Kevyn

Amid a dramatic rise in spending on police and prisons while funding for vital social services has shrunk or disappeared altogether, a movement to defund police gains 'unprecedented' support across US

Government officials have long dismissed the idea as a l*****t fantasy, but the recent unrest and massive budget shortfalls from the C****-** crisis appear to have inspired more mainstream recognition of the central arguments behind defunding.

“To see legislators who aren’t even necessarily on the left supporting at least a significant decrease in New York police department [NYPD] funding is really very encouraging,” Julia Salazar, a New York state senator and Democratic socialist, told the Guardian on Tuesday. “It feels a little bit surreal.”

Floyd’s death on camera in Minneapolis, advocates say, was a powerful demonstration that police reform efforts of the last half-decade have failed to stop r****t policing and k*****gs. Meanwhile, the striking visuals of enormous, militarized and at times violent police forces responding to peaceful protests have led some politicians to question whether police really need this much money and firepower.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

This will not, in anyone's mind, stand past the first time they are directly threatened with attack by criminals, and then it will be an instant call to 911:

"Policemen, come at once, and come heavily armed!"

American Vet

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There was also a movement to encourage urophagia.

Radiance3

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All democrat states and cities love to remove the police officers from their cities. They'd prefer that l**ters, vandals, and anarchists be able to burn/tear down the whole town so that the people blames the president.

Hollywood, don't care either. They all have their own bodyguards.

These c*******t democrats don't care about the people, whether they die, suffer, hungry or sick. The democrat officials and all their employees are paid continuously with benefits intact. So they are filled.

Their purpose is to make people suffer so they blame the president. This is another weapon they use to destroy president Trump.

DaWg44

I am all for all these cities completely disbanding their police departments. New York basically already has w/ their catch & release, no bail.

No police, no security details for politicians. Just divide the city up equally among gangs & pay them to keep order.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

These zombies can't wait for you to lose your police protection

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

OIC-U812

Radiance3

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Without the police officers, you will have all of the above to steal/l**t, k**l whiteys, and officers. Which do you prefer. Police officers or them?

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

You can depend on the political leadership in places like NYC, Minneapolis, Chicago and others to do precisely the wrong thing at the right time.

Instead of addressing the root causes of an issue such as "Police Brutality" or the judgement of Politicians who have ordered police to stand down, and let the l**ters destroy and steal from small businesses, their solution is to defund the police.

Why does the public not hold them accountable for their failure to look into these issues:

1. Police Training. "When McKinney, TX police officer David Eric Casebolt brutally took down a teenage girl at a pool party in June, he was using a form of martial arts called Krav Maga in which he trained exclusively. These combat techniques were developed by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).

This is a small reflection of a larger reality that exists in U.S. law enforcement, one that helps explain the brutality and militarization that now characterizes so many police forces. Since 9/11, cops have been traveling abroad to learn from one of the most repressive and dangerous State forces in the world today—the Israeli military and intelligence apparatus." https://thefreethoughtproject.com/u-s-police-routinely-travel-israel-learn-methods-brutality-repression/

2. Why do Police Unions Protect Bad Cops- "Unions are required under the duty of fair representation covered by the National Labor Relations Act and state laws to give the best possible protections, including legal aid and support in job negotiations, to all their members." But "Police unions, in acts that go beyond their legally required duties, also leverage the public's high regard for law enforcement to impede policy changes. Unions have aggressively lobbied against prison sentencing reform and reducing police militarization. And they've been some of the most vocal critics and skeptics of police-worn body cameras that would record officers in the line of duty.

Some criminal justice experts worry unions' power and single-mindedness — and the attention dev**ed to unions in public discourse — make it more difficult to bring change from within police departments. By going after anyone who dares criticize police officers, unions may stamp out real dissent within the rank and file of police departments." https://www.vox.com/2014/12/18/7415135/police-unions

3. The increasing "Militarization of the Police Force" - Police militarization involves agencies changing themselves to follow the principles of the military such as Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) teams that have worked their way into county sheriff’s offices and smaller police departments. Has anyone questioned the concept that militarization weakens the community relations necessary for effective policing? https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/featured-articles/police-militarization

4. The issue of Civil Asset Forfeiture - What Is Civil Asset Forfeiture?

Civil asset forfeiture (CAF) is a major driver in the militarization of the police force. Put simply, CAF is a legal principle that allows police to seize money and property from suspected criminals, which they can do without a warrant because the suspect’s property doesn’t have the presumption of innocence.

CAF is effectively a legally allowed form of theft by police officers. Here is a short list of military hardware purchased with CAF funds:

$5 million helicopter for the Los Angeles Police Department
$1 million mobile command bus for Prince George County, Maryland
$227,000 for a tank in Douglasville, GA
$54,000 for 27 M-4 assault rifles in Braselton, GA
https://fee.org/articles/the-militarization-of-americas-police-a-brief-history/

John Meoff

And Kevyn, you should show your commitment to it when one city does defund the police & move to it yourself. In fact, you should declare your intentions now. Otherwise, shut up for once. I, for one, and I am sure there are many others on OPP who are tired of your inane blatherings.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Oh no.

Some of us love to hear him blather and whine like a wuss.

Never try to shut up an i***t.

Let him/her run off at the mouth and reinforce the t***h of their own stupefaction.

John Meoff

Somebody's got to call him and his h**e filled epistles of scorn. He's a typical liberal. He believes hie's better than everyone.

maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Like all liberals, you embrace a ridiculous idea. The t***h is that police have not attacked ANY peaceful protestors. The terrorists, like your favorite boys, a****a, are dispersed throughout the crowd, throwing bottles, rocks, and when possible, using guns. Hundreds of officers gave been injured and more than a few have been k**led.
But the police stand firm until they get the order to shut the violence down. Those that were peaceful made no effort to stop those causing injuries, and so, became a part of the problem. Some may have even joined in due to the effect of mob mentality.
If a crowd is peaceful, they will disperse when ordered to do so. When a curfew starts, they will disperse as law abiding citizens.
We are ALL furious over the death of Floyd. We should absolutely be protesting that act of murder.
But to defund the police is crazy. They can barely, if at all, keep up with crime as it is. Those cities that DO defund the police, will see fewer cops joining the force and significant rises in crime.
The thing that really matters is not that Floyd was black, but that a police officer k**led a man in his custody for no good reason. I don't believe that race had anything to do with it. If you watch the videos, you'll see that the officer was agitated even though Floyd was being cooperative.
Your depiction of the police as Barney Fife is unfair to the men and women who proudly serve the public in a difficult and deadly job.
Why don't you ask about a ride along with your local police for a night. You might see police in a different light after that.

SWMBO

Ah But he IS better. Better at lying, b***hing and causing trouble, while exhibiting his hatred particularly when those he h**es are also Christians.

NPP

John Meoff

My sentiments exactly.

And Kevyn, PeterS and factnotfiction can't say they didn't see these posts. They're listed as on line right now.