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Can Derek Chauvin get a fair trial?
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Jun 8, 2020 14:30:33   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French Revolution-style terror court and see him rapidly carted off to the guillotine. The Left appears to have far less interest in Chauvin's right to due process than it does for senior al Qaeda terrorists.

Convicting Chauvin of second-degree murder will require the jury accepting that while Chauvin did not intend to k**l Floyd, he did so while committing a felony involving the use of force. While kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes might seem like a felony, it is not per se regarded as a felony assault by Minneapolis authorities. As NBC News notes: "The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years."

A conviction of third-degree murder will require the prosecution to convince the jury that as he kneeled on Floyd's neck, Chauvin was "evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Considering Floyd's violent criminal record and the fact that he resisted arrest in this case (although apparently without violence), Chauvin's defense will probably claim that his conduct was not depraved but rather a reflex in the action of the moment.

We should not expect this trial to deliver a quick conviction. There is a chance that Chauvin and his fellow officers may be acquitted on all charges. Then what?

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Jun 8, 2020 14:34:21   #
Carol Kelly
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French Revolution-style terror court and see him rapidly carted off to the guillotine. The Left appears to have far less interest in Chauvin's right to due process than it does for senior al Qaeda terrorists.

Convicting Chauvin of second-degree murder will require the jury accepting that while Chauvin did not intend to k**l Floyd, he did so while committing a felony involving the use of force. While kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes might seem like a felony, it is not per se regarded as a felony assault by Minneapolis authorities. As NBC News notes: "The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years."

A conviction of third-degree murder will require the prosecution to convince the jury that as he kneeled on Floyd's neck, Chauvin was "evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Considering Floyd's violent criminal record and the fact that he resisted arrest in this case (although apparently without violence), Chauvin's defense will probably claim that his conduct was not depraved but rather a reflex in the action of the moment.

We should not expect this trial to deliver a quick conviction. There is a chance that Chauvin and his fellow officers may be acquitted on all charges. Then what?
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French... (show quote)


His fellow prisoners will break his neck or the guards will hang him. Oh, wait a minute, if Minnesota does away with their police force, will there be prison guards?

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Jun 8, 2020 14:38:34   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
His fellow prisoners will break his neck or the guards will hang him. Oh, wait a minute, if Minnesota does away with their police force, will there be prison guards?


Prison guards are Federal Law Enforcement.

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Jun 8, 2020 14:40:54   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French Revolution-style terror court and see him rapidly carted off to the guillotine. The Left appears to have far less interest in Chauvin's right to due process than it does for senior al Qaeda terrorists.

Convicting Chauvin of second-degree murder will require the jury accepting that while Chauvin did not intend to k**l Floyd, he did so while committing a felony involving the use of force. While kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes might seem like a felony, it is not per se regarded as a felony assault by Minneapolis authorities. As NBC News notes: "The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years."

A conviction of third-degree murder will require the prosecution to convince the jury that as he kneeled on Floyd's neck, Chauvin was "evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Considering Floyd's violent criminal record and the fact that he resisted arrest in this case (although apparently without violence), Chauvin's defense will probably claim that his conduct was not depraved but rather a reflex in the action of the moment.

We should not expect this trial to deliver a quick conviction. There is a chance that Chauvin and his fellow officers may be acquitted on all charges. Then what?
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French... (show quote)


There’s no way in hell he will get a fair trial considering what is going on in today's world !! In my opinion he IS very guilty !! He practically murdered Mr Floyd on camera .....But even he deserves a fair trial ,which I seriously doubt he will get!!

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Jun 8, 2020 14:45:33   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French Revolution-style terror court and see him rapidly carted off to the guillotine. The Left appears to have far less interest in Chauvin's right to due process than it does for senior al Qaeda terrorists.

Convicting Chauvin of second-degree murder will require the jury accepting that while Chauvin did not intend to k**l Floyd, he did so while committing a felony involving the use of force. While kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes might seem like a felony, it is not per se regarded as a felony assault by Minneapolis authorities. As NBC News notes: "The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years."

A conviction of third-degree murder will require the prosecution to convince the jury that as he kneeled on Floyd's neck, Chauvin was "evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Considering Floyd's violent criminal record and the fact that he resisted arrest in this case (although apparently without violence), Chauvin's defense will probably claim that his conduct was not depraved but rather a reflex in the action of the moment.

We should not expect this trial to deliver a quick conviction. There is a chance that Chauvin and his fellow officers may be acquitted on all charges. Then what?
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French... (show quote)


The h**ers raised the bar too high to convict him on a second! With a well-deserved venue change they could all walk and let the r**ts begin again! Stupid as stupid is the liberal left! The afidavites stated the police could not get him into the squad car and had to restrain him until he complied. They better not burn down the USPS! Maybe we should burn them down to put a stop to this buffoonery of v**e-by-mail?

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Jun 8, 2020 14:56:22   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
proud republican wrote:
There’s no way in hell he will get a fair trial considering what is going on in today's world !! In my opinion he IS very guilty !! He practically murdered Mr Floyd on camera .....But even he deserves a fair trial ,which I seriously doubt he will get!!


His body cam, or any of the officer's, has not been released. Even though one man in the crowd asked him why not just get up and get in the squad car, implying he had been resisting arrest. Even though the autopsy did not show bruising of neck or shoulder.

You just proved my point. He can not get a fair trial.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:03:32   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
The h**ers raised the bar too high to convict him on a second! With a well-deserved venue change they could all walk and let the r**ts begin again! Stupid as stupid is the liberal left! The afidavites stated the police could not get him into the squad car and had to restrain him until he complied. They better not burn down the USPS! Maybe we should burn them down to put a stop to this buffoonery of v**e-by-mail?


Today he went for bail hearing and the prosecuter made a point of the public opinion. Chauvin did not enter a plea. He sat silently. This will never go to trial although I wish it would because he is going to walk on the big charges.

Burn down the USPS if it will stop v***r f***d!

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Jun 8, 2020 15:05:01   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
proud republican wrote:
There’s no way in hell he will get a fair trial considering what is going on in today's world !! In my opinion he IS very guilty !! He practically murdered Mr Floyd on camera .....But even he deserves a fair trial ,which I seriously doubt he will get!!


Practically, PR??? The video is all the prosecutors will need. Move the trial wherever. Chauvin is toast.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:09:55   #
Carol Kelly
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Prison guards are Federal Law Enforcement.


And feds like the crooked FBI would be protected?

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Jun 8, 2020 15:12:32   #
Carol Kelly
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Today he went for bail hearing and the prosecuter made a point of the public opinion. Chauvin did not enter a plea. He sat silently. This will never go to trial although I wish it would because he is going to walk on the big charges.

Burn down the USPS if it will stop v***r f***d!


While he’s out on bail, he’ll be k**led and these protestors won’t be satisfied because this is about a heck of a lot more than the criminal, G****e F***d. Their intent is to take over the country and they’re succeeding, with no opposition.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:13:27   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
And feds like the crooked FBI would be protected?


I don't know what you mean. My response was too vague for you. The mayor or governor can not defund prison guards because they do not pay them.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:14:17   #
Radiance3
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French Revolution-style terror court and see him rapidly carted off to the guillotine. The Left appears to have far less interest in Chauvin's right to due process than it does for senior al Qaeda terrorists.

Convicting Chauvin of second-degree murder will require the jury accepting that while Chauvin did not intend to k**l Floyd, he did so while committing a felony involving the use of force. While kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes might seem like a felony, it is not per se regarded as a felony assault by Minneapolis authorities. As NBC News notes: "The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years."

A conviction of third-degree murder will require the prosecution to convince the jury that as he kneeled on Floyd's neck, Chauvin was "evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Considering Floyd's violent criminal record and the fact that he resisted arrest in this case (although apparently without violence), Chauvin's defense will probably claim that his conduct was not depraved but rather a reflex in the action of the moment.

We should not expect this trial to deliver a quick conviction. There is a chance that Chauvin and his fellow officers may be acquitted on all charges. Then what?
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French... (show quote)

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I think acquittal is an impossibility. All the B*M, Anarchists, A****A, and the rests of the million MOBSTERS all over the country, promised not to stop the mayhem unless Chauvin is convicted with 1st degree to death. That was one of the demands during the George's memorial to avenge his death.

They'd perhaps hide the Autopsy report, and body of George now gone to review.

I think the mobs were enabled and empowered by democrats so that they could accuse president Trump of his inability to handling and running the country. Therefore he resigns, and the c*******t democrats take over. This mobsters are staged. National polls stupid and crooked Biden is ahead by 14 points over the president Trump.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:16:06   #
Simple Sam Loc: USA
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
While he’s out on bail, he’ll be k**led and these protestors won’t be satisfied because this is about a heck of a lot more than the criminal, G****e F***d. Their intent is to take over the country and they’re succeeding, with no opposition.


He is not looking to raise the 1.25 million bail. Yes, if we continue to bow and beg the USA is lost.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:31:02   #
Kevyn
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Prison guards are Federal Law Enforcement.

He is charged with a state crime and will be tried in a state court and if convicted serve time in a state prison.

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Jun 8, 2020 15:35:53   #
Kevyn
 
Simple Sam wrote:
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French Revolution-style terror court and see him rapidly carted off to the guillotine. The Left appears to have far less interest in Chauvin's right to due process than it does for senior al Qaeda terrorists.

Convicting Chauvin of second-degree murder will require the jury accepting that while Chauvin did not intend to k**l Floyd, he did so while committing a felony involving the use of force. While kneeling on someone's neck for nine minutes might seem like a felony, it is not per se regarded as a felony assault by Minneapolis authorities. As NBC News notes: "The version of the Minneapolis Police Department's policy manual that is available on-line, however, does permit the use of neck restraints that can render suspects unconscious, and the protocol for their use has not been updated for more than eight years."

A conviction of third-degree murder will require the prosecution to convince the jury that as he kneeled on Floyd's neck, Chauvin was "evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life." Considering Floyd's violent criminal record and the fact that he resisted arrest in this case (although apparently without violence), Chauvin's defense will probably claim that his conduct was not depraved but rather a reflex in the action of the moment.

We should not expect this trial to deliver a quick conviction. There is a chance that Chauvin and his fellow officers may be acquitted on all charges. Then what?
Many would be happy to subject Chauvin to a French... (show quote)

The murder is recorded in video in real time, there is no question of his actions. That in mind, one r****t on the jury can hang it. Is there a good chance that one in twelve is a r****t? I think it is a likelihood. An acquittal would sadly cause outrage and things would likely boil over again.

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