The Dutchman

An Excellent Response to 'Native American' Elizabeth Warren and her '11 Commandments of Progressivism’

Crazy l*****ts want Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren to run for president in 2016. She’s described as a “liberal superstar.” Many are dumping Hillary for Warren. It could be the battle of the sexless in 2016. What were the people of Massachusetts thinking? She's not only a plague on Massachusetts, but she's a plague on the nation since she has a v**e.

Speaking at Netroots Nation, a convention for liberal bloggers and activists, Elizabeth Warren outlined her “11 Commandments of Progressivism.” My brief commentary follows:

1. We believe that Wall Street needs stronger rules and tougher enforcement, and we're willing to fight for it.

There is no single entity called Wall Street. What we really need are stronger rules and tougher enforcement on Washington that bails out faltering companies and banks. Washington spends money it does not have. Elected officials like Warren steal from the working class so they can give it to non-workers who will continue to v**e to keep politicians like Warren power. There is an unhealthy relationship between government and business that only the free market can fix.

2. We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth.

Actually, Progressives don’t believe in science or they wouldn’t support same-sex sexuality (the biology and anatomy are all wrong), evolution (something from nothing), and the skewed and manipulated numbers that go into fabricating the crisis of G****l W*****g, C*****e C****e, and now Climate Chaos. Furthermore, if Progressives truly believed in science, they would engage critics of G****l W*****g in debate. Instead, the claim is made that “the debate is over.” Progressives don’t want debate because there’s too much money in a global “crisis” like g****l w*****g.

3. We believe that the Internet shouldn't be r****d to benefit big corporations, and that means real net neutrality.

Governments should keep their hands off the internet. Once any type of control is given, there is no end to it. Progressives will end up controlling the oversight committees that make the laws and turn the internet into a State-run media congolmerate. Those supporting net neutrality tell us that it would not be directed by the government; that it would make the internet more free and open. Don’t you believe it. If a liberal like Elizabeth Warren is behind it, it must be a bad idea for freedom. The internet is doing just fine. Businesses are created every day. The little guy can be up and running in a day. See “K*****g Net Neutrality Helps Underdogs Succeed.”

4. We believe that no one should work full-time and still live in poverty, and that means raising the minimum wage.

Calls for raising the minimum wage are ongoing. Once again, the government should get out of telling companies what they should pay. They are already burdened with paying the employer’s side of Social Security and Medicare and unemployment compensation tax. This says nothing about insurance, rent, upkeep, training, inventory costs, etc. Raising the minimum wage will force some employers to let employees go because of increased costs. The extra work will be passed on to the more experienced retained employees.

5. We believe that fast-food workers deserve a livable wage, and that means that when they take to the picket line, we are proud to fight alongside them.

Liberal policies already control the marketplace. Who will define a “livable wage”? The government will. There will be no end to what a livable wage might include: a certain size house; so much for food each month; a clothing allowance; paid vacations; t***sportation; education, birth control, etc. The most inexperienced workers will be shut out because of hiring expenses. The less qualified will find it harder to get a job. Teen unemployment will rise. “[M]inimum-wage legislation discriminates against teenage black males. This has been known by economists since at least the mid-1950s. The statistical evidence on this was overwhelming.” Walter Williams argues: “‘How does someone who is part of a group that is discriminated against find a way to prove to somebody doing the discriminating that his assessment is incorrect?’ It was really this question: ‘How do undesirables break through the discrimination against them?’”

6. We believe that students are entitled to get an education without being crushed by debt.

Entitled? Should I be forced to pay for the education of other people? No one forced these people to go into debt. No one has to go to college. There is no requirement that a college education has to be completed in four years. No one is forcing anybody to go to expensive schools. The case could be made that government money and cheap educational loans increases the cost of college.

7. We believe that after a lifetime of work, people are entitled to retire with dignity, and that means protecting Social Security, Medicare, and pensions.

Who will be made to pay for bankrupt pension programs? Should I be forced to pay? Our government enacted legislation that gave us Social Security and Medicare. They have grown in scope far beyond their initial implementation. Medicare is bankrupt. Warren’s solution is more taxes.

8. We believe — I can't believe I have to say this in 2014 — we believe in equal pay for equal work.

There’s no such thing as “equal work.” All types of factors go into hiring and paying. If employees are not happy with what they are paid, they can (1) start their own business or (2) look for another job. I can’t believe I have to say this in 2014, but it’s no business of the government what an employee is paid.

9. We believe that equal means equal, and that’s true in marriage, it’s true in the workplace, it's true in all of America.

Warren wants “e******y” in everything. Forced e******y leads to poverty. E******y before the law is the goal, but not e******y in everything. There is no such attainable ideal unless we’re talking about C*******m. But even with C*******m, some people are more equal than others. There already e******y in marriage. No one is stopping two people from getting married as long as they are of different sexes. The law has been equally applied. Changing the definition of marriage by claiming that people of the same sex can marry is not e******y; it’s insanity.

10. We believe that immigration has made this country strong and vibrant, and that means reform.

This is one of her “commandments” that I and millions of others can agree with. The question is, however, what types of “reforms” do Progressives want?

11. And we believe that corporations are not people, that women have a right to their bodies. We will overturn Hobby Lobby and we will fight for it. We will fight for it!

Try owning and running a corporation without people. Corporations are owned by people, whether it’s one person or a group of people. Corporations are people. When Warren and her liberal thugs want to force their economic agenda on a corporation, who pays? People! Did people from Enron and WorldCom go to jail? Berrnie Ebbers of Worldcom was sentenced to twenty-five years in a federal prison. If corporations aren’t people, then why do they pay taxes, and why is Ebbers in prison?

One of the reasons the “corporations aren’t people” argument keeps coming up is because of the intrusive nature of government. Congress passed and the Supreme Court upheld the passage of the Affordable Care Act. Now the government has direct control over healthcare. As a result, for every question about the Act’s applicability and enforcement, the government must decide.

Warren and her ilk want to control every area of life, even unborn children by allowing women to k**l them. They want to empower the State to force companies to pay for abortifacients that k**l unborn babies. Women have a right to control their bodies, but they should not have the right to k**l an unborn body that is not their body.

As has been reported over and over again, Hobby Lobby did not deny any woman anything. Warren wants power to force companies to pay for healthcare that she wants to define.

More could be said on all these topics.

Everything you need to know about Elizabeth Warren’s claim of Native American heritage
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-controversy-over-elizabeth-warrens-claimed-native-american-heritage/2012/09/27/d0b7f568-08a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html

Nickolai

1. your free market fundamentalism and trickle down economics is a primary reason for the decimation of the middle class over the last 30-40 years and is continuing. Wall is a metaphor for moolah. (the moneyed class)
2 Yes we believe in science and protection the environment and the biosphere on the only home our species has ever known "Earth"
3. Yes we believe in Net neutrality and neither giant corporations of big government should control the net.
4. Yes we believe a person willing to work every day should be paid a wage that would would provide for the basic human needs food, shelter, clothing, A new report destroy's the view from the right that an increase in the min wage will cause unemployment, inflation and wreck the economy. That has never been true and those sates that have recently raised their minimum wage have seen an increase in hiring over states who have not budged, I've paid my half of payroll tax on as many as 80 employees and never considered it to be a burden
5. Livable wage (see above)
6. Student loan. Today's economic reality is such that a college education is necsessary in order to have a shot at a decent life. When I graduated high school in 1952 all high school students in California who graduated in the top one third of their class were entitled to free tuition to the state colleges and universities. Of course these were days when California taxpayers bevlieved in investing in the future of next generations
And so it goes with your skewed right wing thinking easily predicted from a lifetime listening to that crap way of thinking it leads to nothing positive or productive . It's just a fantasy that sounds right but is just failed thoeory. Progressives create progress not because of conservatism but in spite of it.

Try running a corporation with out workers. A corporation maybe owned by people but the corporation its self is not a person. Corporations among other things is basically a legal protection from personal liability for actions that could be harmful to real persons. When a corporation is thrown in jail that'll be the day.

Historically when men and women have worked side by side at the same work the men has been paid around 20% more than women . That kind of discrepancy still exists in 2014 . The Senate passed a sweeping reform bill last year the teepeer's in the house wont move on it.

migeli

Typical explanation of why a few wealthy oligarchs should be running everything so they can live off the masses and their entitled brats can own 10 homes all over the globe,6 yachts and keep all their money in tax shelters, shift all jobs to places where they can pay the lowest wages, and get corporate welfare from the taxpayers with no oversight or regulations to keep companies like Monsanto from poisoning us all and feeding us Soylent Green.

Nickolai

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: That's a pretty good analysis in few words

The Dutchman

This sure flushed out the libtard freaks Eh?
Elizabeth Warren is a nothing but lying progressive liberal b***h......

migeli

So corporations are people? Wait until the day Walmart or some incorporated church tells you how to run your life instead of a "government of we the people".It's almost to that point now.You are part of the conspiracy or a complete asshole for accepting the Corporations are People s**m by 5 Catholic trators on the supreme court.Im a Catholic but I dont want them running my life.You eiil see, nitwit.

The Dutchman

No one is trying to run your life nitwit! These corporations you want to dictate your twisted way of life to just don't want to be told what to do by a bunch of radical fanatics like yourself. If you h**e them so much quit supporting the companies they control! Don't work for someone that's not willing to pay you more than your worth! Get a grip NITWIT!!
And Elizabeth Warren is still nothing but a lying progressive liberal b***h......

migeli

Hey new oil deposits found in Iraq giving 50 trillion dollars to the incorporated Church of the Muslim brotherhood who are going to pour ten trillion "as people" into electing for Sharia Law here in America.May as well put a burka on the little woman and get your prayer rug out goofus, because corporations are people you know.

docwill

Your silly L*****t arguments aside, do you and the rest of the responders think YOU CAN TRUNCATE THE O.P...

CDM Loc: Florida

The direct question here is 'is Elizabeth Warren the new face of the Democrat party? In my estimation probably not.

If you pose the question 'is Elizabeth Warren the face of extremist leftism in America'? the answer becomes a resounding yes. She's nothing new though, just feeling empowered.

Obama purposefully did not impose the l*****t ideology to the extent he led the faithful to believe he would; partly because he didn't understand how D.C. works, that his own party would go only so far in support, but also because he became aware of the pain threshold of rank and file Americans.

Obama has tested that tolerance threshold and found the breaking point. In my mind this makes Warren an unlikely candidate at a time when too many people are wary of expansion or acceleration of Obama's l*****t principles and the promise of more make it up as you go.

If Democrats, up for ree******n or not, are rejecting Obama's help it is unlikely they will support someone perceived to be as or more toxic to their careers.

The most logical, slow, methodical progression toward total socialism would be Clinton or someone like her; using what's been put in place but not overly aggressive.

Warren is IMHO being used as a distraction. There is a much bigger game at play here than Warren is capable of seriously participating in; and it's yet to unfold.

The Dutchman

I think your right as can be....

migeli

You're the kind of people who went after Jesus because he was too socialistic.The corporations in the temples didnt like him either.

Ricko Loc: Florida

migeli-looks like you are hitting the sauce again. Your post does not make any sense. Sober up and try again tomorrow. Good Luck America !!!

docwill

Always get a laugh at that favorite L*****t, Jesus-as-Socialist, meme. Jesus' commandments to the rich guy, and to his followers about giving were based on voluntary personal actions, not some forced or contrived redistribution. As well, He drives the money-changers from the temple as an abominable activity IN HIS FATHER'S HOUSE. But HE DIDN'T TAKE THEIR MONEY AND GIVE IT AWAY and He didn't support Roman Senate Bill XLVII to Make Everything Equal.

You L*****ts have convenient and really fallacious metaphors for controlling the rest of us.

migeli