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"Fiddler On The Roof": It is a holy book of profund inspiration and truth
Jul 15, 2020 22:50:24   #
rumitoid
 
Delivered with such compassion and wit as to be easily palatable and yet also being quietly controversial. Many points to consider, high among them is suffering and accepting their fate in silent resignation. Would you? Did America in 1776?

For me, perhaps just for me, the very core of what the movie (and play) is saying is that Love overwhelms tradition. How? By the same nature of tradition: Love is God! The father is unchanging--but not by the rules, or traditions, we make, our understanding. He works uniquely within each of us. A father's personal love for his children who also honors God, is first, because God is love, and love rules supreme. We are always to act by the love of God. The church now and in my fifty year experience believes otherwise. They believe and press to make the point that their articles of faith determines who is a true Christian. Bless their hearts.

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Jul 16, 2020 09:49:54   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Delivered with such compassion and wit as to be easily palatable and yet also being quietly controversial. Many points to consider, high among them is suffering and accepting their fate in silent resignation. Would you? Did America in 1776?

For me, perhaps just for me, the very core of what the movie (and play) is saying is that Love overwhelms tradition. How? By the same nature of tradition: Love is God! The father is unchanging--but not by the rules, or traditions, we make, our understanding. He works uniquely within each of us. A father's personal love for his children who also honors God, is first, because God is love, and love rules supreme. We are always to act by the love of God. The church now and in my fifty year experience believes otherwise. They believe and press to make the point that their articles of faith determines who is a true Christian. Bless their hearts.
Delivered with such compassion and wit as to be ea... (show quote)


You don’t know the Church rumitoid. The Church is the body of believers whose Lord and Savior is Jesus Christ. Just because one claims to be Christian does not mean one is.

God laid out what we need to know and how to be saved in the bible. Not in a movie. There is only one holy book and it is NOT Fiddler on the Roof

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Jul 16, 2020 14:47:31   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
You don’t know the Church rumitoid. The Church is the body of believers whose Lord and Savior is Jesus Christ. Just because one claims to be Christian does not mean one is.

God laid out what we need to know and how to be saved in the bible. Not in a movie. There is only one holy book and it is NOT Fiddler on the Roof


Lordy, lordy, lordy, you are one anal Christian. Thank you for this ridiculous attack of my thread. You prove you are just a hater. Bless your heart.

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Jul 16, 2020 14:58:18   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Lordy, lordy, lordy, you are one anal Christian. Thank you for this ridiculous attack of my thread. You prove you are just a hater. Bless your heart.


You continually mock God and Christianity. When it comes to that I have no sense of humor.

Its not an ‘attack’. This is a forum where people speak their mind.

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Jul 16, 2020 21:49:29   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Lordy, lordy, lordy, you are one anal Christian. Thank you for this ridiculous attack of my thread. You prove you are just a hater. Bless your heart.


Every time you are confronted with personally insulting someone you claim that it is not an insult, it is just your “truth” as you see it! For seven long years you have been accusing people of insulting and attacking you! They’re just revealing their Truths!

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Jul 17, 2020 23:21:58   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
You don’t know the Church rumitoid. The Church is the body of believers whose Lord and Savior is Jesus Christ. Just because one claims to be Christian does not mean one is.

God laid out what we need to know and how to be saved in the bible. Not in a movie. There is only one holy book and it is NOT Fiddler on the Roof


Oi vey!

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Jul 18, 2020 09:36:41   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Oi vey!


Pretty sad that you can’t see how you mock God.

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Jul 18, 2020 15:40:13   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
You continually mock God and Christianity. When it comes to that I have no sense of humor.

Its not an ‘attack’. This is a forum where people speak their mind.


Sigh. Show me where I mocked God and Christianity with this tread.

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Jul 18, 2020 15:42:42   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Every time you are confronted with personally insulting someone you claim that it is not an insult, it is just your “truth” as you see it! For seven long years you have been accusing people of insulting and attacking you! They’re just revealing their Truths!


Okay. Thank you for sharing, I will take it under advisement.

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Jul 18, 2020 15:50:08   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sigh. Show me where I mocked God and Christianity with this tread.


{sigh}. You will never get it. Ask yourself why a movie inspires you more than God’s word. You mock the church - the body of believers - when you lie about it.

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Jul 18, 2020 18:12:41   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Okay. Thank you for sharing, I will take it under advisement.


Rumi, I found something very interesting! In 2013 you said something that contradicts what you claim now that you believe! You said, “being a Christian essentially means accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior and repenting of our sins. That is basic, the start. The doctrine will follow, such as the Trinity. Without recognizing Christ by mouth one is not Christian.”

Why do you now claim that the Trinity is false and never mentioning any of the rest of your comment?

Do you know what you believe or is this another attempt for attention?

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Jul 21, 2020 09:34:19   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
You continually mock God and Christianity. When it comes to that I have no sense of humor.

Its not an ‘attack’. This is a forum where people speak their mind.


And your mind always speaks animosity towards me with groundless accusations. But hey, this is America: fire away!

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Jul 21, 2020 09:45:49   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Rumi, I found something very interesting! In 2013 you said something that contradicts what you claim now that you believe! You said, “being a Christian essentially means accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior and repenting of our sins. That is basic, the start. The doctrine will follow, such as the Trinity. Without recognizing Christ by mouth one is not Christian.”

Why do you now claim that the Trinity is false and never mentioning any of the rest of your comment?

Do you know what you believe or is this another attempt for attention?
Rumi, I found something very interesting! In 201... (show quote)


Good question and thank you so much for your persistent and time-consuming attention to me. Sweet. We all grow if true believers, which is often painful to our egos. After investigating the highly questionable inclusion of the Trinity into our faith, I saw that I was wrong to believe in it. Such belief is only problematic if we use it as a cornerstone to faith, then it is destructive. I find it now a "disputable matter" and a distraction from our devotion in thought and deed to Christ. Thank you for asking.

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Jul 22, 2020 09:30:36   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Good question and thank you so much for your persistent and time-consuming attention to me. Sweet. We all grow if true believers, which is often painful to our egos. After investigating the highly questionable inclusion of the Trinity into our faith, I saw that I was wrong to believe in it. Such belief is only problematic if we use it as a cornerstone to faith, then it is destructive. I find it now a "disputable matter" and a distraction from our devotion in thought and deed to Christ. Thank you for asking.
Good question and thank you so much for your persi... (show quote)


You went in the opposite direction because you turned to the secular and mystical. That is tragic.

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Jul 22, 2020 09:32:54   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
And your mind always speaks animosity towards me with groundless accusations. But hey, this is America: fire away!


That tells me you know you mock God yet are fighting being convicted by the Holy Spirit.

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