dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

This from a friend.

THIS S**T HAS GOT TO STOP!! As a Smog Tech, Auto Tech, and Instructor I've had to go through a lot of OSHA and PPE training. I've been warning you since day one but you don't want to listen. In the meantime, what is happening under your poorly covered noses is worse than any v***s alive! READ.......... (and then Google it if you still want to believe your stupid media)🤬 I'm retired From Shell Oil Refinery in Roxana and was a school trained HAZMAT team member and this post is about as accurate as it gets. Enough of the Masks? I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped this nonsense BUT I wanna cover 3 things • N95 masks and P95 masks with exhale ports • surgical masks • filter or cloth masks Okay so upon further inspection OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations. If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick you can be sued. • N95 masks and ported P95: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from P95 (ported) masks are vented to breathe straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to. Conclusion: if you’re in Stewart’s and the guy with C***d has P95 mask his c***d breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Stewart’s (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out) • Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are clog these masks very quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with C***d and your mask traps it You become a walking v***s dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment” Cloth masks: today three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American f**g one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandana, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks health. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask. Ultimate Answer: Ported P95 blows the v***s into the air from a contaminated person and N95 holes are larger than the c****av***s and does not block particles that small. And most importantly, asymptomatic t***smission is not happening anyway. The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the v***s upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale. (Like a vacuum bag it only works one way) Cloth masks are WORSE than none. The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. *Occupational Safety & Health Administration sited. The top American organization for safety. They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it. If your mask gives you security wear it, just know it is a false sense of security. If stores stopped enforcing it no one would continue this nonsense. ============================== If work requires you to wear a mask, OSHA requires that your employer verifies you are receiving the minimum of 19.5% oxygen level by law! Are your oxygen levels being monitored while at work? Are you experiencing dizziness and headaches? This is a written law NOT a recommendation! I guarantee if employees started citing law and demanding their employers follow the law then the masks would go away!".

grace scott

I have a question. Is it correct, if I am wearing an N95 mask, you are not protected from me, but I am protected from you?

PeterS

And if the masks went away? We currently have a resurgence of C***D mostly in conservative states where they refuse to wear masks and to socially distance. So is this resurgence just a coincidence or is it a product of not wearing masks and socially distance?

This reminds me of when seatbelts first became mandated and everyone whined and complained about how they took away OUR freedom (cue Mel Gibson in a kilt)!!! Now we don't even think about them as we buckle up and go safely down the road. Add to that airbags, front and side, and if ever it was our design to die in a car wreck indeed our freedom has been taken away. The argument about masks is that they protect you from me and me from you. Do I buy it? Well, 23 conservative states with rising C***D cases tell me that it's true. Yes, that's only anecdotal but sometimes that's all we have to act on so until there is proof that masks don't work I'm going to wear mine and if you are a good neighbor I would hope that you would wear your mask too.

Auntie Dee

THANK YOU! This is the best explanation I have heard! If I am willing to take a personal risk & believe what this EXPERT is saying...how is it the right of any part of Government to take that away? We do not yet live in a totalitarian country, or do we?

JW

The only way to get rid of the v***s is to v******te, if that is ever a possibility, or get the thing and survive it. The longer we try to hide from it, the longer it will be with us. If a natural immunity is only temporary then this mask nonsense is guaranteeing it will be with us indefinitely. It will cause us to get it over and over again.

We have immune carriers among us. They will guarantee the bug sticks around until EVERYONE has been exposed to it. Do some basic research on how v***ses spread and the success of v******tion for v***s borne diseases.

JW

The CDC recommends the use of masks but does not require them. There is no government requirement to wear them. Private businesses can require you to wear them while in their facilities. There is a massive peer pressure campaign to get us to wear them.

billy a Loc: South Florida

Thanks, Tuck, for turning on the lights. I've been in the trades all my life, and safety classes and seminars stressed the limits of these masks.
I don't know what the Doctors wear in surgery, but they sure aren't the ones I wore when cutting concrete, which is mostly what I see the public wearing. And most of THOSE are poorly-fitted...

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Is that what happened to SARS and MERS????

We v******ted and/or achieved herd immunity???

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

No... Neither of you is 100% protected...

But both have greatly reduced chances of contacting the v***s...

Isn't it odd that all those Asian nations have handled it better than the West???

JW

Essentially, but there is a natural end to a v***s also, it can mutate and lose its infectious nature among humans, or it could succumb to environmental conditions but those situations are beyond human control.

My point was that the measures we have instituted are prolonging the problem.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Both of those v***ses were isolated and died out...

Which is what should have happened here...

China was criminally slow... Admittedly..

But this new attitude is going to result in many unnecessary deaths.

JW

You can't isolate a v***s when millions are already infected.

Dr. F***i admitted the problem when he said this fall could be worse with C19 plus the new seasonal flu.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Exactly...

The early days should have seen greater action...

Too late now

Tug484

Mines one with the vent, but I have a shield.
I may switch to it.
I'm confused too.

EN Submarine Qualified Loc: Wisconsin East coast

I sure as hell will take the word and expertise of a qualified expert instead of our resident BSers who only read and quote the f**e news they want to make their phony case for them.
Can any of you experts tell me how a loosely woven piece of cloth can prevent the spread of nano sized particles? Just about as brilliant as wearing a mask to prevent AIDS or malaria.
Better start accepting it is a s**m perpetrated on the population of this country.
Now real quick tell me how a ventilator makes the lungs accept more oxygen. Oh gee ,maybe the care facilities can charge more for the use of an non-effective ventilator. Whoda thunk!