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Jul 15, 2020 02:49:30   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Your baby is born with rare disease that makes him unable to breathe without machine, he can't eat without feeding tube,he is blind and he is deaf..... Doctors say there is no cure ..... What do you do? Do you

A) Let him suffer and keep him on the machine for the rest of his life ?

B) Turn the machine off and let him go in peace . ...

What would you do??Does this baby boy have the right to die with dignity ??

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Jul 15, 2020 03:18:59   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Your baby is born with rare disease that makes him unable to breathe without machine, he can't eat without feeding tube,he is blind and he is deaf..... Doctors say there is no cure ..... What do you do? Do you

A) Let him suffer and keep him on the machine for the rest of his life ?

B) Turn the machine off and let him go in peace . ...

What would you do??Does this baby boy have the right to die with dignity ??


Human that cannot survive in their own, or have no opportunity of recovery, should be allowed to die....

There is no dignity in keeping them alive...

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Jul 15, 2020 03:32:02   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Human that cannot survive in their own, or have no opportunity of recovery, should be allowed to die....

There is no dignity in keeping them alive...


Agreed !! I feel the same way!

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Jul 15, 2020 03:32:38   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
proud republican wrote:
Your baby is born with rare disease that makes him unable to breathe without machine, he can't eat without feeding tube,he is blind and he is deaf..... Doctors say there is no cure ..... What do you do? Do you

A) Let him suffer and keep him on the machine for the rest of his life ?

B) Turn the machine off and let him go in peace . ...

What would you do??Does this baby boy have the right to die with dignity ??


I would not k**l or cause a child's death. Knowing you worked for the butchers known as planned parenthood, I understand how you think people have a right to k**l those seen as burdens.

Do you know about Stephen Hawkins, he was on a ventilator and feeding tubes for most of his life. Beethoven went completely deaf by age 26. Joaquin Rodrigo was also deaf. Louis Thomas Hardin was blind. Sudha Chandran was an amputee. Marla Runyan had Stargardt’s Disease. Vincent Van Gogh was insane. Christy Brown had severe cerebral palsy. Helen Adams Keller, blind and deaf. The list goes on.

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Jul 15, 2020 03:35:24   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Simple Sam wrote:
I would not k**l or cause a child's death. Knowing you worked for the butchers known as planned parenthood, I understand how you think people have a right to k**l those seen as burdens.

Do you know about Stephen Hawkins, he was on a ventilator and feeding tubes for most of his life. Beethoven went completely deaf by age 26. Joaquin Rodrigo was also deaf. Louis Thomas Hardin was blind. Sudha Chandran was an amputee. Marla Runyan had Stargardt’s Disease. Vincent Van Gogh was insane. Christy Brown had severe cerebral palsy. Helen Adams Keller, blind and deaf. The list goes on.
I would not k**l or cause a child's death. Knowin... (show quote)


None of these individuals was born on a vemtilator... All were blessed to contribute to society....

Can you name an individual born on ventilator that has contributed anything???

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Jul 15, 2020 03:43:08   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
None of these individuals was born on a vemtilator... All were blessed to contribute to society....

Can you name an individual born on ventilator that has contributed anything???


A ventilator is mechanical and one can not be born with one. However Stevie Wonder was born at 34 weeks gestation in 1950 and immediately put onto a ventilator. He was a child prodigy and hugely successful musician, he has won 22 Grammy awards and has had over 30 top 10 hits. Stevie Wonder is blind due to retinopathy of prematurity (ROP), a complication of prematurity caused by underdeveloped vessels on a premature baby’s retinas. Through research in the years since, the incidence of vision issues is now greatly reduced. Then there was Sir Winston Churchill. Although he wasn’t due to be born until January of the following year, Sir Winston Churchill was born on November 30, 1874. Although he was born early, Churchill went on to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, a gifted military leader, and a recipient of the Nobel Prize for Literature. And my favorite, Albert Einstein. Physicist and Nobel Prize Winner in 1921, he was born early in Ulm, Germany in March 1879. Albert Einstein contributed more than any other scientist to the 20th-century vision of physical reality. At his birth, Albert’s mother was reputedly frightened that her infant’s head was so large and oddly shaped. His parents also worried about his intellectual development as a child due to his initial language delay and his lack of fluency until the age of nine. Only a couple examples, but all needed help breathing at birth.

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Jul 15, 2020 03:48:48   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Simple Sam wrote:
I would not k**l or cause a child's death. Knowing you worked for the butchers known as planned parenthood, I understand how you think people have a right to k**l those seen as burdens.

Do you know about Stephen Hawkins, he was on a ventilator and feeding tubes for most of his life. Beethoven went completely deaf by age 26. Joaquin Rodrigo was also deaf. Louis Thomas Hardin was blind. Sudha Chandran was an amputee. Marla Runyan had Stargardt’s Disease. Vincent Van Gogh was insane. Christy Brown had severe cerebral palsy. Helen Adams Keller, blind and deaf. The list goes on.
I would not k**l or cause a child's death. Knowin... (show quote)


Me working in Planned Parenthood have nothing to do with this particular case ... Boy was born unable to breathe on his own , unable to eat on his own,he won't hear his mom's voice,he won't know what love is..he won't
see the sky or smell the flowers ..All he will know is darkness ..... Is that any way to live ??

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Jul 15, 2020 03:49:00   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Simple Sam wrote:
A ventilator is mechanical and one can not be born with one. However Stevie Wonder was born at 34 weeks gestation in 1950 and immediately put onto a ventilator. He was a child prodigy and hugely successful musician, he has won 22 Grammy awards and has had over 30 top 10 hits. Stevie Wonder is blind due to retinopathy of prematurity (ROP), a complication of prematurity caused by underdeveloped vessels on a premature baby’s retinas. Through research in the years since, the incidence of vision issues is now greatly reduced. Then there was Sir Winston Churchill. Although he wasn’t due to be born until January of the following year, Sir Winston Churchill was born on November 30, 1874. Although he was born early, Churchill went on to become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, a gifted military leader, and a recipient of the Nobel Prize for Literature. And my favorite, Albert Einstein. Physicist and Nobel Prize Winner in 1921, he was born early in Ulm, Germany in March 1879. Albert Einstein contributed more than any other scientist to the 20th-century vision of physical reality. At his birth, Albert’s mother was reputedly frightened that her infant’s head was so large and oddly shaped. His parents also worried about his intellectual development as a child due to his initial language delay and his lack of fluency until the age of nine. Only a couple examples, but all needed help breathing at birth.
A ventilator is mechanical and one can not be born... (show quote)


Good examples... But the OP is based on the concept that there is no cure...

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Jul 15, 2020 03:51:42   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Good examples... But the OP is based on the concept that there is no cure...


Yes,doctors said there's no cure .....No brain activity ... in other words the boy is already dead,but machine keeping him alive ....

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Jul 15, 2020 03:55:48   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
proud republican wrote:
Me working in Planned Parenthood have nothing to do with this particular case ... Boy was born unable to breathe on his own , unable to eat on his own,he won't hear his mom's voice,he won't know what live is....All he will know is darkness ..... Is that any way to live ??


So go to his room and k**l him. Your choice. It is not your right, but I am sure you are capable of putting him down.

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Jul 15, 2020 03:58:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Simple Sam wrote:
So go to his room and k**l him. Your choice. It is not your right, but I am sure you are capable of putting him down.


No one is talking about murder...

This is a medical decision between the parents and the doctors....

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Jul 15, 2020 03:59:18   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Yes,doctors said there's no cure .....No brain activity ... in other words the boy is already dead,but machine keeping him alive ....


I understand... If it were my child I know the choice I would make...

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Jul 15, 2020 04:05:53   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No one is talking about murder...

This is a medical decision between the parents and the doctors....


In the absence of brain function, even on a ventilator, the body does not secrete important hormones needed to keep biological processes — including gastric, kidney and immune functions — running for periods longer than about a week. So, I say allow the parents to learn kindness, love, and loss. We are not always given children to teach, there are many times children teach us.

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Jul 15, 2020 04:06:55   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Simple Sam wrote:
In the absence of brain function, even on a ventilator, the body does not secrete important hormones needed to keep biological processes — including gastric, kidney and immune functions — running for periods longer than about a week. So, I say allow the parents to learn kindness, love, and loss. We are not always given children to teach, there are many times children teach us.


Sometimes love requires difficult decisions...

But I like your thinking as well...

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Jul 15, 2020 04:07:19   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No one is talking about murder...

This is a medical decision between the parents and the doctors....


According to law, a******n is also a medical decision made with the mother.

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