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Aug 15, 2020 19:35:25   #
Auntie Dee
 
Cherokee38 wrote:
I had a boss who help correct my thinking he said complain about anything as I only require you do 2 things. One you must have a solution and two explain how it fixes the complaint.

Boy did that change the way I saw things after that. It is easy to complain about things but when you have to fix them it becomes more difficult. Example I hear all the time how Trump has mishandled the v***s. But they haven't explained how it should have been handled. Most people don't know /they are just unhappy the way it is.

Think about this before you start whining again.
I had a boss who help correct my thinking he said ... (show quote)


I AGREE, a good lesson to remember!

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Aug 15, 2020 19:36:38   #
Auntie Dee
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Oh, that's right! The v***s didn't originate in China and the Chinese government didn't cover it up. It really started at RNC headquarters. As for experimental drugs, don't you find it odd that Hydroxychloroquine seems to work quite well everywhere but the US? Yes, let's let the doctors do the prescribing. That's how we get nearly 200,000 deaths a year in this country from physician's error.


GREAT RESPONSE!!

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Aug 15, 2020 19:45:30   #
Auntie Dee
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Well gosh, that's easy. First, shut his yapper & let Dr's do the talking & answer health related questions. Second, don't recommend experimental drugs. That's why we have Dr's, let them do the prescribing of medicines. Here's a another one for you. Accept the fact the economy is going to suffer, but peoples lives are more important. Don't blame China and falsely accuse them & don't lie to the American public by saying things are o.k. or under control when clearly there not. Think you & your boss are satisfied?
Well gosh, that's easy. First, shut his yapper &am... (show quote)


Your ANSWERS are not solutions...they are merely MORE COMPLAINTS! Wouldn't satisfy ANYONE except a compliant SHEEPLE!



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Aug 15, 2020 19:46:56   #
Auntie Dee
 
drlarrygino wrote:
TicToc talks about being scientific and then applies the Scientific Theory erroneously and unscientific by starting out with a false premise. "Trump is responsible for the v***s" is already a false statement so his conclusion will be wrong. If he stated, " The c*******t Chinese started the v***s in their W***n lab," he would have stated a scientific fact and possibly his conclusion would be more accurate. In fact if he said, "Ovommit and Fauxci gave $35 million to the W***n Lab, of American taxpayer money, to study C****a v***ses and determine how they could be altered to be more infectious", he would have been more scientific.
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Aug 15, 2020 19:50:13   #
Auntie Dee
 
Elmer Werth wrote:
A delayed reply to Smedley--The reason HCQ doesn't work in the US because the FDA refused to recognize anything anything but F***i's late stage test and HCQ has a very weak effect at late stage. Then F***i blames the late stage damage that existed before HCQ on the treatment. The FD started by saying v***s victims should stay home till they experience respiratory distress; that is a little late to start treatment for full recovery. The FDA ignores the fact that the Ford hospital in treating 2,500 patients of mixed ages and mixed stages cut the death toll 50% for HCQ treated patients and individual Dr's treating only beginning cases have a death rate less than 4 %. My opinion is HCQ is being suppressed for mercenary and political reasons and F***i and the FDA should be slow hung with a chain hoist one link at a time for aggravated murder of thousands. Their accompilces in the media, big Pharma, and Demo party leadership should spend time on a 14th century rack before being hung. Suppression of HCQ is a crime only exceeded by Hitler and the Chinese purge.
Elmer Werth
A delayed reply to Smedley--The reason HCQ doesn't... (show quote)


Your method of torture sounds rather extreme...but I CONCUR with your statements about HCQ! All those NEEDLESS DEATHS is an American Tragedy that hopefully will someday be EXPOSED!

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Aug 15, 2020 20:02:02   #
maryjane
 
Cherokee38 wrote:
I had a boss who help correct my thinking he said complain about anything as I only require you do 2 things. One you must have a solution and two explain how it fixes the complaint.

Boy did that change the way I saw things after that. It is easy to complain about things but when you have to fix them it becomes more difficult. Example I hear all the time how Trump has mishandled the v***s. But they haven't explained how it should have been handled. Most people don't know /they are just unhappy the way it is.

Think about this before you start whining again.
I had a boss who help correct my thinking he said ... (show quote)


And unhappy people always want someone to blame. Today, in our country, that person is President Trump, who gets the blame for every single thing, no matter how ludicrous.

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Aug 15, 2020 20:08:33   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
That's just it tippy, which doctors? All but 4 institutions have been bought. So CDC, WHO, FDA, UN, Big Pharma F***i, Birx all bought, no longer if ever trustworthy. Remember something called RIGHT TO TRY? Or is that beyond your memory? When I see dozens of doctors say HQC works. I'm not going to say no. You are the one with fear/panic/hyped beyond what many should be subjected to, but you bought it and eat it up asking for more. You don't think the WuFlu came from China? Maybe we really are making some progress. Where do you think? If you'd rather keep it private pm me. Maybe initially it didn't but they sent it. And they are trying to undermine the US in every way. Does CNN tell you about that? I doubt it since they are both almost partners and simultaneously afraid of an assassination in the middle of the night.
That's just it tippy, which doctors? All but 4 ins... (show quote)


There's nothing to keep private. SARS was quite a few years ago & I don't think it's been definitely proven where that came from so c***d will probably take awhile. As far as progress, it seems like we are. Texas has over 500k confirmed cases and about 11000 deaths. I can't say which Dr to listen. I think trump should have let the medical professionals do the speaking about v***s, things may have gone better for him (trump). His personality is the type "no one wants too tell the emperor they're naked" or his advisors are afraid to be the bearer of bad news. Not an effective was to lead. We all have our opinions, you & I just happen to have different ones. I believe c***d is a zoonic disease that in this case originated in China. Others, like Ebola started in Africa. Swine flu, or H1N1 originated in Mexico. Incidentally, we don't call that Mexican flu or mexiflu. Calling c***d wuflu only confuses the issue. I don't believe China released it intentionally. Our two economies are too intertwined.

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Aug 16, 2020 01:20:20   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Very good points, thankyou.


Maybe we should listen to more than one point of view. The studies of hydroxychloroquin are promising. One study said otherwise, but was found to be flawed and the results were questionable. Yet that is the one study the left points to. I have read of studies that the drug ivermectin has shown positive results. I am familiar with ivermectin, but I can't find more information about this and I am curious as to how an antiparasite drug works against a v***s. When you hide information, you cause people to question everything you say.

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Aug 16, 2020 01:43:15   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Oregano oil is a great antiv***l...Green tea mixed with liquid zinc is another...U.S. grown Garlic, grapefruit, lemons, limes, apple cider vinegar, red clover, licorice, tumeric-oil-extract, turkey-tail and sun-mushrooms are all immune
system boosters...I could go on and on

Most folks will never venture outside the norm and into the wild to try centuries old cures

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Aug 16, 2020 03:18:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Crayons wrote:
Oregano oil is a great antiv***l...Green tea mixed with liquid zinc is another...U.S. grown Garlic, grapefruit, lemons, limes, apple cider vinegar, red clover, licorice, tumeric-oil-extract, turkey-tail and sun-mushrooms are all immune
system boosters...I could go on and on

Most folks will never venture outside the norm and into the wild to try centuries old cures

Something we agree on

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Aug 16, 2020 06:13:45   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
Your ANSWERS are not solutions...they are merely MORE COMPLAINTS! Wouldn't satisfy ANYONE except a compliant SHEEPLE!


The solution it's the Nov ejection when trump is sent packing.

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Aug 16, 2020 06:28:04   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Kickaha wrote:
Maybe we should listen to more than one point of view. The studies of hydroxychloroquin are promising. One study said otherwise, but was found to be flawed and the results were questionable. Yet that is the one study the left points to. I have read of studies that the drug ivermectin has shown positive results. I am familiar with ivermectin, but I can't find more information about this and I am curious as to how an antiparasite drug works against a v***s. When you hide information, you cause people to question everything you say.
Maybe we should listen to more than one point of v... (show quote)


That's an interesting perspective. It's easy for us (not just you & I but others) to sit and ponder different remedies, but for those that become truly sick, your near the end of the line. You haven't time for internet searches for "other" medicines that look promising. Your life is h*****g in the balance by a thread and the only people that might be able to help are hospital Dr's & health professionals. They are going too use what is approved by medical boards ( I guess CDC?) unless you have one that wants to experiment with these alternative remedies. To do otherwise risks lawsuits (if you die) & loss of their license to practice medicine. It's difficult to know in whom to trust especially if it's you or a loved one. The decision becomes more arduous with all the information available on the internet. Unfortunately, a lot of posted information isn't true.

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Aug 16, 2020 06:37:30   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
That's an interesting perspective. It's easy for us (not just you & I but others) to sit and ponder different remedies, but for those that become truly sick, your near the end of the line. You haven't time for internet searches for "other" medicines that look promising. Your life is h*****g in the balance by a thread and the only people that might be able to help are hospital Dr's & health professionals. They are going too use what is approved by medical boards ( I guess CDC?) unless you have one that wants to experiment with these alternative remedies. To do otherwise risks lawsuits (if you die) & loss of their license to practice medicine. It's difficult to know in whom to trust especially if it's you or a loved one. The decision becomes more arduous with all the information available on the internet. Unfortunately, a lot of posted information isn't true.
That's an interesting perspective. It's easy for ... (show quote)

There is what is called compassionate use. That is where an off label use of a treatment, like using hrydroxychloroquin for c***d, or the use of experimental treatments when all else has failed. Basically, you're out of options and, unless there is a miracle, you will die. Then they will allow a hail Mary pass as a last resort. Many times alternative treatments (like homeopathy) are tried in conjunction with traditional treatments.

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Aug 16, 2020 09:45:07   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
That's an interesting perspective. It's easy for us (not just you & I but others) to sit and ponder different remedies, but for those that become truly sick, your near the end of the line. You haven't time for internet searches for "other" medicines that look promising. Your life is h*****g in the balance by a thread and the only people that might be able to help are hospital Dr's & health professionals. They are going too use what is approved by medical boards ( I guess CDC?) unless you have one that wants to experiment with these alternative remedies. To do otherwise risks lawsuits (if you die) & loss of their license to practice medicine. It's difficult to know in whom to trust especially if it's you or a loved one. The decision becomes more arduous with all the information available on the internet. Unfortunately, a lot of posted information isn't true.
That's an interesting perspective. It's easy for ... (show quote)

Your last sentence is correct!
So sad that many people have undergone procedures using respirators, to their detriment, because of the liberals perspective on HCQ.
Money seems to be more important than lives to F***i and friends.

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