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Jul 15, 2014 12:31:16   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
The traditional liberal is gone. The liberal that believed in the greatness of America, and actually wanted to have a 'liberal' reading of the bill of rights.

And progs can't be happy. If they were happy you wouldn't believe that they were destitute or victims, if they weren't destitute or victims they couldn't argue that they were entitled to other people's money.

Tasine wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I know that was tongue in cheek, but it does say it all. I've never met a happy Prog (I don't believe any liberals continue to exist).

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Jul 15, 2014 12:50:13   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Tasine wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I know that was tongue in cheek, but it does say it all. I've never met a happy Prog (I don't believe any liberals continue to exist).


Not in the truest sense of 'Liberal'.

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Jul 15, 2014 13:53:18   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Super Dave wrote:
I used to think that one of the most honest men in DC was Paul Wellstone. He was a socialist, and proud of it. The only time I know of that he broke his word was when he allowed the Dem leadership to talk him into running for more terms than he promised he would run for. To my knowledge he never spoke h**efully about his opponents, never questioned their motives, and never denied the t***h even when he found the facts inconvenient. He believed that socialism was better for Americans. He cared and wanted the best for America.

His death may have ended the times when there were honest liberals, and when there were liberals that cared for America.

Liberals said a woman's privacy was important, now they demand Hobby Lobby go into their employees bedrooms.

Liberals said they were Pro-Choice but now they say Americans must participate in a******ns and have no choice.

Liberals said that they wanted Americans to fund 'Piss Christ' because they loved the 1st amendment, now they are against people having political free speech, many even pushing an amendment to curtail the 1st amendment.

Liberals said they supported freedom of the press, and sit back gleefully and watch Obama's admin repeatedly target Fox News and actually start a prosecution on James Rosen for not kissing his royal feet.

Liberals know that Obama and Hillary both lied using 4 caskets as a backdrop, and all for political expediency. And they don't care.

Liberals know that the Obama admin used the IRS to target conservatives, specifically, by denying their rights and sending confidential information on conservative citizens to liberal h**e groups, and they don't care.

When Obama lied dozens of times about Obamacare, and millions of Americans lost their coverage, lost their doctors, and had to pay more for worse coverage, liberals don't care.

Liberals calling for amnesty see the disaster that has ensued, and don't care. They know that 1000's of children are raped, k**led, or sent into s***ery because of Obama's pen and his phone. And they don't care. It's so bad in these concentration camps that Obama bans the use of cell phones for fear someone may take a picture and show the world how badly Obama has failed. And liberals don't care.

Obama has been d******e while calling for unity, partisan while calling on Republicans to cross the isle. Dishonest while calling for integrity. And liberals don't care.

Liberals call for socialized medicine calling the VA proof of the greatness of socialized medicine, and when the t***h about the VA comes out, liberals feign some compassion, but don't bother to do anything to hold the admin accountable, because they just don't care.

Food stamp use is record high, incomes are down, full time work is down, inflation is up. And liberals don't care.

Liberals see the effects of the most liberal President, and the worst President in modern times. And they don't care.
I used to think that one of the most honest men in... (show quote)


Super Dave: "They seem to have two brain cells, one is lost and the other is out looking for it."

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Jul 15, 2014 14:10:33   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Worried for our children wrote:
Great post Tasine, and you're spot on about Zell Miller.....



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I had forgotten his comments. It is good to see them again.

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Jul 15, 2014 19:37:25   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
Super Dave wrote:
I used to think that one of the most honest men in DC was Paul Wellstone. He was a socialist, and proud of it. The only time I know of that he broke his word was when he allowed the Dem leadership to talk him into running for more terms than he promised he would run for. To my knowledge he never spoke h**efully about his opponents, never questioned their motives, and never denied the t***h even when he found the facts inconvenient. He believed that socialism was better for Americans. He cared and wanted the best for America.

His death may have ended the times when there were honest liberals, and when there were liberals that cared for America.

Liberals said a woman's privacy was important, now they demand Hobby Lobby go into their employees bedrooms.

Liberals said they were Pro-Choice but now they say Americans must participate in a******ns and have no choice.

Liberals said that they wanted Americans to fund 'Piss Christ' because they loved the 1st amendment, now they are against people having political free speech, many even pushing an amendment to curtail the 1st amendment.

Liberals said they supported freedom of the press, and sit back gleefully and watch Obama's admin repeatedly target Fox News and actually start a prosecution on James Rosen for not kissing his royal feet.

Liberals know that Obama and Hillary both lied using 4 caskets as a backdrop, and all for political expediency. And they don't care.

Liberals know that the Obama admin used the IRS to target conservatives, specifically, by denying their rights and sending confidential information on conservative citizens to liberal h**e groups, and they don't care.

When Obama lied dozens of times about Obamacare, and millions of Americans lost their coverage, lost their doctors, and had to pay more for worse coverage, liberals don't care.

Liberals calling for amnesty see the disaster that has ensued, and don't care. They know that 1000's of children are raped, k**led, or sent into s***ery because of Obama's pen and his phone. And they don't care. It's so bad in these concentration camps that Obama bans the use of cell phones for fear someone may take a picture and show the world how badly Obama has failed. And liberals don't care.

Obama has been d******e while calling for unity, partisan while calling on Republicans to cross the isle. Dishonest while calling for integrity. And liberals don't care.

Liberals call for socialized medicine calling the VA proof of the greatness of socialized medicine, and when the t***h about the VA comes out, liberals feign some compassion, but don't bother to do anything to hold the admin accountable, because they just don't care.

Food stamp use is record high, incomes are down, full time work is down, inflation is up. And liberals don't care.

Liberals see the effects of the most liberal President, and the worst President in modern times. And they don't care.
I used to think that one of the most honest men in... (show quote)

A good post and i don't think you missed anything---it's a real pity and happens to be true!!!!!!!
:-( :-(

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Jul 15, 2014 21:42:05   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
greyfox wrote:
A good post and i don't think you missed anything---it's a real pity and happens to be true!!!!!!!
:-( :-(


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jul 16, 2014 17:24:19   #
jointerjohn
 
Tasine wrote:
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I came to the conclusion some years back that liberals no longer exist. I think the last great one was Patrick Moynihan. He was honest, pleasant, as unbiased as any person can be re his politics. The nation lost a fine man when he died. The Democrats ran off the best one they had at the time - Zell Miller, conservative Democrat. The nation lost a fine politician when he retired.

I try to remember not to label any current person "liberal" since there seem to be none. I call them what they really are: either Democrats, Progressives, or Socialists, with a few C*******ts in the mix. The Democrat Party has done the l*****t "thing" - it has EVOLVED to the lowest decadent level a political party can become.

I think the time has come for this once fine nation to operate without federal officials ordering us about like the robots they see us as. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I can make as good a decision about what to eat as can anyone in government. I can make a better decision about my grandchildrens' education than the government can. I can balance my checkbook. The government cannot. The government has bankrupted us with NONE OF US APPROVING of such. Our form of government has been to easy to take by c**p as we are experiencing at the moment. I believe it is falling apart and once it does, I sincerely hope Americans will do something smart: do NOT ever again put politicians in charge of everything we do, eat, say, believe, think, etc.
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How many more national e******ns will you have to lose before you figure out the 1950s aren't coming back? There are still plenty of we liberals out here, in fact, more coming of age every day. Now that I think about it, that's probably what has you so upset. And please, don't even try that nonsense of claiming that our side is trying to dictate to you what to believe. The current American right wing holds the persons who would turn us into a theocracy. Sorry, have seen that at work in the Middle East and want no part of it.

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Jul 16, 2014 18:37:14   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
jointerjohn wrote:
How many more national e******ns will you have to lose before you figure out the 1950s aren't coming back? There are still plenty of we liberals out here, in fact, more coming of age every day. Now that I think about it, that's probably what has you so upset. And please, don't even try that nonsense of claiming that our side is trying to dictate to you what to believe. The current American right wing holds the persons who would turn us into a theocracy. Sorry, have seen that at work in the Middle East and want no part of it.
How many more national e******ns will you have to ... (show quote)

How very stupid some on the left are. You have lived amongst what America is destined to become with your philosophy.

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Jul 16, 2014 19:44:57   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
Liberals said a woman's privacy was important, now they demand Hobby Lobby go into their employees bedrooms

Huh? How is insurance coverage that covers all forms of contraception--going into their employees bed rooms. HL has to go no place--simply offer the same coverage as they did prior to Obamacare...

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Liberals said they were Pro-Choice but now they say Americans must participate in a******ns and have no choice.
Having the option to take any form of birth control you want doesn't mean you are being forced to have an a******n. Do what the hell you want just stop standing in the way of others doing the same...

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Liberals said that they wanted Americans to fund 'Piss Christ' because they loved the 1st amendment, now they are against people having political free speech, many even pushing an amendment to curtail the 1st amendment.
Everyone having the same dollar amount of free speech doesn't curtail anyone. It upholds the first instead of allowing a few to destroy it...

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Liberals said they supported freedom of the press, and sit back gleefully and watch Obama's admin repeatedly target Fox News and actually start a prosecution on James Rosen for not kissing his royal feet.
Fox isn't a news organization. nuff said...

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s know that Obama and Hillary both lied using 4 caskets as a backdrop, and all for political expediency. And they don't care.
Because it changes nothing. Lying didn't cause four caskets to be there and since the stream of bodies coming home under Bush didn't bother conservatives I think it is safe to say the only concern here by the right is one of political expediency and nothing more...

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Liberals know that the Obama admin used the IRS to target conservatives, specifically, by denying their rights and sending confidential information on conservative citizens to liberal h**e groups, and they don't care.
There is no right to evade taxes. If conservatives hadn't been trying to do that there wouldn't have been anything to target...

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When Obama lied dozens of times about Obamacare, and millions of Americans lost their coverage, lost their doctors, and had to pay more for worse coverage, liberals don't care.
Actually, it was for better coverage not worse. The reason for the drop in insurance was because the insurance didn't meet the minimum required under the new law. As for any change in doctors that was the call of the insurance company not Obamacare. You do want insurance companies to control which doctors are under their coverage don't you? Anything else would be c*******m wouldn't it!

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Liberals calling for amnesty see the disaster that has ensued, and don't care. They know that 1000's of children are raped, k**led, or sent into s***ery because of Obama's pen and his phone. And they don't care. It's so bad in these concentration camps that Obama bans the use of cell phones for fear someone may take a picture and show the world how badly Obama has failed. And liberals don't care.
We aren't the ones sending armed m*****a to 'deal' with them either. Before claiming liberals don't care be sure that you do else you look like a hypocrite and nothing more...

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Liberals call for socialized medicine calling the VA proof of the greatness of socialized medicine, and when the t***h about the VA comes out, liberals feign some compassion, but don't bother to do anything to hold the admin accountable, because they just don't care.
The VA is under funded and always has been. The fact that neither liberals nor conservatives give a fu#k about veterans after they return isn't an indictment of socialized medicine but our own individual character as a nation. Medicare and Medicaid work just fine, there is no reason for Obamacare not to do the same...

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Food stamp use is record high, incomes are down, full time work is down, inflation is up. And liberals don't care.
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs programs, or trying to destroy unions and trying to stop increases to minimum wage and we sure as hell weren't the ones jumping up and down with glee when shutting down the government! Conservative stand in front of every attempt to create jobs and put upwards pressure on income so don't sit there and say "liberals don't care" when we are the only ones who do!

And that's enough. The logic here is like that of a third grader. No, I take that back--third graders have a better grasp of logic...

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Jul 16, 2014 19:49:29   #
PeterS
 
Tasine wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I know that was tongue in cheek, but it does say it all. I've never met a happy Prog (I don't believe any liberals continue to exist).

I'm quite happy and believe me--I continue to exist!

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Jul 16, 2014 19:58:09   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
PeterS wrote:
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs programs, or trying to destroy unions and trying to stop increases to minimum wage and we sure as hell weren't the ones jumping up and down with glee when shutting down the government! Conservative stand in front of every attempt to create jobs and put upwards pressure on income so don't sit there and say "liberals don't care" when we are the only ones who do!

And that's enough. The logic here is like that of a third grader. No, I take that back--third graders have a better grasp of logic...
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs progr... (show quote)


Quote your logic is all over: taking contraceptives will not necessarly cause a******ns----and as far as the caskets Bush had to see come home---the figure pales compared to 58,000+ that Kennedy and Johnson saw!!

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Jul 16, 2014 21:23:34   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
PeterS wrote:
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs programs, or trying to destroy unions and trying to stop increases to minimum wage and we sure as hell weren't the ones jumping up and down with glee when shutting down the government! Conservative stand in front of every attempt to create jobs and put upwards pressure on income so don't sit there and say "liberals don't care" when we are the only ones who do!

And that's enough. The logic here is like that of a third grader. No, I take that back--third graders have a better grasp of logic...
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs progr... (show quote)

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Double damned dumb!!! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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Jul 16, 2014 22:01:31   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
PeterS wrote:
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs programs, or trying to destroy unions and trying to stop increases to minimum wage and we sure as hell weren't the ones jumping up and down with glee when shutting down the government! Conservative stand in front of every attempt to create jobs and put upwards pressure on income so don't sit there and say "liberals don't care" when we are the only ones who do!

And that's enough. The logic here is like that of a third grader. No, I take that back--third graders have a better grasp of logic...
We aren't the ones standing in front of jobs progr... (show quote)


PeterS: After that astounding rant ...it seems like you have been working with glue too much!

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Jul 17, 2014 11:48:08   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
Tasine wrote:
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Double damned dumb!!! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


Harry Reid has about 30 job bills on his desk which he will not bring up for a v**e---all are Republican bills!!! :evil:

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Jul 17, 2014 11:55:05   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
That is true. Obama "evolved" in regards to homosexual 'marriage'.


Actually, Obama revolved - he was for it, then against it, and then said he "evolved" an came for it. The whole thing is little more than further evidence at the depth of how he deceives.

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