned, the most important to i******s is that $49,191 of household income. Take that away by forcing employers to hire only legal residents, and the welfare benefits alone won't be enough to keep them here. Of course they take advantage of wh**ever welfare benefits they can, but it is not those benefits that bring them here; it's jobs and $$. Education and future opportunities for their kids are probably the next biggest incentives to come here. If we restrict welfare benefits to U.S. citizens and legal residents only, as well are prohibiting i******s from attending our schools, we'd see a mass departure, or at the very least, a big drop in new arrivals. Securing the border would help, but it would not solve the problem. They will find ways to get in as long as they know they will be able to find work. We need Americans to stop hiring them! The wealthy like their nannies and groundskeepers, though, so I'm not holding my breath.
That doesn't make your point, Loki. Of all the th... (show quote)


You are, as you are no doubt aware, correct in your post. By securing the border, you will cut down on the number of i******s in the country. I am particularly speaking of smugglers and cartel mules. The recent case of Jesus Diaz shows how despicable the Federal Government has become in their actions regarding smugglers. The children of i******s born on American soil should not be granted automatic citizenship. This is the proverbial foot in the door. The actions of the Mexican Government regarding their facilitation of illegal entrants into the US are not those of a friendly power.
Your statement of welfare benefits is entirely correct. Our entitlement system is a sieve. These benefits should be restricted to US citizens with sever penalties for s**mmers.
No more jobs, no more welfare, no more food stamps, no more free medical care, except real emergencies. Make them as unwelcome here as Mexico does to her i******s. Give our own covert assistance to i******s wishing to return to Mexico. Tax every dime sent to Mexico by i******s sending money home. Make it more trouble than it is worth to stay here.
Reform welfare and re-institute the work requirement. Able bodied recipients should not be allowed to turn down employment they are capable of doing.
Drug test all recipients.
Reduce welfare payments to the non-disabled. If I was an unsk**led laborer who could make more on welfare than a minimum wage job, I wouldn't work either. School or work.
Don't tell me about "demeaning" work. I have done it. Only for a month or so, until I found something better. One does what one has to to get by temporarily.
Stop paying women to have babies out of wedlock. Over 70% of black children and about half of Hispanic children are born into one parent homes. The astronomical crime rate among young black and Hispanic males is the result. I suppose I have ranted long enough.

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Jul 24, 2014 18:17:19   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Loki...

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 24, 2014 18:24:14   #
bahmer
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Loki...

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


I have to Amen that.

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Jul 24, 2014 22:07:43   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Loki wrote:
The children of i******s born on American soil should not be granted automatic citizenship. This is the proverbial foot in the door. The actions of the Mexican Government regarding their facilitation of illegal entrants into the US are not those of a friendly power.

Absolutely right. The 14th Amendment was never intended to make children of foreign nationals born on U.S. soil to be automatic citizens. The Supreme Court needs to revisit this.
Loki wrote:

Tax every dime sent to Mexico by i******s sending money home. Make it more trouble than it is worth to stay here.

YES! If you make it more trouble than it is worth to stay here you've basically solved the problem.

Great post all around, Loki!

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