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Jul 16, 2020 11:45:25   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Reuters poll - 2 out of 3 - that would be a majority. That’s a fact.


Show me the polls!

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Jul 16, 2020 12:01:02   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
The tax return issue has been going on for 4 years - long before the current e******n season.
The secrecy coupled with Trump's renown devious personality causes most people to be suspicious.


Do you really think that the IRS doesn’t go check his returns with a fine tooth comb every year! If there was any minute item that they could get him on, we would have heard by now! Do you not realize that a brigade of tax accountants and lawyers prepare his Taxes? The only reason that you Trump H**ERS want to see them is to have something to gossip about! It AIN’T gonna happen......So, move on!

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Jul 16, 2020 12:04:28   #
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. Loc: Pa
 
TexaCan wrote:
Show me the polls!


Since you were able to find this website I would expect you could google something. Maybe that's why you are a Trumpster.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e******n-poll/two-in-three-americans-want-to-see-trumps-tax-returns-reuters-ipsos-poll-shows-idUSKCN24G14N

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Jul 16, 2020 12:06:58   #
bahmer
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Since you were able to find this website I would expect you could google something. Maybe that's why you are a Trumpster.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e******n-poll/two-in-three-americans-want-to-see-trumps-tax-returns-reuters-ipsos-poll-shows-idUSKCN24G14N


And they only asked two democrats and one republican for their poll.

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Jul 16, 2020 14:02:44   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli. wrote:
Since you were able to find this website I would expect you could google something. Maybe that's why you are a Trumpster.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e******n-poll/two-in-three-americans-want-to-see-trumps-tax-returns-reuters-ipsos-poll-shows-idUSKCN24G14N


Polls! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

😂


The Evidence Is Clear: Polls Are Not To Be Trusted
Thomas Landstreet
Thomas LandstreetContributor
Markets
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Political polling season has arrived and serious minded people need to be wary. If you believe the coming e******n is important to your investment strategy and you want to approach the e******n with a clear head, take polls with a grain of salt.

There’s a simple, unassailable t***h about polls in the last e******n: they routinely surveyed more Democrats than Republicans, leading, I believe, to skewed results - a massive head f**e that rippled through the markets. I recommend that you not react to polls. Or, better yet, see for yourself by finding the details of how each survey was conducted. Here are a few recent examples of polls that garnered big headlines but that might just be inaccurate.

On July 15th, headlines in the Wall Street Journal and NBC roared, “Trump trails Biden, Warren, and Sanders” citing a recent poll, but is this really the case? Upon further investigation, the poll is comprised of 42% Democrats, 36% Republicans, 12% Independent, and 10% “other” or “not sure.” The categories “other” and “not sure” are left undefined, but they almost certainly contribute to what appears to be a misrepresentation. Recently, CNBC followed the same playbook, broadcasting headlines, “Trump Not Boosted by Strong American Economy." They reached this conclusion from the results of a poll conducted by the Associated Press- National Opinions Research Center in June. Respondents were asked if they approved of the overall job done by the president and if his tax cuts were benefiting them. Only 39% of individuals approved of Trump and a measly 17% of people claimed they benefited from his tax policy. Both of these figures are strikingly low, with 39% being the lowest average approval rating in decades. Taking a closer look, the poll lacks accuracy at its core. Out of 1,116 adults, 46% were Democrats, 36% were Republican and 44% were unemployed. If a ten percentage point difference in the political party wasn't enough to facilitate a bias, 44% unemployment ought to do it.





On August 13th, headlines blared about a Fox News poll ranking the Democrats and declaring that if the e******n was held today, Donald Trump would lose to each of the top three Democrat candidates. This poll hit the mainstream news echo chamber for a week as the press fashioned any number of doomsday headlines (to which Donald Trump had to respond that he "was not happy with it"). Of course, that statement hit the news for another week. Here, too, it appears that the results are skewed. It turns out that Fox News polled 8% more Democrats than Republicans.

For proof of the distorting effects of such polling, just consider the Trump vs. Clinton race in 2016. Out of twenty polls conducted by some of the most reputable news sources in the U.S., there was only one (IBD/TIPP) that gave Trump the edge on e******n day. Most of these polls gave Clinton a 70% chance to win and some were 99% convinced. Not surprisingly, CNBC published an article titled, “Trump Victory All but Impossible Based on Previous Races” a month before the e******n. Obviously, CNBC was pretty far off the mark. Again, attention to detail matters. In the research conducted in October 2016, 43% of the individuals interviewed were Democrats, 36% were Republicans, and 16% claimed to be Independent. Based on their prediction and the real outcome of the e******n, it’s possible that seven percentage points is more than just a rounding error.


So, as the barrage of poll-driven headlines commences, take a moment, follow these easy instructions and see for yourselves if the story line created by pollsters is accurate. If you look closely, you can find links imbedded in or at the bottom of each article or perhaps below graphs, if provided. Once you find the link to the source, you will be able to browse through the demographic and party affiliation data to make your own decision on its accuracy. That way, you can have a sober investment strategy as the e******n unfolds.

By: Thomas F. Landstreet and Samuel M. Waugh

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Jul 16, 2020 14:14:35   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
TexaCan wrote:
Polls! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

😂


The Evidence Is Clear: Polls Are Not To Be Trusted
Thomas Landstreet
Thomas LandstreetContributor
Markets
uncaptioned
Political polling season has arrived and serious minded people need to be wary. If you believe the coming e******n is important to your investment strategy and you want to approach the e******n with a clear head, take polls with a grain of salt.

There’s a simple, unassailable t***h about polls in the last e******n: they routinely surveyed more Democrats than Republicans, leading, I believe, to skewed results - a massive head f**e that rippled through the markets. I recommend that you not react to polls. Or, better yet, see for yourself by finding the details of how each survey was conducted. Here are a few recent examples of polls that garnered big headlines but that might just be inaccurate.

On July 15th, headlines in the Wall Street Journal and NBC roared, “Trump trails Biden, Warren, and Sanders” citing a recent poll, but is this really the case? Upon further investigation, the poll is comprised of 42% Democrats, 36% Republicans, 12% Independent, and 10% “other” or “not sure.” The categories “other” and “not sure” are left undefined, but they almost certainly contribute to what appears to be a misrepresentation. Recently, CNBC followed the same playbook, broadcasting headlines, “Trump Not Boosted by Strong American Economy." They reached this conclusion from the results of a poll conducted by the Associated Press- National Opinions Research Center in June. Respondents were asked if they approved of the overall job done by the president and if his tax cuts were benefiting them. Only 39% of individuals approved of Trump and a measly 17% of people claimed they benefited from his tax policy. Both of these figures are strikingly low, with 39% being the lowest average approval rating in decades. Taking a closer look, the poll lacks accuracy at its core. Out of 1,116 adults, 46% were Democrats, 36% were Republican and 44% were unemployed. If a ten percentage point difference in the political party wasn't enough to facilitate a bias, 44% unemployment ought to do it.





On August 13th, headlines blared about a Fox News poll ranking the Democrats and declaring that if the e******n was held today, Donald Trump would lose to each of the top three Democrat candidates. This poll hit the mainstream news echo chamber for a week as the press fashioned any number of doomsday headlines (to which Donald Trump had to respond that he "was not happy with it"). Of course, that statement hit the news for another week. Here, too, it appears that the results are skewed. It turns out that Fox News polled 8% more Democrats than Republicans.

For proof of the distorting effects of such polling, just consider the Trump vs. Clinton race in 2016. Out of twenty polls conducted by some of the most reputable news sources in the U.S., there was only one (IBD/TIPP) that gave Trump the edge on e******n day. Most of these polls gave Clinton a 70% chance to win and some were 99% convinced. Not surprisingly, CNBC published an article titled, “Trump Victory All but Impossible Based on Previous Races” a month before the e******n. Obviously, CNBC was pretty far off the mark. Again, attention to detail matters. In the research conducted in October 2016, 43% of the individuals interviewed were Democrats, 36% were Republicans, and 16% claimed to be Independent. Based on their prediction and the real outcome of the e******n, it’s possible that seven percentage points is more than just a rounding error.


So, as the barrage of poll-driven headlines commences, take a moment, follow these easy instructions and see for yourselves if the story line created by pollsters is accurate. If you look closely, you can find links imbedded in or at the bottom of each article or perhaps below graphs, if provided. Once you find the link to the source, you will be able to browse through the demographic and party affiliation data to make your own decision on its accuracy. That way, you can have a sober investment strategy as the e******n unfolds.

By: Thomas F. Landstreet and Samuel M. Waugh
Polls! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 br br 😂 br br br The Evid... (show quote)


The 2016 e******n is proof that polls are useless. They had Hillary ahead right up to when she dropped out and destroyed a big screen TV that I think was donated to her by Saudi Arabia

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Jul 16, 2020 14:49:39   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Oldsailor65 wrote:
The 2016 e******n is proof that polls are useless. They had Hillary ahead right up to when she dropped out and destroyed a big screen TV that I think was donated to her by Saudi Arabia
The 2016 e******n is proof that polls are useless.... (show quote)


They seem to have a short memory!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Jul 16, 2020 19:09:32   #
Cuda2020
 
Tug484 wrote:
That's ok with me too.
We all have a right to our opinion.
If I had to see tax returns, I'd rather see the ones of congress.


I'm fine with t***sparency with any elected person in congress. Now we just have to find a better way to excommunicate them aside from the first choice of firing them out of a cannon.

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Jul 16, 2020 19:11:43   #
Cuda2020
 
TexaCan wrote:
Do you really think that the IRS doesn’t go check his returns with a fine tooth comb every year! If there was any minute item that they could get him on, we would have heard by now! Do you not realize that a brigade of tax accountants and lawyers prepare his Taxes? The only reason that you Trump H**ERS want to see them is to have something to gossip about! It AIN’T gonna happen......So, move on!


The IRS does numbers, it doesn't concern themselves with who they are doing business with.

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Jul 16, 2020 20:42:31   #
jeff smith
 
Navigator wrote:
They don't need to make sense out of them. The President's tax returns are hundreds of pages long and incredibly complicated. All the MSM and Democrats (but I repeat myself) need to do is take a tiny part completely out of context to make something perfectly legal sound illegal and those with brainwashed weak minds will run with it.


you got that RIGHT !

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Jul 16, 2020 20:46:03   #
jeff smith
 
Airforceone wrote:
Fishing for what he said he would release his tax returns. So release them what is he hiding. Damm it was Trumps own SCOTUS that says Trump does not have absolute immunity. Nobody in this country is above the law.


you ever think that he threw that comment out JUST to piss the bimbocrats off? i'll show my tax returns in time . NOT!

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Jul 16, 2020 20:47:13   #
jeff smith
 
Airforceone wrote:
Rev Al is not the president and the last time I heard Rev Al was not being investigated. Besides who gives a shot about Rev Als taxes.


he should be!

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Jul 16, 2020 21:14:14   #
Cuda2020
 
jeff smith wrote:
you got that RIGHT !


Yes but his tax return will show it, and if anything is suspect he would be investigated, with things like cavorting with an enemy. Please don't tell me Russia,China or N.Korea is our friend.

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Jul 17, 2020 14:34:31   #
Tug484
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I'm fine with t***sparency with any elected person in congress. Now we just have to find a better way to excommunicate them aside from the first choice of firing them out of a cannon.


Yes.

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