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75 Years ago today,
Jul 16, 2020 16:38:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
The First Shot.

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Jul 16, 2020 16:46:42   #
MStem
 
Terrifying. And sad, for me.
On the other hand, I have always hoped the sheer horror of it, kept more of that from being attempted.

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Jul 16, 2020 16:49:06   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
MStem wrote:
Terrifying. And sad, for me.
On the other hand, I have always hoped the sheer horror of it, kept more of that from being attempted.


Today was the first successful test, at Alamagordo NM.

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Jul 16, 2020 16:51:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Today was the first successful test, at Alamagordo NM.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was 75 years ago, I had a brain fart.

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Jul 16, 2020 16:51:02   #
MStem
 
Oops. I was thinking when it vaporized human beings. My bad.

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Jul 16, 2020 17:01:47   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
MStem wrote:
Terrifying. And sad, for me.
On the other hand, I have always hoped the sheer horror of it, kept more of that from being attempted.

Nuclear research began in the 1800s, it was inevitable that splitting the atom would lead to fission and eventually fusion.

The use of atomic bombs ended the war in the Pacific and saved millions of lives, American and Japanese.

Then came the Cold War and the MAD doctrine. No nation has yet been willing to risk nuclear war, but things could change.

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Jul 17, 2020 09:45:53   #
John Meoff
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
... The use of atomic bombs ended the war in the Pacific and saved millions of lives, American and Japanese...

This statement has been challenged. MacArthur and Eisenhower were opposed to using it as was Truman's Chief-of-Staff Leahy (but because he didn't think it would work.

The Japanese had passed info through channels that it wanted to surrender but on condition that it could keep its emperor, Hirohito. Truman insisted on unconditional surrender. We dropped the bombs, they surrendered and kept their emperor.

The figure of millions of lives has been debunked my many, if not most, military historians. They were out of fuel. I've read figures as low as 30,000, mostly Japanese.

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Jul 17, 2020 11:14:22   #
kemmer
 
John Meoff wrote:
This statement has been challenged. MacArthur and Eisenhower were opposed to using it as was Truman's Chief-of-Staff Leahy (but because he didn't think it would work.

The Japanese had passed info through channels that it wanted to surrender but on condition that it could keep its emperor, Hirohito. Truman insisted on unconditional surrender. We dropped the bombs, they surrendered and kept their emperor.

The figure of millions of lives has been debunked my many, if not most, military historians. They were out of fuel. I've read figures as low as 30,000, mostly Japanese.
This statement has been challenged. MacArthur and... (show quote)

I visited the Memorial Museum in Hiroshima. Graphic and gut-wrenching.

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