Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

roy

They have wanted ss gone since it started,the right likes to talk about democrates will make us a 3rd world country,If the conservatives ever get rid of ss we will become a third world country.Of course they will come out with all these plans like privatize, all kinds of different schems,but most want work for the average american.Americans are about 14 trillion in debt now,during the lockdown,after 2 weeks they can't pay their bills,If republicans ever sucede in doing away with ss what will happen when these people retire,,t***h is they don't care.Another thing people drawing ss now don't think they want cut yours to .

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

The Tea Party isn't done yet by the looks of it, Trump sort of ended the tea party now their like leaches sticking their head up smelling for blood. I heard that the $600 a week out of work relief payments are being cut to $200, maybe that's what the article is talking about, I couldn't figure it out.

bylm1-Bernie

Social Security is a good example of how a social program grows to foster dependence. It has been shown that our free market system of capitalism is strong enough to support a multi-billion dollar mandatory program. Contrary to what Democrats like to say, there are very few who seriously advocate getting rid of Social Security. It has been accepted and everyone gladly cashes their checks and views it as an entitlement that they have paid into for most of their lives. The big challenge is to keep politicians from seeing a big stack of money and doing what they can to get their hands on it.

moldyoldy

Those quack doctors were sent out by the tea party. Trump made a fool of himself again.

bylm1-Bernie

I have to smile at the conclusion you libs draw from wh**ever Trump says or does. Some might call your reaction biased.

Simple Sam Loc: USA

We can not continue to ignore problems and hope they go away. Medicare, Social Security, and care for disabled citizens are crucial components of the social contract our nation makes with its people – but despite their importance, the long-term financial outlook for the federal trust funds that support these programs grows dimmer by the year. The Trust Fund does not propose the elimination or even reduction of these programs, rather it creates a process to rescue the endangered federal trust funds and rein in the national debt. Read the bill, https://www.romney.senate.gov/sites/default/files/2020-07/TRUST%20Act%20of%202020%20Section%20by%20Section.pdf

The emphasis of the program reverts back to citizens and work permitted individuals (old Green Card holders) making it impossible for anyone, regardless of political persuasion, to "borrow" funds from these programs to support programs that are inclusive to noncitizens. This could tighten guidelines for enrollment. However, people over 65 and receiving benefits would not be "punished" by reducing their funds.

It is also worthy of mention, the proposed bill is bipartisan, not a GOP attack on Social Security. I agree with Erskine Bowles who said "Time is running out to enact critical and thoughtful reforms to appropriately fund our infrastructure and return solvency to Social Security and Medicare.” Of course, we can pretend nothing is wrong and just deny future applications of the elderly to withdraw funds from the accounts they have paid into for all their working years.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Have to disagree there, Trump uses the conf**gration-v***s as a fireman and a arsonist, so that's true but he's driven by his base on the one hand and compassion in the other.

What else can he do ?, that's just what the US wild west culture has produced, Sara Palin endorsed Trump in 2016 for the same reason she opted for the political backwater, she knows tea party politics is a weak losing pitch, they just want the GOP to be a permanent opposition of hillbillies turning over power to the cultural freakshow.

They know the reason their Reaganomics strategies can't work is because of the fact it is hinged on a false premise that assumes limited desire and insatiable resources, Ronald got it back the front, he never worked it out but the Koch brothers (mentioned in the article) have and their best bet is a friendly international freakshow with a Trotskyist culture at home, ie. the Democrats.

moldyoldy

Compassion and trump do not compute. He is driven by ego and greed, nothing more.

woodguru

They are talking about a program that sets up a board that can rip social security from behind the scenes without having to take responsibility for any legislation to do so...that and a payroll tax deduction that eliminates the contribution to social security, which would obviously act to defund the program.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I interpreted it that way too, a backhand attack on pensioners, but I can see the urgent need to reduce the deficit spending addiction that is bipartisan, only way to do it is increase interest rates create managed inflation and inflate away the debt as the economy gets bigger that will happen without much crashing because Federal and State debt has a commensurate relationship with the economy, as the economy gets bigger the debt stays the same so the proportion of debt to GDP gets diminished, that's what happened to WW2 debt, but inflation is essential and so will not be popular.

Also I was impressed with Simple Sam's post and agree with most of it except to say there is a negative aspect in so far as it is a bit naive to think his 2 page document is the genuine intent of the ruling political class, for the US to compete with China that may very well be c*******t but pays out very little in pensions, the US needs to reduce pensions and welfare spending in general, wasn't like that when the Soviet Union was in business because there was no competition just the threat of C*******m that caused Welfare Spending and pensions, worst thing that ever happened was Gorbachev's mother giving birth.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

Most people particularly politicians who have demands put on them that The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams didn't account for, if it did, Adams wouldn't have been convicted of a crime that he didn't commit, and the bear wouldn't have ever been stuck on a ledge where Trump is now.

moldyoldy

We waste about ten times as much as the rest of the world put together on weapons. We always have room for tax cuts for the rich. SS is paid for and was stolen by the politicians.

RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia

I think every unipolar power system is like that, I got it from Confucius and Ghanghus Kahn read the same things into his teaching, but this time it's different, Mongolia is quiet due to the South China Sea controversy, if only Japan had won the war this problem wouldn't exist, personally I like things the way they are, the USD is now being rivaled by the Euro that's the way it always was since 1990, the ¥ the € the $ and the £ would take turns being the dominant currency attracting Foreign Investment, probably that system is returning so the US will have to cut back, particularly on tax cuts for the rich.

I think the border wall was paid for by stolen money from SS