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S******c R****m ? ??I don't think so . ..
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Jun 19, 2020 16:25:03   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Do we have r****m ? Unfortunately yes .... But do we have s******c r****m ? I personally don't think so!! More and more minorities are v**ed into high office positions .....We had first black President in US history ......A lot of Governors and Mayors are B****s . ....A lot of Congress men and women are minorities . .. So please folks , let's be honest ! ! R****m Yes!! Systemic R****m....No!!! We came a long way from 1960's!! We still have ways to go,but we have made HUUUUUUUUGE progress !!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minority_governors_and_lieutenant_governors_in_the_United_States

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Jun 19, 2020 17:48:20   #
marinevet73
 
proud republican wrote:
Do we have r****m ? Unfortunately yes .... But do we have s******c r****m ? I personally don't think so!! More and more minorities are v**ed into high office positions .....We had first black President in US history ......A lot of Governors and Mayors are B****s . ....A lot of Congress men and women are minorities . .. So please folks , let's be honest ! ! R****m Yes!! Systemic R****m....No!!! We came a long way from 1960's!! We still have ways to go,but we have made HUUUUUUUUGE progress !!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minority_governors_and_lieutenant_governors_in_the_United_States
Do we have r****m ? Unfortunately yes .... But... (show quote)


Let me make sure I understand your post. A white lady is saying that since she has never experienced systemic bias, it must not exist. You know, that may be the exact proof that systemic bias exists.

Might I suggest you go up to a black person and ask them if they have ever experienced bias, or r****m. Then listen very carefully. A bunch of white people sitting around a table discussing that there is no systemic bias proves there is systemic bias.

Go listen to other people outside of your own race and listen to what they have to say. That maybe outside of your comfort zone, but that is the only way you will know about it.

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Jun 19, 2020 17:57:30   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
Do we have r****m ? Unfortunately yes .... But do we have s******c r****m ? I personally don't think so!! More and more minorities are v**ed into high office positions .....We had first black President in US history ......A lot of Governors and Mayors are B****s . ....A lot of Congress men and women are minorities . .. So please folks , let's be honest ! ! R****m Yes!! Systemic R****m....No!!! We came a long way from 1960's!! We still have ways to go,but we have made HUUUUUUUUGE progress !!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minority_governors_and_lieutenant_governors_in_the_United_States
Do we have r****m ? Unfortunately yes .... But... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jun 19, 2020 18:42:10   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
marinevet73 wrote:
Let me make sure I understand your post. A white lady is saying that since she has never experienced systemic bias, it must not exist. You know, that may be the exact proof that systemic bias exists.

Might I suggest you go up to a black person and ask them if they have ever experienced bias, or r****m. Then listen very carefully. A bunch of white people sitting around a table discussing that there is no systemic bias proves there is systemic bias.

Go listen to other people outside of your own race and listen to what they have to say. That maybe outside of your comfort zone, but that is the only way you will know about it.
Let me make sure I understand your post. A white ... (show quote)


Let me tell you , sir!! Just because I'm white,doesn't mean I don't know what bias is . .. I'm Jewish and being from Russia I know very well what anti Semitism is !! It's no different than being called N names . ... I experienced this every single day of my childhood . .. Doesn't mean that all White people are like that... I overcame that and black people are overcoming r****m....You didn't read the part where I said that r****m DOES exist,I just don't think it exists the way it was in 1960's I believe we came a long way from these terrible times!! That's all I am saying!

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Jun 19, 2020 18:46:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Let me tell you , sir!! Just because I'm white,doesn't mean I don't know what bias is . .. I'm Jewish and being from Russia I know very well what anti Semitism is !! It's no different than being called N names . ... I experienced this every single day of my childhood . .. Doesn't mean that all White people are like that... I overcame that and black people are overcoming r****m....You didn't read the part where I said that r****m DOES exist,I just don't think it exists the way it was in 1960's I believe we came a long way from these terrible times!! That's all I am saying!
Let me tell you , sir!! Just because I'm white,d... (show quote)


And saying it well

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Jun 19, 2020 18:48:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And saying it well


Thanks,Kyle !!!

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Jun 19, 2020 18:50:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
marinevet73 wrote:
Let me make sure I understand your post. A white lady is saying that since she has never experienced systemic bias, it must not exist. You know, that may be the exact proof that systemic bias exists.

Might I suggest you go up to a black person and ask them if they have ever experienced bias, or r****m. Then listen very carefully. A bunch of white people sitting around a table discussing that there is no systemic bias proves there is systemic bias.

Go listen to other people outside of your own race and listen to what they have to say. That maybe outside of your comfort zone, but that is the only way you will know about it.
Let me make sure I understand your post. A white ... (show quote)


Why do you assume she has no friends outside her own race??

My friends from Africa are comfounded that American b****s are crying about bias... Bias exists... But better to be black in America than black in Africa... They of course don't view themselves as victims... Responsible for their own future sort of mentality....

Regardless, the point Larisa was making that you seem to have missed is not that bias and raviam no longer exist, she started by admitting they do, but that SYSTEMATIC bias and r****m are no longer mainstream... Which I agree is true....



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Jun 19, 2020 19:14:08   #
American Vet
 
marinevet73 wrote:
Let me make sure I understand your post. A white lady is saying that since she has never experienced systemic bias, it must not exist. You know, that may be the exact proof that systemic bias exists.

Might I suggest you go up to a black person and ask them if they have ever experienced bias, or r****m. Then listen very carefully. A bunch of white people sitting around a table discussing that there is no systemic bias proves there is systemic bias.

Go listen to other people outside of your own race and listen to what they have to say. That maybe outside of your comfort zone, but that is the only way you will know about it.
Let me make sure I understand your post. A white ... (show quote)


Post one law or regulation that is r****t.

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Jun 19, 2020 19:57:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
American Vet wrote:
Post one law or regulation that is r****t.



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Jun 19, 2020 20:08:31   #
marinevet73
 
proud republican wrote:
Let me tell you , sir!! Just because I'm white,doesn't mean I don't know what bias is . .. I'm Jewish and being from Russia I know very well what anti Semitism is !! It's no different than being called N names . ... I experienced this every single day of my childhood . .. Doesn't mean that all White people are like that... I overcame that and black people are overcoming r****m....You didn't read the part where I said that r****m DOES exist,I just don't think it exists the way it was in 1960's I believe we came a long way from these terrible times!! That's all I am saying!
Let me tell you , sir!! Just because I'm white,d... (show quote)


I see you don't grasp the black experience.

So you overcame r****m. Wow, good for you.

A person does not overcome s******c r****m. The r****m isn't their fault, it's built into the system, in all aspects of living. So you are a Russian jew who experienced some forms of r****m. THAT IS NOT S******C R****M.

We all experience some biases in life. What white people don't experience is s******c r****m. For you to draw the conclusion that there is no s******c r****m in the US is a stupid conclusion.

Like I said before, go outside your little bubble and talk to black people. If you can honestly say that you did, then you won't sound so stupid.

I think that once to talk to black people, and they tell you about the s******c r****m they live with on a daily basis, you will reach a different conclusion.

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Jun 19, 2020 20:17:47   #
marinevet73
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Why do you assume she has no friends outside her own race??

My friends from Africa are comfounded that American b****s are crying about bias... Bias exists... But better to be black in America than black in Africa... They of course don't view themselves as victims... Responsible for their own future sort of mentality....

Regardless, the point Larisa was making that you seem to have missed is not that bias and raviam no longer exist, she started by admitting they do, but that SYSTEMATIC bias and r****m are no longer mainstream... Which I agree is true....
Why do you assume she has no friends outside her o... (show quote)


Again, another white person reaches the conclusion there is no s******c r****m in the US. And you reached that conclusion how?

Talk to black people who have lived in the US for a period of time. Talking to Africans who may have passed through the US is not talking to the black person who lives with s******c r****m on a daily basis.

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Jun 19, 2020 20:21:32   #
marinevet73
 
American Vet wrote:
Post one law or regulation that is r****t.


Don't let a black person get 'uppity'. The fact that there are no laws on the books about r****m doesn't prove it doesn't exist. It's more subtle than that.

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Jun 19, 2020 20:30:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
marinevet73 wrote:
I see you don't grasp the black experience.

So you overcame r****m. Wow, good for you.

A person does not overcome s******c r****m. The r****m isn't their fault, it's built into the system, in all aspects of living. So you are a Russian jew who experienced some forms of r****m. THAT IS NOT S******C R****M.

We all experience some biases in life. What white people don't experience is s******c r****m. For you to draw the conclusion that there is no s******c r****m in the US is a stupid conclusion.

Like I said before, go outside your little bubble and talk to black people. If you can honestly say that you did, then you won't sound so stupid.

I think that once to talk to black people, and they tell you about the s******c r****m they live with on a daily basis, you will reach a different conclusion.
I see you don't grasp the black experience. br ... (show quote)


Sorry dude!! My cousin who was straight A student couldn't get into University of his choice because of his religion ! It was happening all over Soviet Union back than...You couldn't get a job you want because once people found out your religion,,you were automatically dismissed as a potential employee!! I was harassed in school every single day and my father was threatened with murder by some punks in our neighborhood !! It was all over Russia ! ! Systemic anti semitism is just as bad as r****m . ..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism_in_the_United_States

https://www.foxnews.com/us/columbia-university-and-barnard-college-hotbed-for-h**e-report-documenting-systemic-anti-semitism-at-the-schools-says

https://www.adl.org/anti-semitism

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Jun 19, 2020 21:10:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
marinevet73 wrote:
Again, another white person reaches the conclusion there is no s******c r****m in the US. And you reached that conclusion how?

Talk to black people who have lived in the US for a period of time. Talking to Africans who may have passed through the US is not talking to the black person who lives with s******c r****m on a daily basis.


Read more carefully...

I have spoken to both B***k A******ns and Black Africans...

You're correct, it's not the same... I have yet to meet a B***k A******n who wishes to return to Africa... But plenty of Africans who would love to live in America...

Once again, you assume that I have no experience with B***k A******ns...

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Jun 19, 2020 21:11:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
marinevet73 wrote:
Don't let a black person get 'uppity'. The fact that there are no laws on the books about r****m doesn't prove it doesn't exist. It's more subtle than that.


Uh huh... So if there are no? laws, where does the ''systematic'' part come in???

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