There are a number of posts on the form using John Hawkins comments on what liberalism really is. I question how does he know what makes a person think of themselves as a liberal. Has he sat down and talked to a few thousand of people who claim to be liberal to see what the think. Perhaps if we could sit down an talk out some issues one on one, we might find some ground we could agree on as well as so ground we discover we can not, but I think you would find, if both sides could keep an open mind, we could agree as many times as not.

There are a number of posts on the form using John Hawkins comments on what liberalism really is. I question how does he know what makes a person think of themselves as a liberal. Has he sat down and talked to a few thousand of people who claim to be liberal to see what the think. Perhaps if we could sit down an talk out some issues one on one, we might find some ground we could agree on as well as so ground we discover we can not, but I think you would find, if both sides could keep an open mind, we could agree as many times as not.

I have sat down and talked to what you call liberals and they are not really that bad. Problem is with the progressives, not the liberals. While the liberals are off in dream land on most things, they do agree that America is a great nation and should be protected. Progressives on the other hand demand that you not only see their point of view, but you have to agree with it and they are never wrong. They would even go so far as to k**l everyone that does not agree with them.

You have to understand that there is a vast difference between a liberal and progressive and they are the ones k*****g our country. The main problems come in when the liberal agrees with the progressives. They think they are the same and are out for the common good, but they will stab even you in the back if it meats their needs.

Seal the border by first standing up to Mexico telling them that their corruption and dysfunction are the primary causes of people v****g with their feet. When has ANY American politician or opinionated news caster EVER said this? We next move as many military bases as we can spread along the border and make protection part of their training.
Fences and high tech. security can fill the gaps.

(I think it is illegal to use troops on U A soil without declaring marshal law)

Finally, we charge the countries from which we catch i******s.

( What do we charge them and how do we collect said charges?)

Clearly there's many other ways. Just gotta DO IT.

(like what?)

Paying for it? We quit subsidizing i******s and use that money. That'll do for starts...

(Exactly what money are you talking are you talking ?)

(I think it is illegal to use troops on U A soil without declaring marshal law)

Facetiously, Obama can do anything He wants with his pen. Seriously, border protection is a legitimate military function. Posse comitatus only forbids using the military for control of, or against, American citizens. This is not the case here.

(As I read it, to use Posse Comitatus, in the role of police that either some act of nature or marital law, which could be done. What has happened to the quote on the Statue of Liberty? “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”, what happened to this ?)

Finally, we charge the countries from which we catch i******s.

(What do we charge them and how do we collect said charges?)
This may be window dressing, however, send them a bill with a note to put their own houses in order and quit sending us their problems. Deduct from foreign aid. Especially Mexico, we can suspend NAFTA.

( They would tell us to put our house in order, if we were not one of the major markets of illegal drugs many would not be mules bring drugs in, if there were not people to hire them many would not come. If there were not people who are will to help them c***t the system many would not come, perhaps were need to clean our house first?)

Clearly there's many other ways. Just gotta DO IT.

(like what?) I am surmising others have ideas as well...

Paying for it? We quit subsidizing i******s and use that money. That'll do for starts...

(Exactly what money are you talking are you talking ?)

Well, Obama is attempting to extort $4B for the current travesty. (If the R's refuse then they are "h**ers" and "want children to starve.") But that is not your question since this money has not been appropriated. However, this country is spending an inordinate level of already appropriated border funds, as well as t***sferring money from other programs to service these so-called "unescorted children." Parenthetically, that is a fraud as well. most of these "children" are 17 or older.

(The 3.7 billion, I think that is the correct figure, is to feed, cloth, house and medical treatment, as well as legal aid for a deportation hearing the have to go through by American law that was signed by G W Bush.

Can you show me where most of these "children" are 17 or older.?