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Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (Not Trump) Is Guilty of Dereliction of Duty
Matt Margolis ~ July 02, 2020
Despite the fact that the allegation that Trump ignored intelligence on alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops has been debunked, the left is still clinging to the story, hoping it will be their next Trump/Russia collusion h**x. Barack Obama’s former national security adviser Susan Rice recently penned an op-ed in the New York Times, essentially disputing the claims that Trump wasn’t aware of the intelligence. “As a former national security adviser, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no one told Mr. Trump about this intelligence,” she claimed.

Here’s what should have happened. Had I, as national security adviser, received even “raw” reporting that Russia was paying to k**l U.S. service members, I would have walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president.

Contrary to the spin-masters in the White House today, I would not have waited until we had absolute certainty. I would have said, “Mr. President, I want to make sure you are aware that we have troubling reporting that Russia is paying the Taliban to k**l our forces in Afghanistan. I will work with the intelligence community to ensure the information is solid. In the meantime, I will convene the national security team to get you some options for how to respond to this apparent major escalation in Russia’s hostile actions.”

If later the president decided, as Mr. Trump did, that he wanted to talk with President Vladimir Putin of Russia at least six times over the next several weeks and invite him to join the Group of 7 summit over the objections of our allies, I would have thrown a red f**g: “Mr. President, I want to remind you that we believe the Russians are k*****g American soldiers. This is not the time to hand Putin an olive branch. It’s the time to punish him.”

This is what would have happened in any prior administration of either political party.


According to Rice, “That it apparently did not is deeply troubling and raises myriad questions.”

If Mr. Trump was told about Russian actions, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Are his top advisers utterly incompetent? Are they too scared to deliver bad news to Mr. Trump, particularly about Russia? Is Mr. Trump running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Rice’s argument is belied by the facts. The intelligence wasn’t simply “raw” or “unverified.” An “intelligence official with direct knowledge” told Catherine Herridge of CBS News that intel on alleged Russian bounties only reached “low levels” of the NSC but “did not go further” because it was deemed “uncorroborated” and because of “dissent” within the intelligence community regarding its accuracy. The Department of Defense also said there was no corroborating evidence for the Russian bounties claim. An NSC official also told Herridge that a review of Trump’s P**********l Daily Briefings showed that the intelligence assessment about the Russian bounties was not included in them. If the intelligence was disputed and uncorroborated, it seems very unlikely that anyone would have made a point to inform Trump about this intelligence. If presidents were made aware of every bit of disputed and uncorroborated intelligence there was, one can only imagine how little time there would be for anything else.

Nevertheless, Rice concludes that Trump is guilty of dereliction of duty.

What must we conclude from all this? At best, our commander in chief is utterly derelict in his duties, presiding over a dangerously dysfunctional national security process that is putting our country and those who wear its uniform at great risk. At worst, the White House is being run by liars and wimps catering to a tyrannical president who is actively advancing our arch adversary’s nefarious interests.

What Susan Rice didn’t realize when she wrote this op-ed, is that she just made the most compelling case that Barack Obama, her former boss, is the one who is guilty of dereliction of duty.

Applying the Susan Rice standard to Barack Obama
While the evidence is clear that President Trump didn’t ignore the uncorroborated and disputed intelligence about alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops, we do know that President Obama was repeatedly briefed about the rise of ISIS, but failed to respond to this intelligence.

Is it possible Obama didn’t see the intel? It’s theoretically possible he missed multiple warnings. According to a former aide in the Obama administration, Obama got all his intelligence briefings in writing. “And it’s well-understood why,” explained the aide. “No one sits and watches him read them, and no one can come back later and tell Congress in a closed session that ‘I told the president this specific thing was likely to happen.'”

There are two possible explanations: (1) Obama saw the intelligence and did nothing, or (2) he never saw the intelligence.

Let’s consider the second option for a moment. While the Russian bounties intel only reached low levels at the NSC because it was disputed and uncorroborated, a former Pentagon official confirmed that detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of ISIS was included in Obama’s P**********l Daily Briefings. The intelligence on the rise of ISIS was also described as “highly accurate” and “actionable.”

According to Rice, any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president with unverified intel of such a serious nature, and would “not have waited until we had absolute certainty.” It stands to reason that any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president about “highly accurate” and “actionable” intelligence to make sure the president had been briefed on it. Yet, Obama once claimed that the White House was caught off guard about the rise of ISIS.

To channel Susan Rice: This raises myriad questions. If Obama was informed about intelligence about the rise of ISIS, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Were his top advisors utterly incompetent? Were they too scared to deliver bad news to Obama, particularly about the Middle East? Was Obama running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Obama’s national security advisor at the time of the rise of ISIS was Susan Rice’s predecessor, Tom Donilon, who served in that position from October 8, 2010 to July 1, 2013. By Susan Rice’s own explanation, Donilon would have “walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president” on the intelligence. So, even if Obama failed on numerous occasions to read his PDBs on the rise of ISIS, he had to know about it, because he would have been told directly by his national security advisor.

So, according to Susan Rice, Obama knew about the rise of ISIS and did nothing about it. How many Americans and U.S. troops were k**led by ISIS or ISIS-inspired individuals because Obama failed to act? Too many.

By Susan Rice’s own words, Barack Obama is guilty of dereliction of duty.

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Jul 2, 2020 22:06:17   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Parky60 wrote:
Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (Not Trump) Is Guilty of Dereliction of Duty
Matt Margolis ~ July 02, 2020
Despite the fact that the allegation that Trump ignored intelligence on alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops has been debunked, the left is still clinging to the story, hoping it will be their next Trump/Russia collusion h**x. Barack Obama’s former national security adviser Susan Rice recently penned an op-ed in the New York Times, essentially disputing the claims that Trump wasn’t aware of the intelligence. “As a former national security adviser, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no one told Mr. Trump about this intelligence,” she claimed.

Here’s what should have happened. Had I, as national security adviser, received even “raw” reporting that Russia was paying to k**l U.S. service members, I would have walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president.

Contrary to the spin-masters in the White House today, I would not have waited until we had absolute certainty. I would have said, “Mr. President, I want to make sure you are aware that we have troubling reporting that Russia is paying the Taliban to k**l our forces in Afghanistan. I will work with the intelligence community to ensure the information is solid. In the meantime, I will convene the national security team to get you some options for how to respond to this apparent major escalation in Russia’s hostile actions.”

If later the president decided, as Mr. Trump did, that he wanted to talk with President Vladimir Putin of Russia at least six times over the next several weeks and invite him to join the Group of 7 summit over the objections of our allies, I would have thrown a red f**g: “Mr. President, I want to remind you that we believe the Russians are k*****g American soldiers. This is not the time to hand Putin an olive branch. It’s the time to punish him.”

This is what would have happened in any prior administration of either political party.


According to Rice, “That it apparently did not is deeply troubling and raises myriad questions.”

If Mr. Trump was told about Russian actions, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Are his top advisers utterly incompetent? Are they too scared to deliver bad news to Mr. Trump, particularly about Russia? Is Mr. Trump running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Rice’s argument is belied by the facts. The intelligence wasn’t simply “raw” or “unverified.” An “intelligence official with direct knowledge” told Catherine Herridge of CBS News that intel on alleged Russian bounties only reached “low levels” of the NSC but “did not go further” because it was deemed “uncorroborated” and because of “dissent” within the intelligence community regarding its accuracy. The Department of Defense also said there was no corroborating evidence for the Russian bounties claim. An NSC official also told Herridge that a review of Trump’s P**********l Daily Briefings showed that the intelligence assessment about the Russian bounties was not included in them. If the intelligence was disputed and uncorroborated, it seems very unlikely that anyone would have made a point to inform Trump about this intelligence. If presidents were made aware of every bit of disputed and uncorroborated intelligence there was, one can only imagine how little time there would be for anything else.

Nevertheless, Rice concludes that Trump is guilty of dereliction of duty.

What must we conclude from all this? At best, our commander in chief is utterly derelict in his duties, presiding over a dangerously dysfunctional national security process that is putting our country and those who wear its uniform at great risk. At worst, the White House is being run by liars and wimps catering to a tyrannical president who is actively advancing our arch adversary’s nefarious interests.

What Susan Rice didn’t realize when she wrote this op-ed, is that she just made the most compelling case that Barack Obama, her former boss, is the one who is guilty of dereliction of duty.

Applying the Susan Rice standard to Barack Obama
While the evidence is clear that President Trump didn’t ignore the uncorroborated and disputed intelligence about alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops, we do know that President Obama was repeatedly briefed about the rise of ISIS, but failed to respond to this intelligence.

Is it possible Obama didn’t see the intel? It’s theoretically possible he missed multiple warnings. According to a former aide in the Obama administration, Obama got all his intelligence briefings in writing. “And it’s well-understood why,” explained the aide. “No one sits and watches him read them, and no one can come back later and tell Congress in a closed session that ‘I told the president this specific thing was likely to happen.'”

There are two possible explanations: (1) Obama saw the intelligence and did nothing, or (2) he never saw the intelligence.

Let’s consider the second option for a moment. While the Russian bounties intel only reached low levels at the NSC because it was disputed and uncorroborated, a former Pentagon official confirmed that detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of ISIS was included in Obama’s P**********l Daily Briefings. The intelligence on the rise of ISIS was also described as “highly accurate” and “actionable.”

According to Rice, any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president with unverified intel of such a serious nature, and would “not have waited until we had absolute certainty.” It stands to reason that any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president about “highly accurate” and “actionable” intelligence to make sure the president had been briefed on it. Yet, Obama once claimed that the White House was caught off guard about the rise of ISIS.

To channel Susan Rice: This raises myriad questions. If Obama was informed about intelligence about the rise of ISIS, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Were his top advisors utterly incompetent? Were they too scared to deliver bad news to Obama, particularly about the Middle East? Was Obama running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Obama’s national security advisor at the time of the rise of ISIS was Susan Rice’s predecessor, Tom Donilon, who served in that position from October 8, 2010 to July 1, 2013. By Susan Rice’s own explanation, Donilon would have “walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president” on the intelligence. So, even if Obama failed on numerous occasions to read his PDBs on the rise of ISIS, he had to know about it, because he would have been told directly by his national security advisor.

So, according to Susan Rice, Obama knew about the rise of ISIS and did nothing about it. How many Americans and U.S. troops were k**led by ISIS or ISIS-inspired individuals because Obama failed to act? Too many.

By Susan Rice’s own words, Barack Obama is guilty of dereliction of duty.
b Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (No... (show quote)




Perfect logic!!

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Jul 3, 2020 02:27:26   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Parky60 wrote:
Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (Not Trump) Is Guilty of Dereliction of Duty
Matt Margolis ~ July 02, 2020
Despite the fact that the allegation that Trump ignored intelligence on alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops has been debunked, the left is still clinging to the story, hoping it will be their next Trump/Russia collusion h**x. Barack Obama’s former national security adviser Susan Rice recently penned an op-ed in the New York Times, essentially disputing the claims that Trump wasn’t aware of the intelligence. “As a former national security adviser, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no one told Mr. Trump about this intelligence,” she claimed.

Here’s what should have happened. Had I, as national security adviser, received even “raw” reporting that Russia was paying to k**l U.S. service members, I would have walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president.

Contrary to the spin-masters in the White House today, I would not have waited until we had absolute certainty. I would have said, “Mr. President, I want to make sure you are aware that we have troubling reporting that Russia is paying the Taliban to k**l our forces in Afghanistan. I will work with the intelligence community to ensure the information is solid. In the meantime, I will convene the national security team to get you some options for how to respond to this apparent major escalation in Russia’s hostile actions.”

If later the president decided, as Mr. Trump did, that he wanted to talk with President Vladimir Putin of Russia at least six times over the next several weeks and invite him to join the Group of 7 summit over the objections of our allies, I would have thrown a red f**g: “Mr. President, I want to remind you that we believe the Russians are k*****g American soldiers. This is not the time to hand Putin an olive branch. It’s the time to punish him.”

This is what would have happened in any prior administration of either political party.


According to Rice, “That it apparently did not is deeply troubling and raises myriad questions.”

If Mr. Trump was told about Russian actions, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Are his top advisers utterly incompetent? Are they too scared to deliver bad news to Mr. Trump, particularly about Russia? Is Mr. Trump running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Rice’s argument is belied by the facts. The intelligence wasn’t simply “raw” or “unverified.” An “intelligence official with direct knowledge” told Catherine Herridge of CBS News that intel on alleged Russian bounties only reached “low levels” of the NSC but “did not go further” because it was deemed “uncorroborated” and because of “dissent” within the intelligence community regarding its accuracy. The Department of Defense also said there was no corroborating evidence for the Russian bounties claim. An NSC official also told Herridge that a review of Trump’s P**********l Daily Briefings showed that the intelligence assessment about the Russian bounties was not included in them. If the intelligence was disputed and uncorroborated, it seems very unlikely that anyone would have made a point to inform Trump about this intelligence. If presidents were made aware of every bit of disputed and uncorroborated intelligence there was, one can only imagine how little time there would be for anything else.

Nevertheless, Rice concludes that Trump is guilty of dereliction of duty.

What must we conclude from all this? At best, our commander in chief is utterly derelict in his duties, presiding over a dangerously dysfunctional national security process that is putting our country and those who wear its uniform at great risk. At worst, the White House is being run by liars and wimps catering to a tyrannical president who is actively advancing our arch adversary’s nefarious interests.

What Susan Rice didn’t realize when she wrote this op-ed, is that she just made the most compelling case that Barack Obama, her former boss, is the one who is guilty of dereliction of duty.

Applying the Susan Rice standard to Barack Obama
While the evidence is clear that President Trump didn’t ignore the uncorroborated and disputed intelligence about alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops, we do know that President Obama was repeatedly briefed about the rise of ISIS, but failed to respond to this intelligence.

Is it possible Obama didn’t see the intel? It’s theoretically possible he missed multiple warnings. According to a former aide in the Obama administration, Obama got all his intelligence briefings in writing. “And it’s well-understood why,” explained the aide. “No one sits and watches him read them, and no one can come back later and tell Congress in a closed session that ‘I told the president this specific thing was likely to happen.'”

There are two possible explanations: (1) Obama saw the intelligence and did nothing, or (2) he never saw the intelligence.

Let’s consider the second option for a moment. While the Russian bounties intel only reached low levels at the NSC because it was disputed and uncorroborated, a former Pentagon official confirmed that detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of ISIS was included in Obama’s P**********l Daily Briefings. The intelligence on the rise of ISIS was also described as “highly accurate” and “actionable.”

According to Rice, any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president with unverified intel of such a serious nature, and would “not have waited until we had absolute certainty.” It stands to reason that any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president about “highly accurate” and “actionable” intelligence to make sure the president had been briefed on it. Yet, Obama once claimed that the White House was caught off guard about the rise of ISIS.

To channel Susan Rice: This raises myriad questions. If Obama was informed about intelligence about the rise of ISIS, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Were his top advisors utterly incompetent? Were they too scared to deliver bad news to Obama, particularly about the Middle East? Was Obama running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Obama’s national security advisor at the time of the rise of ISIS was Susan Rice’s predecessor, Tom Donilon, who served in that position from October 8, 2010 to July 1, 2013. By Susan Rice’s own explanation, Donilon would have “walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president” on the intelligence. So, even if Obama failed on numerous occasions to read his PDBs on the rise of ISIS, he had to know about it, because he would have been told directly by his national security advisor.

So, according to Susan Rice, Obama knew about the rise of ISIS and did nothing about it. How many Americans and U.S. troops were k**led by ISIS or ISIS-inspired individuals because Obama failed to act? Too many.

By Susan Rice’s own words, Barack Obama is guilty of dereliction of duty.
b Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (No... (show quote)


Obama may have been guilty of dereliction but you missed the reading on Rice she said "I would have" it didn't mean that it was a normal procedure that any one in that position who have just walked in and made the statement.

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Jul 3, 2020 05:07:46   #
eden
 
Parky60 wrote:
Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (Not Trump) Is Guilty of Dereliction of Duty
Matt Margolis ~ July 02, 2020
Despite the fact that the allegation that Trump ignored intelligence on alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops has been debunked, the left is still clinging to the story, hoping it will be their next Trump/Russia collusion h**x. Barack Obama’s former national security adviser Susan Rice recently penned an op-ed in the New York Times, essentially disputing the claims that Trump wasn’t aware of the intelligence. “As a former national security adviser, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no one told Mr. Trump about this intelligence,” she claimed.

Here’s what should have happened. Had I, as national security adviser, received even “raw” reporting that Russia was paying to k**l U.S. service members, I would have walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president.

Contrary to the spin-masters in the White House today, I would not have waited until we had absolute certainty. I would have said, “Mr. President, I want to make sure you are aware that we have troubling reporting that Russia is paying the Taliban to k**l our forces in Afghanistan. I will work with the intelligence community to ensure the information is solid. In the meantime, I will convene the national security team to get you some options for how to respond to this apparent major escalation in Russia’s hostile actions.”

If later the president decided, as Mr. Trump did, that he wanted to talk with President Vladimir Putin of Russia at least six times over the next several weeks and invite him to join the Group of 7 summit over the objections of our allies, I would have thrown a red f**g: “Mr. President, I want to remind you that we believe the Russians are k*****g American soldiers. This is not the time to hand Putin an olive branch. It’s the time to punish him.”

This is what would have happened in any prior administration of either political party.


According to Rice, “That it apparently did not is deeply troubling and raises myriad questions.”

If Mr. Trump was told about Russian actions, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Are his top advisers utterly incompetent? Are they too scared to deliver bad news to Mr. Trump, particularly about Russia? Is Mr. Trump running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Rice’s argument is belied by the facts. The intelligence wasn’t simply “raw” or “unverified.” An “intelligence official with direct knowledge” told Catherine Herridge of CBS News that intel on alleged Russian bounties only reached “low levels” of the NSC but “did not go further” because it was deemed “uncorroborated” and because of “dissent” within the intelligence community regarding its accuracy. The Department of Defense also said there was no corroborating evidence for the Russian bounties claim. An NSC official also told Herridge that a review of Trump’s P**********l Daily Briefings showed that the intelligence assessment about the Russian bounties was not included in them. If the intelligence was disputed and uncorroborated, it seems very unlikely that anyone would have made a point to inform Trump about this intelligence. If presidents were made aware of every bit of disputed and uncorroborated intelligence there was, one can only imagine how little time there would be for anything else.

Nevertheless, Rice concludes that Trump is guilty of dereliction of duty.

What must we conclude from all this? At best, our commander in chief is utterly derelict in his duties, presiding over a dangerously dysfunctional national security process that is putting our country and those who wear its uniform at great risk. At worst, the White House is being run by liars and wimps catering to a tyrannical president who is actively advancing our arch adversary’s nefarious interests.

What Susan Rice didn’t realize when she wrote this op-ed, is that she just made the most compelling case that Barack Obama, her former boss, is the one who is guilty of dereliction of duty.

Applying the Susan Rice standard to Barack Obama
While the evidence is clear that President Trump didn’t ignore the uncorroborated and disputed intelligence about alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops, we do know that President Obama was repeatedly briefed about the rise of ISIS, but failed to respond to this intelligence.

Is it possible Obama didn’t see the intel? It’s theoretically possible he missed multiple warnings. According to a former aide in the Obama administration, Obama got all his intelligence briefings in writing. “And it’s well-understood why,” explained the aide. “No one sits and watches him read them, and no one can come back later and tell Congress in a closed session that ‘I told the president this specific thing was likely to happen.'”

There are two possible explanations: (1) Obama saw the intelligence and did nothing, or (2) he never saw the intelligence.

Let’s consider the second option for a moment. While the Russian bounties intel only reached low levels at the NSC because it was disputed and uncorroborated, a former Pentagon official confirmed that detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of ISIS was included in Obama’s P**********l Daily Briefings. The intelligence on the rise of ISIS was also described as “highly accurate” and “actionable.”

According to Rice, any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president with unverified intel of such a serious nature, and would “not have waited until we had absolute certainty.” It stands to reason that any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president about “highly accurate” and “actionable” intelligence to make sure the president had been briefed on it. Yet, Obama once claimed that the White House was caught off guard about the rise of ISIS.

To channel Susan Rice: This raises myriad questions. If Obama was informed about intelligence about the rise of ISIS, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Were his top advisors utterly incompetent? Were they too scared to deliver bad news to Obama, particularly about the Middle East? Was Obama running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Obama’s national security advisor at the time of the rise of ISIS was Susan Rice’s predecessor, Tom Donilon, who served in that position from October 8, 2010 to July 1, 2013. By Susan Rice’s own explanation, Donilon would have “walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president” on the intelligence. So, even if Obama failed on numerous occasions to read his PDBs on the rise of ISIS, he had to know about it, because he would have been told directly by his national security advisor.

So, according to Susan Rice, Obama knew about the rise of ISIS and did nothing about it. How many Americans and U.S. troops were k**led by ISIS or ISIS-inspired individuals because Obama failed to act? Too many.

By Susan Rice’s own words, Barack Obama is guilty of dereliction of duty.
b Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (No... (show quote)



An impressive piece of flim flammery and
contorted logic to distract attention away from the obvious reality that Trump has once again screwed the proverbial pooch. If he wasn’t briefed on this matter it was probably because he is judged by his handlers to be incapable of responding adequately. If he WAS briefed then his perfidy will once again be front and center and the Trumptannic will take on more water as she settles in at the bows. Either way this is a net loss for Captain Trump.

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Jul 3, 2020 15:35:18   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
eden wrote:
An impressive piece of flim flammery and
contorted logic to distract attention away from the obvious reality that Trump has once again screwed the proverbial pooch. If he wasn’t briefed on this matter it was probably because he is judged by his handlers to be incapable of responding adequately. If he WAS briefed then his perfidy will once again be front and center and the Trumptannic will take on more water as she settles in at the bows. Either way this is a net loss for Captain Trump.



Ahemmm, now hear this - - BULL S**T! 😤😜 Goober. 🤓

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Jul 3, 2020 16:11:33   #
eden
 
SGM B wrote:
Ahemmm, now hear this - - BULL S**T! 😤😜 Goober. 🤓


Keep saying this if it gives you comfort.😊

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Jul 3, 2020 16:48:11   #
WEBCO
 
eden wrote:
An impressive piece of flim flammery and
contorted logic to distract attention away from the obvious reality that Trump has once again screwed the proverbial pooch. If he wasn’t briefed on this matter it was probably because he is judged by his handlers to be incapable of responding adequately. If he WAS briefed then his perfidy will once again be front and center and the Trumptannic will take on more water as she settles in at the bows. Either way this is a net loss for Captain Trump.


So the NSC and DOD have both said it's not true, but the NYT says that it is true.

I know who I believe...you just keep on believing that bastion of t***h called the NYTs. After all they did receive pulitzer prizes for their top notch coverage of Russian collusion.

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Jul 3, 2020 17:25:02   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Parky60 wrote:
Susan Rice Accidentally Proves Barack Obama (Not Trump) Is Guilty of Dereliction of Duty
Matt Margolis ~ July 02, 2020
Despite the fact that the allegation that Trump ignored intelligence on alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops has been debunked, the left is still clinging to the story, hoping it will be their next Trump/Russia collusion h**x. Barack Obama’s former national security adviser Susan Rice recently penned an op-ed in the New York Times, essentially disputing the claims that Trump wasn’t aware of the intelligence. “As a former national security adviser, I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no one told Mr. Trump about this intelligence,” she claimed.

Here’s what should have happened. Had I, as national security adviser, received even “raw” reporting that Russia was paying to k**l U.S. service members, I would have walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president.

Contrary to the spin-masters in the White House today, I would not have waited until we had absolute certainty. I would have said, “Mr. President, I want to make sure you are aware that we have troubling reporting that Russia is paying the Taliban to k**l our forces in Afghanistan. I will work with the intelligence community to ensure the information is solid. In the meantime, I will convene the national security team to get you some options for how to respond to this apparent major escalation in Russia’s hostile actions.”

If later the president decided, as Mr. Trump did, that he wanted to talk with President Vladimir Putin of Russia at least six times over the next several weeks and invite him to join the Group of 7 summit over the objections of our allies, I would have thrown a red f**g: “Mr. President, I want to remind you that we believe the Russians are k*****g American soldiers. This is not the time to hand Putin an olive branch. It’s the time to punish him.”

This is what would have happened in any prior administration of either political party.


According to Rice, “That it apparently did not is deeply troubling and raises myriad questions.”

If Mr. Trump was told about Russian actions, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Are his top advisers utterly incompetent? Are they too scared to deliver bad news to Mr. Trump, particularly about Russia? Is Mr. Trump running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Rice’s argument is belied by the facts. The intelligence wasn’t simply “raw” or “unverified.” An “intelligence official with direct knowledge” told Catherine Herridge of CBS News that intel on alleged Russian bounties only reached “low levels” of the NSC but “did not go further” because it was deemed “uncorroborated” and because of “dissent” within the intelligence community regarding its accuracy. The Department of Defense also said there was no corroborating evidence for the Russian bounties claim. An NSC official also told Herridge that a review of Trump’s P**********l Daily Briefings showed that the intelligence assessment about the Russian bounties was not included in them. If the intelligence was disputed and uncorroborated, it seems very unlikely that anyone would have made a point to inform Trump about this intelligence. If presidents were made aware of every bit of disputed and uncorroborated intelligence there was, one can only imagine how little time there would be for anything else.

Nevertheless, Rice concludes that Trump is guilty of dereliction of duty.

What must we conclude from all this? At best, our commander in chief is utterly derelict in his duties, presiding over a dangerously dysfunctional national security process that is putting our country and those who wear its uniform at great risk. At worst, the White House is being run by liars and wimps catering to a tyrannical president who is actively advancing our arch adversary’s nefarious interests.

What Susan Rice didn’t realize when she wrote this op-ed, is that she just made the most compelling case that Barack Obama, her former boss, is the one who is guilty of dereliction of duty.

Applying the Susan Rice standard to Barack Obama
While the evidence is clear that President Trump didn’t ignore the uncorroborated and disputed intelligence about alleged Russian bounties on U.S. troops, we do know that President Obama was repeatedly briefed about the rise of ISIS, but failed to respond to this intelligence.

Is it possible Obama didn’t see the intel? It’s theoretically possible he missed multiple warnings. According to a former aide in the Obama administration, Obama got all his intelligence briefings in writing. “And it’s well-understood why,” explained the aide. “No one sits and watches him read them, and no one can come back later and tell Congress in a closed session that ‘I told the president this specific thing was likely to happen.'”

There are two possible explanations: (1) Obama saw the intelligence and did nothing, or (2) he never saw the intelligence.

Let’s consider the second option for a moment. While the Russian bounties intel only reached low levels at the NSC because it was disputed and uncorroborated, a former Pentagon official confirmed that detailed and specific intelligence about the rise of ISIS was included in Obama’s P**********l Daily Briefings. The intelligence on the rise of ISIS was also described as “highly accurate” and “actionable.”

According to Rice, any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president with unverified intel of such a serious nature, and would “not have waited until we had absolute certainty.” It stands to reason that any national security advisor in a previous administration would have gone to the president about “highly accurate” and “actionable” intelligence to make sure the president had been briefed on it. Yet, Obama once claimed that the White House was caught off guard about the rise of ISIS.

To channel Susan Rice: This raises myriad questions. If Obama was informed about intelligence about the rise of ISIS, why did he not respond? If he was not told, why not? Were his top advisors utterly incompetent? Were they too scared to deliver bad news to Obama, particularly about the Middle East? Was Obama running a rogue foreign policy utterly divorced from U.S. national interests? If so, why?

Obama’s national security advisor at the time of the rise of ISIS was Susan Rice’s predecessor, Tom Donilon, who served in that position from October 8, 2010 to July 1, 2013. By Susan Rice’s own explanation, Donilon would have “walked straight into the Oval Office to brief the president” on the intelligence. So, even if Obama failed on numerous occasions to read his PDBs on the rise of ISIS, he had to know about it, because he would have been told directly by his national security advisor.

So, according to Susan Rice, Obama knew about the rise of ISIS and did nothing about it. How many Americans and U.S. troops were k**led by ISIS or ISIS-inspired individuals because Obama failed to act? Too many.

By Susan Rice’s own words, Barack Obama is guilty of dereliction of duty.
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As I said the rumors of Russia putting bounties on troops has been around since Bill Clinton days, I was one of those troops so it mattered to me. I never saw a Russian soldier though.

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Jul 3, 2020 17:27:08   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
SGM B wrote:
Ahemmm, now hear this - - BULL S**T! 😤😜 Goober. 🤓


Yep, just rumors. Another was Mao was on Vietnam once or twice, he was too smart. Evewry American would have been gunning for him.

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Jul 3, 2020 17:58:19   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
eden wrote:
Keep saying this if it gives you comfort.😊


Has nothing to do with comfort - just calling you out for what you are.😜

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Jul 3, 2020 18:01:17   #
Big Kahuna
 
eden wrote:
Keep saying this if it gives you comfort.😊


Eden, you have weeds in your Garden of Eden. I can see why you were kicked out of God's garden. Your lies are non-ending.

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Jul 3, 2020 19:23:19   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
As I said the rumors of Russia putting bounties on troops has been around since Bill Clinton days, I was one of those troops so it mattered to me. I never saw a Russian soldier though.


Plenty of Russian mercy, though. Mostly, they worked with me.

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Jul 4, 2020 05:15:17   #
eden
 
SGM B wrote:
Has nothing to do with comfort - just calling you out for what you are.😜


You don’t know me junior. Save your speculation for the stock market 😁.

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Jul 4, 2020 05:17:39   #
eden
 
drlarrygino wrote:
Eden, you have weeds in your Garden of Eden. I can see why you were kicked out of God's garden. Your lies are non-ending.


What Bible did you read?

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Jul 4, 2020 09:21:52   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
eden wrote:
You don’t know me junior. Save your speculation for the stock market 😁.


Who is junior?

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