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Jun 17, 2020 05:37:42   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
"V**e by mail might sound good, until you look at the data. The federal e******n assistance commission keeps tabs. Their data show that 28 million b****ts mailed since 2012 simply vanished. They were sent out, but never came back and were counted. Some say they are in landfills, others figure they are in file cabinets. The t***h is, we do not know. All we know is that the mail b****ts never accomplished what they were intended to accomplish.

It gets worse. Hundreds of thousands came back but had defects that prevented them from being counted. The v**ers who sent these b****ts probably do not even know that their b****t was not counted after they sent it back.

Mail v****g also destroys the t***sparency of our e******ns. Observers from each side are unable to watch the process. Mail b****ts are uniquely vulnerable to fraud because they are v**ed behind closed doors where third parties regularly attempt to influence the process. Senior citizens already enjoy rights to request an absentee b****t in every state.

It surprises people to learn that in the middle of an Ebola epidemic in 2014, Liberia conducted an in-person national e******n. Ebola had a fatality rate of 46%, yet people still came into polling places and v**ed in person. The solutions were simple -- sanitization protocols, distancing, disinfectant on surfaces.

Putting the Presidency into the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a serious mistake. Some factions, however, do not care about mistakes. They care more about t***sforming an e******n system so they can t***sform a nation." https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16117/v**e-by-mail

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Jun 17, 2020 05:54:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
ACP45 wrote:
"V**e by mail might sound good, until you look at the data. The federal e******n assistance commission keeps tabs. Their data show that 28 million b****ts mailed since 2012 simply vanished. They were sent out, but never came back and were counted. Some say they are in landfills, others figure they are in file cabinets. The t***h is, we do not know. All we know is that the mail b****ts never accomplished what they were intended to accomplish.

It gets worse. Hundreds of thousands came back but had defects that prevented them from being counted. The v**ers who sent these b****ts probably do not even know that their b****t was not counted after they sent it back.

Mail v****g also destroys the t***sparency of our e******ns. Observers from each side are unable to watch the process. Mail b****ts are uniquely vulnerable to fraud because they are v**ed behind closed doors where third parties regularly attempt to influence the process. Senior citizens already enjoy rights to request an absentee b****t in every state.

It surprises people to learn that in the middle of an Ebola epidemic in 2014, Liberia conducted an in-person national e******n. Ebola had a fatality rate of 46%, yet people still came into polling places and v**ed in person. The solutions were simple -- sanitization protocols, distancing, disinfectant on surfaces.

Putting the Presidency into the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a serious mistake. Some factions, however, do not care about mistakes. They care more about t***sforming an e******n system so they can t***sform a nation." https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16117/v**e-by-mail
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On the money. When I go to v**e, a couple of the workers at the polls are my neighbors that I have known for years and they won't let me v**e without my ID. (Maybe I'll ask for theirs the next time we throw a cookout.) They take it seriously , which is a VERY good thing.

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Jun 17, 2020 07:15:29   #
Big Dolly
 
I never got to v**e in the California Primary because I didn't receive my mail-in b****t in time. It came about a month later and it was mangled!

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Jun 17, 2020 07:28:18   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
ACP45 wrote:
"V**e by mail might sound good, until you look at the data. The federal e******n assistance commission keeps tabs. Their data show that 28 million b****ts mailed since 2012 simply vanished. They were sent out, but never came back and were counted. Some say they are in landfills, others figure they are in file cabinets. The t***h is, we do not know. All we know is that the mail b****ts never accomplished what they were intended to accomplish.

It gets worse. Hundreds of thousands came back but had defects that prevented them from being counted. The v**ers who sent these b****ts probably do not even know that their b****t was not counted after they sent it back.

Mail v****g also destroys the t***sparency of our e******ns. Observers from each side are unable to watch the process. Mail b****ts are uniquely vulnerable to fraud because they are v**ed behind closed doors where third parties regularly attempt to influence the process. Senior citizens already enjoy rights to request an absentee b****t in every state.

It surprises people to learn that in the middle of an Ebola epidemic in 2014, Liberia conducted an in-person national e******n. Ebola had a fatality rate of 46%, yet people still came into polling places and v**ed in person. The solutions were simple -- sanitization protocols, distancing, disinfectant on surfaces.

Putting the Presidency into the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a serious mistake. Some factions, however, do not care about mistakes. They care more about t***sforming an e******n system so they can t***sform a nation." https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16117/v**e-by-mail
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Agreed we do have a dilemma, most of the bonifide Conservative / Republican mail in b****ts will be altered or lost, and the democrats b****ts will survive and be counted. We are being overwhelmed by the deep state in cahoots with SOCTUS, Democrat House, many l*****t Governors and Mayors. It’s there for us to see, and unless we have “help” many people will suffer due to this possible and likely e******n f***d.

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Jun 17, 2020 07:33:27   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Big Dolly wrote:
I never got to v**e in the California Primary because I didn't receive my mail-in b****t in time. It came about a month later and it was mangled!


Another method on how they will nullify our v**e, c***ting 202+, I’m sure they will find other nefarious way as they hatch ideas at night while in bed.

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Jun 17, 2020 08:25:45   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
"V**e by mail might sound good, until you look at the data. The federal e******n assistance commission keeps tabs. Their data show that 28 million b****ts mailed since 2012 simply vanished. They were sent out, but never came back and were counted. Some say they are in landfills, others figure they are in file cabinets. The t***h is, we do not know. All we know is that the mail b****ts never accomplished what they were intended to accomplish.

It gets worse. Hundreds of thousands came back but had defects that prevented them from being counted. The v**ers who sent these b****ts probably do not even know that their b****t was not counted after they sent it back.

Mail v****g also destroys the t***sparency of our e******ns. Observers from each side are unable to watch the process. Mail b****ts are uniquely vulnerable to fraud because they are v**ed behind closed doors where third parties regularly attempt to influence the process. Senior citizens already enjoy rights to request an absentee b****t in every state.

It surprises people to learn that in the middle of an Ebola epidemic in 2014, Liberia conducted an in-person national e******n. Ebola had a fatality rate of 46%, yet people still came into polling places and v**ed in person. The solutions were simple -- sanitization protocols, distancing, disinfectant on surfaces.

Putting the Presidency into the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a serious mistake. Some factions, however, do not care about mistakes. They care more about t***sforming an e******n system so they can t***sform a nation." https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16117/v**e-by-mail
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Does every person registered to v**e actually v**e? No, nor does everyone receiving a mail in b****t return them. In your theory, only people who v**e should be registered to v**e.........................but you won't know who they are...........................until after they v**e.

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Jun 17, 2020 08:54:39   #
American Vet
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Does every person registered to v**e actually v**e? No, nor does everyone receiving a mail in b****t return them. In your theory, only people who v**e should be registered to v**e.........................but you won't know who they are...........................until after they v**e.


You don’t know know who an v**er is till they present. A photo ID.

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Jun 17, 2020 11:19:25   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
American Vet wrote:
You don’t know know who an v**er is till they present. A photo ID.


Returned mail in b****ts must also have copies of ID as well, and must match v**er rolls. Every v**er receiving a mail in b****t must have requested one, and each b****t has an unique code on it registered to that v**er only. It is actually more difficult to c***t with mail v****g, than v****g in person.

Here's a hint:

I had to get a new and certified copy of my birth certificate to get the "realID" that is now required.......................and I did it online by emailing copies of the required documents. I got my new birth certificate in 5 days. If I can prove my identity sufficiently to obtain a federal ID, and/or a passport, doing it online and/or by mail..............................why is v****g by mail so dangerous? Answer..................it isn't.

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Jun 17, 2020 11:30:39   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Returned mail in b****ts must also have copies of ID as well, and must match v**er rolls. Every v**er receiving a mail in b****t must have requested one, and each b****t has an unique code on it registered to that v**er only. It is actually more difficult to c***t with mail v****g, than v****g in person.


Here's a hint:

I had to get a new and certified copy of my birth certificate to get the "realID" that is now required.......................and I did it online by emailing copies of the required documents. I got my new birth certificate in 5 days. If I can prove my identity sufficiently to obtain a federal ID, and/or a passport, doing it online and/or by mail..............................why is v****g by mail so dangerous? Answer..................it isn't.
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I don’t know how they would c***t by mail in b****ts, but then I’m not the democrat criminal master mind, and the norm is to c***t at the polls, v**e twice, v**e often, .etc.

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Jun 17, 2020 13:47:00   #
Big Dolly
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Returned mail in b****ts must also have copies of ID as well, and must match v**er rolls. Every v**er receiving a mail in b****t must have requested one, and each b****t has an unique code on it registered to that v**er only. It is actually more difficult to c***t with mail v****g, than v****g in person.

Here's a hint:

I had to get a new and certified copy of my birth certificate to get the "realID" that is now required.......................and I did it online by emailing copies of the required documents. I got my new birth certificate in 5 days. If I can prove my identity sufficiently to obtain a federal ID, and/or a passport, doing it online and/or by mail..............................why is v****g by mail so dangerous? Answer..................it isn't.
Returned mail in b****ts must also have copies of ... (show quote)


I've been v****g by mail for the past three years due to the fact that I'm elderly and disabled. So far as I know, that's not a requirement in California. However, I had to replace my California ID because DMV put the wrong address on it. Fortunately, I don't have to pay for ID cards anymore because I'm over 65, but thanks for your advice. Since I'm moving to Nebraska sometime within a year, I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have that birth certificate anyway. It should be fairly easy to obtain because I was born in California and I now live in Sacramento. The only problem is I don't have access to a computer, now that the libraries are shut down. I call at least once a week, but there's no change yet. The only way that I can get online is with my Android and it's a Sprint Wiki which I got through California Lifeline, so you know that it's obsolete. However, it's possible that I can email the V**ers Registration Office and ask what they would suggest, so once again, thank you. The internet is great, isn't it?

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Jun 17, 2020 14:27:17   #
American Vet
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Returned mail in b****ts must also have copies of ID as well, and must match v**er rolls. Every v**er receiving a mail in b****t must have requested one, and each b****t has an unique code on it registered to that v**er only. It is actually more difficult to c***t with mail v****g, than v****g in person.

Here's a hint:

I had to get a new and certified copy of my birth certificate to get the "realID" that is now required.......................and I did it online by emailing copies of the required documents. I got my new birth certificate in 5 days. If I can prove my identity sufficiently to obtain a federal ID, and/or a passport, doing it online and/or by mail..............................why is v****g by mail so dangerous? Answer..................it isn't.
Returned mail in b****ts must also have copies of ... (show quote)


Perhaps you better up-date yourself. California and several other states are planning to mail a b****t to everyone on the v***r r**********n rolls. Do you want to know how up to date they are?

Easier to commit fraud with the mail in b****t system.

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Jun 18, 2020 02:11:57   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
American Vet wrote:
Perhaps you better up-date yourself. California and several other states are planning to mail a b****t to everyone on the v***r r**********n rolls. Do you want to know how up to date they are?

Easier to commit fraud with the mail in b****t system.


Well as of 2019 California has been sending verification request to the v**ers about the eligibility of v****g. So the rolls have been verified, so the accuracy should be be fairly accurate. About easier to commit fraud , the last e******n in cailfornia was a mail in b****t it got Garcia in the 25th district seat.
So the possibility of the mail in b****t seems not to benefit ether party.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/20/calif_begins_removing_5_million_inactive_v**ers_on_its_rolls__140602.html

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Jun 18, 2020 17:13:03   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
ACP45 wrote:
"V**e by mail might sound good, until you look at the data. The federal e******n assistance commission keeps tabs. Their data show that 28 million b****ts mailed since 2012 simply vanished. They were sent out, but never came back and were counted. Some say they are in landfills, others figure they are in file cabinets. The t***h is, we do not know. All we know is that the mail b****ts never accomplished what they were intended to accomplish.

It gets worse. Hundreds of thousands came back but had defects that prevented them from being counted. The v**ers who sent these b****ts probably do not even know that their b****t was not counted after they sent it back.

Mail v****g also destroys the t***sparency of our e******ns. Observers from each side are unable to watch the process. Mail b****ts are uniquely vulnerable to fraud because they are v**ed behind closed doors where third parties regularly attempt to influence the process. Senior citizens already enjoy rights to request an absentee b****t in every state.

It surprises people to learn that in the middle of an Ebola epidemic in 2014, Liberia conducted an in-person national e******n. Ebola had a fatality rate of 46%, yet people still came into polling places and v**ed in person. The solutions were simple -- sanitization protocols, distancing, disinfectant on surfaces.

Putting the Presidency into the hands of the United States Postal Service would be a serious mistake. Some factions, however, do not care about mistakes. They care more about t***sforming an e******n system so they can t***sform a nation." https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16117/v**e-by-mail
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I'm not so worried about the sanitation issue. The v***r f***d is why I'm interested.

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Jun 18, 2020 18:31:48   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
zombinis3 wrote:
Well as of 2019 California has been sending verification request to the v**ers about the eligibility of v****g. So the rolls have been verified, so the accuracy should be be fairly accurate. About easier to commit fraud , the last e******n in cailfornia was a mail in b****t it got Garcia in the 25th district seat.
So the possibility of the mail in b****t seems not to benefit ether party.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/06/20/calif_begins_removing_5_million_inactive_v**ers_on_its_rolls__140602.html
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Since your from CA. maybe you can verify a rumor for me? Was there any party identifier on the outside of the envelope?

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Jun 18, 2020 20:29:48   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
Peewee wrote:
Since your from CA. maybe you can verify a rumor for me? Was there any party identifier on the outside of the envelope?


Not from California, normally the mail in b****ts don't have a identifier on the outside. Based on the alignment of California in 2019 to the dems. For Garcia to get the majority he would have to get some dems to v**e for him.Of course you will have to take account the lines of the district .

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