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Jun 9, 2020 06:36:39   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Can you believe it, took me some minutes for it to sink in, just what we needed poverty.


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Jun 9, 2020 07:04:28   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
RT friend wrote:
Can you believe it, took me some minutes for it to sink in, just what we needed poverty.



This didn’t have a link for me to see your point of view. Thanks for considering looking for one.

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Jun 9, 2020 07:24:44   #
Seth
 
RT friend wrote:
Can you believe it, took me some minutes for it to sink in, just what we needed poverty.



Why do you think such a defense pact is a bad idea? Both Australia and India have strong, well trained military forces, and India's proximity to China lends the Aussies a certain strategic advantage.

Given India's friendship with/access to Israel's advanced military technology (not to mention the inevitable withdrawal of Tel Aviv from its already waning technology exchanges, at the Trump Administration's insistence, with China) and their good relationship with the United States, the arrangement won't be lost on China. The entire strategic situation will only serve to make Beijing rethink some of the their latest threats and aggressions.

While many focus on Russia and Putin as a potential threat, China has emerged as the number one threat not only to the global economy, but potentially world peace. They are not to be trusted and have more than proven that. Simply put, Beijing seeks dominance of the global economy and if they succeed in fulfilling this ambition, the west will not be treated fairly or well.

I also fail to see where poverty enters the equation -- a defense pact is not an agreement to mingle day-to-day private sector economies.

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Jun 9, 2020 07:28:30   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
iFrank wrote:
This didn’t have a link for me to see your point of view. Thanks for considering looking for one.


Don't know how to copy and paste, otherwise I would do links.sorry about that.

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Jun 9, 2020 08:19:41   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Seth wrote:
Why do you think such a defense pact is a bad idea? Both Australia and India have strong, well trained military forces, and India's proximity to China lends the Aussies a certain strategic advantage.

Given India's friendship with/access to Israel's advanced military technology (not to mention the inevitable withdrawal of Tel Aviv from its already waning technology exchanges, at the Trump Administration's insistence, with China) and their good relationship with the United States, the arrangement won't be lost on China. The entire strategic situation will only serve to make Beijing rethink some of the their latest threats and aggressions.

While many focus on Russia and Putin as a potential threat, China has emerged as the number one threat not only to the global economy, but potentially world peace. They are not to be trusted and have more than proven that. Simply put, Beijing seeks dominance of the global economy and if they succeed in fulfilling this ambition, the west will not be treated fairly or well.

I also fail to see where poverty enters the equation -- a defense pact is not an agreement to mingle day-to-day private sector economies.
Why do you think such a defense pact is a bad idea... (show quote)


Thanks Seth for the good reply, lot to discuss there but for now, I just wanted to make my position known on a public forum, and when the outcome is spoken about I will say I was right or wrong all along, because I think historical interpretation is a lot to do with consolidation of previous commitments, this is one such previous commitment I'm making, if it's not public there is no real commitment.

So please consider, what is a fanatic?.
A fanatic is someone who uses words to back up actions, and a crazy fanatic is someone who thinks his estimation is absolute, Morrison is crazy Trump is rational.

Look a North Korea now pushing South Korea around is Trump worried, not at all, and same thing with Iran bombing US base shooting down spy drone, Libya Trump not interested but would like to see Kalifa come out on top, Turkey buying S400, doesn't matter, Afghanistan Taliban wins, all that proves Trump is reasonable, Morrison is not normal.

Will Trump underwrite Modi's territorial claims, I don't think so, Modi probably represents a few hundred incarnations so why shouldn't he be wh**ever he wants as long as there is a few hundred million Shudras (lower caste Indians) Willing to offer their lives for the clown, Indian law prohibits the segregation of society into castes but only 10 % of Indian marriages have taken place outside of the caste system, that's what India is, and it's not because the lower castes keep it that way, but on the other hand the Brahmans make bad soldiers that's why Ghandi won he sold them down the river, this mug is in for a big surprise and I hope he takes Morrison into a few of his future incarnations.

If dec**pling from China Russia Pakistan and Iran is possible that's one thing, why Australia should be the leader is something entirely different, Divine intervention is the only thing it possibly could be, Morrison's mind has been colonised by the Devil.

India will back down Australia will be left high and dry, God is in control, Morrison is a toffy nosed British Imperialist who cares nothing about the Country, probably neither does God and can you blame Him, I don't think so.


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Jun 9, 2020 08:31:24   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
RT friend wrote:
Don't know how to copy and paste, otherwise I would do links.sorry about that.


No problemo, was searching and found many aspects on the subject, I’ll catch on as the read the replies.

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Jun 9, 2020 08:43:04   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
iFrank wrote:
No problemo, was searching and found many aspects on the subject, I’ll catch on as the read the replies.


Thanks, it's a big deal that really surprised me.

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Jun 9, 2020 09:28:42   #
Seth
 
RT friend wrote:
Thanks Seth for the good reply, lot to discuss there but for now, I just wanted to make my position known on a public forum, and when the outcome is spoken about I will say I was right or wrong all along, because I think historical interpretation is a lot to do with consolidation of previous commitments, this is one such previous commitment I'm making, if it's not public there is no real commitment.

So please consider, what is a fanatic?.
A fanatic is someone who uses words to back up actions, and a crazy fanatic is someone who thinks his estimation is absolute, Morrison is crazy Trump is rational.

Look a North Korea now pushing South Korea around is Trump worried, not at all, and same thing with Iran bombing US base shooting down spy drone, Libya Trump not interested but would like to see Kalifa come out on top, Turkey buying S400, doesn't matter, Afghanistan Taliban wins, all that proves Trump is reasonable, Morrison is not normal.

Will Trump underwrite Modi's territorial claims, I don't think so, Modi probably represents a few hundred incarnations so why shouldn't he be wh**ever he wants as long as there is a few hundred million Shudras (lower caste Indians) Willing to offer their lives for the clown, Indian law prohibits the segregation of society into castes but only 10 % of Indian marriages have taken place outside of the caste system, that's what India is, and it's not because the lower castes keep it that way, but on the other hand the Brahmans make bad soldiers that's why Ghandi won he sold them down the river, this mug is in for a big surprise and I hope he takes Morrison into a few of his future incarnations.

If dec**pling from China Russia Pakistan and Iran is possible that's one thing, why Australia should be the leader is something entirely different, Divine intervention is the only thing it possibly could be, Morrison's mind has been colonised by the Devil.

India will back down Australia will be left high and dry, God is in control, Morrison is a toffy nosed British Imperialist who cares nothing about the Country, probably neither does God and can you blame Him, I don't think so.

Thanks Seth for the good reply, lot to discuss the... (show quote)


Looks to me like one of those "let's see how things develop" situations, what further alliances are formed and which endure when things heat up, which if China's acceleration of aggressive actions continues, things surely will.

Where the Islamic world is concerned, I doubt we've even nearly heard the last of Iraq, Libya and especially Iran.

As far as Afghanistan goes, history has, or should have, taught all concerned that it is nothing other than a quagmire for any outside countries that become militarily involved within its borders. A veritable Sargasso Sea in land form.

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Jun 9, 2020 10:57:07   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
RT friend wrote:
Can you believe it, took me some minutes for it to sink in, just what we needed poverty.



I fail to see how a mutual defense treaty imports poverty.

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Jun 9, 2020 15:20:22   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I fail to see how a mutual defense treaty imports poverty.


That's because your probably not Chinese.
Hours after Australia and India entered into a military alliance to press Modi's territorial claims in the Himalayas probably include Kashmir where India just invaded and locked all the locals down, probably they will have to get out of town so the cows can graze in the streets, but this is violation of all UN protocols of the region, Modi figures Trump will step in and save him for greater good of cows, fat chance.

Anyhow hours after Austra India defence pact China advised its students don't go study in Australian Universities for wh**ever reason doesn't matter.

Morrison just declared war on China.

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Jun 9, 2020 15:57:45   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Seth wrote:
Looks to me like one of those "let's see how things develop" situations, what further alliances are formed and which endure when things heat up, which if China's acceleration of aggressive actions continues, things surely will.

Where the Islamic world is concerned, I doubt we've even nearly heard the last of Iraq, Libya and especially Iran.

As far as Afghanistan goes, history has, or should have, taught all concerned that it is nothing other than a quagmire for any outside countries that become militarily involved within its borders. A veritable Sargasso Sea in land form.
Looks to me like one of those "let's see how ... (show quote)


Sargasso Sea aka. Devils Sea, Bermuda Triangle, not such a mystery, I can tell you exactly what goes on, what happened was long long ago there was a remarkable trading hub so outsiders wanted to get in on the deal but when they went there they drifted into Occultation, there are a lot of q***rs in Afghanistan and they have have auctions at the end of a charity night and auction off the dancing boys.

Because the q***rs are so ashamed next morning, the boys are never heard of again, so the tribal leaders just say they occultateed, and the dancing boys are actually the outsiders who tried to get in on the deal.

I think the US is now shut out of the ME unless it mends fences with Turkey,

If you read, Siad K Aburish 1953 - 2012 the Palestinian journalist come arms dealer author of 11 books you'll understand why if you're not biases totally, C*****e C****e and poverty might defeat Iran, Libya and Iraq from t***sitioning as regional leaders opposing Egypt UAE and KSA but it won't defeat Turkey, and if you think China is aggressive then the UN is outdated, about to be replaced by Boris Johnson and Bolsonaro with Juan Guaido their leader, except Guaido was auctioned off last week and is now occultateed.



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Jun 9, 2020 16:46:01   #
Seth
 
RT friend wrote:
Sargasso Sea aka. Devils Sea, Bermuda Triangle, not such a mystery, I can tell you exactly what goes on, what happened was long long ago there was a remarkable trading hub so outsiders wanted to get in on the deal but when they went there they drifted into Occultation, there are a lot of q***rs in Afghanistan and they have have auctions at the end of a charity night and auction off the dancing boys.

Because the q***rs are so ashamed next morning, the boys are never heard of again, so the tribal leaders just say they occultateed, and the dancing boys are actually the outsiders who tried to get in on the deal.

I think the US is now shut out of the ME unless it mends fences with Turkey,

If you read, Siad K Aburish 1953 - 2012 the Palestinian journalist come arms dealer author of 11 books you'll understand why if you're not biases totally, C*****e C****e and poverty might defeat Iran, Libya and Iraq from t***sitioning as regional leaders opposing Egypt UAE and KSA but it won't defeat Turkey, and if you think China is aggressive then the UN is outdated, about to be replaced by Boris Johnson and Bolsonaro with Juan Guaido their leader, except Guaido was auctioned off last week and is now occultateed.


Sargasso Sea aka. Devils Sea, Bermuda Triangle, no... (show quote)


I've read a book of Aburish's on the decline of Palestinian Christians and another he wrote on the Saudis. Given the usual rhetoric that comes out of the Arab world in more modern books, his honesty and serious willingness to get at the t***h were refreshing.

On the Saudis, though, a country run by a royal family that would prefer secularism to Wahhabism but don't have the option -- they have to keep the fundamentalists happy to a certain extent or risk becoming another casualty of the so-called "Arab Spring," having to adhere to an ages old pact made with the Wahhabs by their House of Saud ancestors -- Aburish doesn't exhibit much in the way of understanding for their plight.

I believe the Turkey/Erdogan situation is another "wait and see" number, though it looks like that's one strongman whose position may well stand the rest of time.

He could present a problem for us later. I definitely don't believe Turkey belongs in NATO, admitting them was a big mistake that could, if there were ever any future problems of note with Russia, come back to bite us and the EU on the ass.

However, as long as we have the Saudis as at least a fair weather ally and access to both Egypt and Israel, we can project power in the ME.

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Jun 9, 2020 17:58:45   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Seth wrote:
I've read a book of Aburish's on the decline of Palestinian Christians and another he wrote on the Saudis. Given the usual rhetoric that comes out of the Arab world in more modern books, his honesty and serious willingness to get at the t***h were refreshing.

On the Saudis, though, a country run by a royal family that would prefer secularism to Wahhabism but don't have the option -- they have to keep the fundamentalists happy to a certain extent or risk becoming another casualty of the so-called "Arab Spring," having to adhere to an ages old pact made with the Wahhabs by their House of Saud ancestors -- Aburish doesn't exhibit much in the way of understanding for their plight.

I believe the Turkey/Erdogan situation is another "wait and see" number, though it looks like that's one strongman whose position may well stand the rest of time.

He could present a problem for us later. I definitely don't believe Turkey belongs in NATO, admitting them was a big mistake that could, if there were ever any future problems of note with Russia, come back to bite us and the EU on the ass.

However, as long as we have the Saudis as at least a fair weather ally and access to both Egypt and Israel, we can project power in the ME.
I've read a book of Aburish's on the decline of Pa... (show quote)


Wahabbi infiltrated the Salafist Religion, only Saudi Royals accept him as anything at all to do with the Religion, maybe God's not real or doesn't want to be seen as being real (same thing) in which case Wahhabi's future is secure probably that's the way it's meant to be so worthy people can stand out.

Or maybe God is not that worried about maintaining a hidden agenda in which case Saudi Wahhabies are fish food.

Said K Aburish saw corruption everywhere, particularly Arafat's wife Surah, entire chapter "L'Etat Arafat " 1995 where "Suha is seen shopping shopping in Pari's Faubourg St.Honore with Khashoggi's wife " and Said continues "yet there is no evidence Arafat used money for his personal ends".

As it turned out the Palestinian bank accounts vanished when he died and Suha is on a pension in Tunisia, or so they say.

According to rumors, Yasser Arafat's widow Suah marries Tunisian President's brother-in-law, who was supposed to marry her sister, but chose Suha due to her large fortune.

Virtue has never been the reason for dominance, so why use virtue as a tool for political decisions?. Answer. - What else is there for agnostics.

The Arabs were going that way until Saddam Hussein put them off and the Baathist Party became not so relevant, not long after I became a Salafist, which is why I alone can bring peace to the ME as I'm also Jesus Christ. Happy days are here again.

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Jun 9, 2020 18:20:43   #
Seth
 
RT friend wrote:
Wahabbi infiltrated the Salafist Religion, only Saudi Royals accept him as anything at all to do with the Religion, maybe God's not real or doesn't want to be seen as being real (same thing) in which case Wahhabi's future is secure probably that's the way it's meant to be so worthy people can stand out.

Or maybe God is not that worried about maintaining a hidden agenda in which case Saudi Wahhabies are fish food.

Said K Aburish saw corruption everywhere, particularly Arafat's wife Surah, entire chapter "L'Etat Arafat " 1995 where "Suha is seen shopping shopping in Pari's Faubourg St.Honore with Khashoggi's wife " and Said continues "yet there is no evidence Arafat used money for his personal ends".

As it turned out the Palestinian bank accounts vanished when he died and Suha is on a pension in Tunisia, or so they say.

According to rumors, Yasser Arafat's widow Suah marries Tunisian President's brother-in-law, who was supposed to marry her sister, but chose Suha due to her large fortune.

Virtue has never been the reason for dominance, so why use virtue as a tool for political decisions?. Answer. - What else is there for agnostics.

The Arabs were going that way until Saddam Hussein put them off and the Baathist Party became not so relevant, not long after I became a Salafist, which is why I alone can bring peace to the ME as I'm also Jesus Christ. Happy days are here again.
Wahabbi infiltrated the Salafist Religion, only S... (show quote)


I had read that when Arafat died his wife was left with about 3/4 of a billion in Switzerland. Arafat's PLO, like today's PA, was extremely corrupt.

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Jun 9, 2020 19:37:31   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Seth wrote:
I had read that when Arafat died his wife was left with about 3/4 of a billion in Switzerland. Arafat's PLO, like today's PA, was extremely corrupt.


I don't think it's an accurate account because Arafat became a name that was the result of investment and the investors never cut their ties, Sura had Ben Ali that's why she's alive, but Britain and France traded him for the Brotherhood Obama had no choice but to back then up.

Ben Ali lives on and the Brother swapped aside now their with me JC.

Personally I think it was the Devil operating through the wife that got Arafat in the end, Israeli poison was only an adjunct, up until 1990 when Arafat married Suha he was fully dedicated as you'd have to be to survive, Syria was against him and we can see how big Syria has become, but in general the Palestinians still had a World recognize leader.

I suppose they'll ask me to take over that role, if I do the only thing I will insist on is absolutely No Moles.

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