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Jul 18, 2014 21:47:01   #
Ricktloml
 
rumitoid wrote:
Two legitimate views:
For conservatives, it is an immigration crisis, demonstrating the failures of the U.S. immigration policy and the need for militarized borders.

For liberals, it is a humanitarian crisis, demonstrating the failures of U.S. economic policy, the immediate need for aid, and the necessity of immigration reform.

I agree with the second point. But I do not disagree with the first: where am I?


You are firmly on the liberal side, by implying that conservatives are not compassionate. Conservatives recognize that it is a humanitarian crisis, purposely caused by the Obama administration to further a radical agenda. By couching it in terms of liberal humanitarianism, versus conservative militarism you further the propaganda that liberals some how have the moral high ground, when in fact encouraging this invasion the liberals have become nothing more than coyotes and human traffickers. Then to imply that opposition to this sorry state of affairs that the Obama administration has been planning and implementing for months is somehow mean spirited is the usual liberal snake oil

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Jul 18, 2014 21:59:24   #
Ricktloml
 
son of witless wrote:
No giving amnesty makes the problem much worse. Again you liberals lack any knowledge of history. You have none at all. This was done before. The problem is never the i******s who are here now.

Go ahead and give amnesty to the 30 million, not the 11 million, but that's immaterial. Give amnesty to the 11 or 30 million. Problem solved, right? NO!!!!! Now you have just announced that Amnesty will be given in the future. You have just turned on a great magnet. You will then have another 50 million show up tomorrow.

Why are all these kids showing up now. Cause Obama put the word out that we will not enforce our laws. You Progressives never think these things through, or maybe you do. This mess is just what you guys love.
No giving amnesty makes the problem much worse. Ag... (show quote)


A better question is why do liberals want all these i******s showing up? Because more and more Americans are beginning to see the Obama administration for what it is, a power hunger, Constitutional shredding, extremist administration willing to lie and c***t to further his radical, fundamental t***sformation of this country. And Obama and the f*****t party of the Democrats need millions of new constituents who not only know nothing about living freely, but are eager to take wh**ever the almighty state will give them. These poor people are an entire new underclass of people, and the Democrats need a permanent underclass to stay in power. They know most people who expect fundamental liberties enumerated in the Constitution, won't take the least they can get, but those who have no such expectations will be easy prey for their propaganda

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Jul 18, 2014 22:53:52   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
You guys are Putin worshippers.
son of witless wrote:
We will see if our fellow Americans come through at the polls in November. Enough of them either v**ed for our current dictator or they did not v**e at all. Those folks owe the rest of us an apology. Too bad we all can't just move to where our type leaders are. If I could I'd move to Texas. Let all the Democrats move to New York, Illinois, and California. They could be the United States of NIC. They could adapt all of these poor kids from Central America.

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Jul 18, 2014 23:01:25   #
VladimirPee
 
fom wrote:
You guys are Putin worshippers.



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Jul 19, 2014 00:13:09   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You are firmly on the liberal side, by implying that conservatives are not compassionate. Conservatives recognize that it is a humanitarian crisis, purposely caused by the Obama administration to further a radical agenda. By couching it in terms of liberal humanitarianism, versus conservative militarism you further the propaganda that liberals some how have the moral high ground, when in fact encouraging this invasion the liberals have become nothing more than coyotes and human traffickers. Then to imply that opposition to this sorry state of affairs that the Obama administration has been planning and implementing for months is somehow mean spirited is the usual liberal snake oil
You are firmly on the liberal side, by implying th... (show quote)

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Jul 19, 2014 01:44:55   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Everything is an Obama plot to you guys. Long after he is gone the Obama plot assumption will still live on.
Tasine wrote:
I think you've got it!!!!!!!!
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Jul 19, 2014 07:55:11   #
VladimirPee
 
I don't think everything is an Obama plot. I just think he is inept.


fom wrote:
Everything is an Obama plot to you guys. Long after he is gone the Obama plot assumption will still live on.

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Jul 19, 2014 08:56:47   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
what would be "ept" to you and what would you do that is the correct way?
DennisDee wrote:
I don't think everything is an Obama plot. I just think he is inept.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:05:54   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
fom wrote:
Everything is an Obama plot to you guys. Long after he is gone the Obama plot assumption will still live on.


You know what really gets me about you ignorant Obama loving lefties? To you brain washed disciples of the Messiah it is okay to be; a sociopath, a narcissist, lazy, inept, incompetent, a pathological liar, inexperienced, corrupt, Marxist, just as long as you're a Democrat. No qualifications needed for a Democrat. You lefties sure have such a low standard for your candidates.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:18:16   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
A h**er of the poor the immigrant and the educator is what you righties want. Perpetual war is what you would bring.
JMHO wrote:
You know what really gets me about you ignorant Obama loving lefties? To you brain washed disciples of the Messiah it is okay to be; a sociopath, a narcissist, lazy, inept, incompetent, a pathological liar, inexperienced, corrupt, Marxist, just as long as you're a Democrat. No qualifications needed for a Democrat. You lefties sure have such a low standard for your candidates.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:19:37   #
PeterS
 
Ricktloml wrote:
You are firmly on the liberal side, by implying that conservatives are not compassionate.

But you aren't. That isn't an implication but a fact that you prove with everyday that goes by...

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Jul 19, 2014 09:30:23   #
VladimirPee
 
I would have made slight adjustments to healthcare by focusing on provider costs which is the actual problem not insurers. I would have avoided trying to dis the Bush administration with that silly reset button with Putin as if Putin would somehow change. I would have created a real stimulus plan that was not simply a payback for his union supporters. I would have permitted the Keystone Pipeline. I would place the missile defense system in Poland despite Putin's objections. I would close the borders immediately and allow states like Arizona to help in this border mess instead of filing lawsuits against them.

I could write for an hour but you get the point


fom wrote:
what would be "ept" to you and what would you do that is the correct way?

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Jul 19, 2014 09:36:36   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
fom wrote:
A h**er of the poor the immigrant and the educator is what you righties want. Perpetual war is what you would bring.


War on liberalism! Yeah, let's bring it on!

You blind i***ts on the left fail to see that under your Messiah's rudderless leadership that the poor have gotten poorer and the rich richer, and the middle class has shrunk. But, to you i***ts, he is compassionate and he means well. For you lefties it is his intentions, not the results that count. Go preach to your mirror, pal.

Go smoke another one of those Oregonian tokes that you grow so well.

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Jul 19, 2014 09:57:44   #
VladimirPee
 
I love immigrants. I just want them to come here LEGALLY


fom wrote:
A h**er of the poor the immigrant and the educator is what you righties want. Perpetual war is what you would bring.

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Jul 19, 2014 10:35:12   #
son of witless
 
fom wrote:
You guys are Putin worshippers.


Oooooh, that one hurt. Putin is a monster, but at least he is not incompetent. As long as you have no conscience Vlad is a great guy. As long as you have no brain Barak is a great guy.

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